A portion of a Mike Cernovich thread collated, and slightly edited.
When Charlottesville happened, I begged guys not to go. They did what young men do – mock me as a weak old guy. I said they’d ruin their lives, and I’ve watched one after another get caught up. Some bad actors, and a lot just showed up not really understanding the implications.
It was like beating my head up against the wall. Warning people that events often sweep people away. “Caught up in the game” is a term you hear in law. Wrong place, wrong time. You’re maybe just curious, but you end up getting swept up in events. And then it’s over for you.
But from the young guy’s perspective, what’s the answer? There’s no escape value. It’s all, “Oh you’re broken because you’re a man. You have toxic masculinity.” The only socially offered fix is for men to become less like men and more like women.
Otherwise, they’re diseased.
I saw political violence coming because I understand men. ANTIFA is largely white men. That’s been proven over and over again. You’re a man, you want to live out Fight Club, and ANTIFA is a way to do this and basically get a free pass.
The counter to that is the Capitol.
Extremist researchers from Muslim world know that you have to offer a moderate solution, an off road. That when you call men terrorists, you drive them into radicalized groups. That research is being tossed out now in the West. Every man who has alternative view is a terrorist.
The incentives are to create more problems, that drives funding into “extremism research.” To raise money, you need more extremists! And yet that’s how you summon more of what you’re supposed to be militating against. The researchers know this, and they don’t care. It’s money.
I’ve said this consistently since at last 2015 – terrorism will become a way of life in the U.S. It’ll be like parts of Middle East. Because everything we learned about Islamic terrorism, that you don’t attack *all* Muslims, that you build up moderates, is being thrown away now.
The biggest mistake a society can make is to confirm the righteousness of zealots. That started with “Punch a Nazi,” where Nazi predictably grew to mean every Trump voter. Capitol rioters watched attacks and riots celebrated by media, and now they feel righteous, too.
The U.S. is poised for a post-911 crackdown on civil liberties – which was a disaster then and will be a bigger disaster now. You cannot enforce authoritarianism against 40% of the country. To do so is to incite a “civil war,” which won’t be what people think.
Capitol LARP’ers watched too much Bravehart and 1776 stuff. They are in an old model of war.
A current model of war will be 4GW, which is the worst possible way of having a war, because it never ends. You end up not with Balkanization, but the cartelization of society.
We are in unbelievably perilous times. Just as people who didn’t see Trump’s rise and dismissed it, because they know it all, think they can just put the boots down the necks of 40% of the country.
I just can’t believe what I am watching, and what will *obviously* happen. It’s not the Q people or fat LARP’ers I worry about. It’s that the oppression becomes so severe that you get what happened in Mexico. A Special Forces Group says, “F*ck this.”
Then what?
There is 0 reason to believe It Can’t Happen Here. We are not special. I won’t go into tactics, not only for reason to not educate bad people, but for others.
If you watched the Capitol storm you no doubt asked, “What if these weren’t fat LARP’ers, lost young men, and Q dummies?” What if this had been *real* guys?
If the attack on the Capitol had been real guys instead of fat middle aged men and Q boomers and aimless young men, it would have been *hundreds* of dead Congress members. That’s how vulnerable an open society is. That’s how fast civil society can disappear.
The Scalise attack, the Capitol attack, all of this shows that – thank God – it’s simply the case that real guys don’t want to do violence and domestic terrorism.
Anyone anything about solutions must start from there. As of now, real guys don’t do that. How do we preserve it?
I don’t have a lot of answers on how to preserve civil society, but I do know one fact. You *do not* preserve society by turning the state against 40% of the country.
This isn’t Soviet Union, Pol Pot’s Cambodia, or Mao’s China.
You should read the whole thing, while you still can.
If you are a man you better stand up and start fighting because if you don’t you will be beaten into the ground and it will be because the government wants to save you. Well the government was, is and continues to be a millstone around our necks and we really have to stop the fucking moronic lock downs , masks and social distancing, none of it can stop or prevent a virus from spreading. We are being lied to by some of the most dangerous people in Canada or the world for that matter. I see surveys of stupid yes, the s word, Canadians, about 64% of them want even harder lockdowns. Jeezus these people are dumb. The idiot Ford now talking about a curfew, w t f is a curfew going to do other than destroy more businesses. Damn it I am so sick of STUPID.
You and me both my BROTHER in arms.
Our PM & EVERY last one of our Premiers has been co-opted in my opinion. They and their supposed Health Officials and cheered on by a TREASONOUS MSM.
One can see the effects…more and more utter drones walking about in the street with fking mask on. SHOWS up the COMPLETE STOOPID in many Canadians
Yep! I also take issue with this guy’s “40%” crap, there aremore than 40% of people supporting Trump in this country. The Left are less than 20%, but because they’re the lapdogs of the DNC/MSM, their voices are amplified.
Cernovich is a self-important idiot who thinks he’s wise. And pretty much an anti-Trumper. He knows nothing about Q but has tapped into all the MSM bullshit about it. Reading his Twitter feed is, more often than not, an exercise in frustration.
VOWG: Saw this on a tee-shirt and immediately thought of you.
I’m going to stop asking,
“How dumb can you get?
People seem to be taking it as a challenge.”
So, OWG … you didn’t read the part where ‘Cerno’ has dismissed Trump supporters as the ‘lower caste’ of Americans. Essentially calling many Trump supporters … the untouchables.
My take on Trump is that you let him leave ignobly. Don’t make him a martyr. Keep him on a leash and dog walk him out. He’ll keep the truly low tier element of society, but he’s lost his smart and competent supporters. He’s neither Hitler nor Caesar. He’s a Karshasian.
I am hardly a “low tier” element of society, and I still endorse Trump and the policies he brought to government. I have a highly respected college degree. I am thoughtful and analytical. And PDJT ushered in a sea change to the Republican Party.
Yet the GOPe are falling all over themselves to distance themselves from “Trump’s base”. The GOPe are FOOLS. Not a single Trump supporter will vote for the GOPe ever again … not even GOPe light. Nope. America has no squishy middle anymore. Swing voters? Puhleeze?! They don’t exist. It’s US and THEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbGyNtKKK5I
Funny how the martyr of this so-called “male” movement was a female vet.
Could there be a better target to get real Trump followers to escalate?
Much of what we saw was a false flag operation in my view, any damage done to the buildings certainly was (just compare to past rallies, where Trump supporters cleaned up after themselves, and BLM/Antifa broke windows to places they had no intention of going).
Now that official politics is over and the Republicans can’t win again, we’ll see a lot more of this stuff in the future.
https://www.takimag.com/article/from-reformers-to-rebels/
Zman is at times brilliant. Not sure why he’s not linked more at many conservative sites like this one. Could he it be he’s be tarred as a “racist”? I don’t always care for his comment section though, it’s full of predictable Internet tough guys.
Funny that you liked to him. Zman often mocks Cernovich.
Taki’s Mag used to be good, then they stopped allowing comments and became pointless. Haven’t been there since.
Stupidest article I have ever read
Please explain.
It wasn’t a riot, Mr. Galt sir. It was a guided tour given to unarmed, non-militant protesters. Old fat guys waving flags, in other words. Go watch the video of Capitol Police pulling aside barriers and leading orderly lines of protesters, and start thinking about what you’re watching.
This is serious schlitz here. Engage brain and don’t just shout slogans. There’s useful idiots on both sides of the Left/Right divide.
Just because no one agrees with you, that doesn’t make you a visionary. Just because no one understands you, that doesn’t make you an artist.
How long before this new “anti-terrorism” law they are planning effectively does away with anonymous web comments?
Cerno is a moron.
The reason the “riot” or “attack” happened is because Normie can’t lay on the couch with a beer and potato chips anymore. Lefty has either sold his job abroad or replaced him with a vibrant. Sportzball is now a human flea circus where the owners and players hate Normie and make no secret of it. Normie’s wife is a psychotic witch on anti-depressants, and his kids have been indoctrinated to the point of imbecility by the public schools. Hollywood is a moral, intellectual and ethical wasteland. And Normie is closed up in the middle of it with no place to go. Go on OyTube and look at the mainstream media channels. CBC is backing The Narrative all the way, and has had to disable the comments because of all the backlash. The downvotes tell the story for those guys.
These guys are scared spitless. Cerno should shut the hell up and let Normie do his thing. Sitting there and taking it doesn’t work anymore.
Agree that Normie America seems to have finally woken up and smelled the coffee.
Well, here we are. Normie just discovered his Twitter account is gone, Farcebook is gone, his fricking job is gone, the cops are going to shoot him if he shows up on the street without a facemask, and he’s been disenfranchised by corrupt elections. Hooray. Way to go Normies.
Now the Normies have to figure out what to do about it. Going to be a lot of flailing and stupid, stupid behavior. Because Normies are stupid.
Mr. Normie Canada is still asleep, by the way. Lockdowns and arrests of people -in their homes- for “health regulations” have not moved the needle. Normie Canada is just so much fatter, happier and dumber than his fat dumb American counterpart.
But they will, eventually, figure it out. Maybe another five years? Depends how sloppy the Liberals get.
Dude. You think these comments are anonymous? From the government? Come on.
“This isn’t Pol Pot’s Cambodia”.
I fear it is. This is likely exactly what happened in Pol Pot’s Cambodia. The left is behaving in exactly the same way they did there and the end result will be bloodshed.
Well, yes, I’ve been wondering what the “real guys” are going to do for a while now. It won’t be pretty. The only hope and it’s a long shot is for an American Pinochet. That won’t be pretty either.
And please stop linking to Twatter.
I have been warning any leftists I knew for a whole decade that continuing to push in this direction, that it would end up in an ugly combi ation of Mexico and Lebanon. I have been dismissed as “threatening war”. Huh?
If you study history, politics, economics and warfare, long enough, and WITHOUT seeing everything through CRT’s warped lens, let’s just say things start to “add up”.
North America will become Mexico and Lebanon now. And Mexico is just Lebanon with the army and police getting involved.
Hey, both Lebanon and Mexico still have a stock market. Most lefties would never want to live there, though.
1773 – Griffin’s Wharf
Jeb: ” Hey Amiel, we’re throwing tea in the harbor tonight, you in?”
Amiel: ” No thanks Jeb I’ll sit this one out – I understand Britain’s ‘Stamp Act’ is obscenely oppressive, but I have daughters and I don’t want them to be embarrassed about me later on in life “
Good grief.
+++burton.
One assumes Amiel soon moved to Canada, where his progeny remain on bended knee today.
Sooner or later, all the coward genes emigrated to Canada it appears.
Even the lesser known Annapolis Tea Party contributed to the Canadian obeisance way.
“Despite the partners’ efforts to quell the outrage, their positions as British loyalists were solidified after these events. Stewart was forced to flee Annapolis and his property seized. Eventually, he escaped to Nova Scotia. “
One assumes Amiel soon moved to Canada, where his progeny remain on bended knee today. Sooner or later, all the coward genes emigrated to Canada it appears.
And what of the progeny of those brave Americans of the 1770s? They just finished electing the ridiculous Joe Biden by a large majority. Some progeny! What happened to those brave genes? More like stupid genes. They seem determined to drive their nation off a cliff.
Conversely, the majority of them are either blissfully ignorant, brainwashed or indifferent that Biden’s party fraudulently and blatantly stole the election right under their noses. Voting by mail, no voter ID required, etc. LOL
Again, some progeny! They’re pretty complacent when you consider their nation is about to be driven off a cliff.
“Sooner or later, all the coward genes emigrated to Canada it appears.”
Where their progeny had their own beachhead called Juno on D-Day, closest to the German reinforcements and Panzer divisions.
And these progeny made 4 times the progress inland against the German defenders that the British and American military made.
Here’s another way to read this same thread: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1348459430937915392.html
The entire political class, corporate class, DOJ, FBI CIA etc are wholly and completely corrupt. This stolen election – or coup – did not occur because the left had better ideas and better solutions, or that Trump was in any way a dictator.
This occurred because the above political class (and many in the corportate class) were at best going to jail for the rest of their lives – this was all about a very small but powerful group of people who in an effort to save their own corrupt hides, destoryed America as founded.
They all know that military intervention is the only thing that is likely to save it, hence their and the medias abject shock and horror should anyone suggest that. That narrative must be held as radical.
ITs being sold as “if we let the military decide elections, the Rebublic is finished. We cant go there”
How fundamentally ignorant and/or stupid do you need to be to buy into the above excuse?
The Republic as founded is already lost and will be officially on Jan 20th.
No one is suggesting that the military come in and remove a duly elected president from power. What would need to occur is the military come in and seize the voting machines and ballots and have them counted in full public view.
And when the fraud discovered and verified, then those that perpetrated is will start to sing.
IF Trump does not execute his EO, America and the free world is finished – there will be no free land to flee to, and I have no doubt that Trump his family will end up in prison (or dead).
Who is going to say no to the insane left when they control all the levers of power, investigation, intelligence and justice?
China arguably now runs America. There is no longer any defence against communism.
Spot on, Ward.
Agreed comrade.
+1
Both Hungary and Poland are already freer for conservatives than any “Western” nation. And if you are white, Christian and prepared to learn Russian, Putin will welcome you – Russia badly needs good, decent, nose-to-the-grindstone hard working people with families to keep her population up. And just don’t eff eith Putin’s business interests (easy to do) and he will not only leave you alone, he’ll help you get started.
You are going to live under authoritarian rule in Russia. In the West you will soon live under totalitarian rule. In the West, though, the totalitarians wish to enslave and exploit you, in order to rule in their interests, and in the interests of their constituents who hate your guts for being white, successful, and family-oreinted.
In Russia, the government rules more often in YOUR interests, and almost never in BLM’s interest. Big difference.
I think the delicious irony and hilarity of the Dems building a wall around America to stop conservatives fleeing to Russia would be priceless!
Problem with the article is in the numbers. 40% of the population is the wrong number for Trump followers and anyone that thinks that is living in Disneyland. Biden does not have a 60% following of the population. The numbers are reversed, anyone that followed the run up to the election is well aware of this. The problem at hand is that 40% of the population believe that they have the moral superiority to dictate to the other 60% because they believe their own lies that they won the election. If they think that things are going to quieten down as they start arresting protesters, compiling lists, eliminating rights, and other programs that they have been threatening then they may be in for a very, very, rude awakening. Curtailing communications is the boil on a very large abscess and when that was lanced over the weekend the release of puss will infect a lot more than can be imagined.
I agree with your math. I didn’t prior to the election … but the returns (before the Deep State and Tech operatives took over) convinced me otherwise. Trump increased his voters (that were counted) by 10M … that suggests for closer to 60% of America liked where Trump took America.
The 40% is those who have already agreed in polls that they think the election was stolen (39% was the last one I heard).
Biden’s strong support is probably 25%. That leaves roughly a third of the populace as undecided. This 35% are the ones who are going to see the one party techno-state over-reaching this week, and go “what on earth is happening here?” (more likely the more vulgar version, wtf, but my kids might read this).
I suspect that in a week’s time if will be closer to 60% to 30% (Trump first, Dems last, uncommitted numbers shrinking rapidly).
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
First, there is the knowledge now of what could be coming (thank you, Aleksandr).
Second, there is the 2nd (amendment). Russia was already disarmed.
Alex Jones said the guy that ordered the DC Police to stand down while the Capitol was occupied – wait – here it is – committed Arkancide.
“They” are coming for your guns and they are coming for your necks. Your families will be the new Uyghurs.
The guy did commit Arkancide. New Uyghurs? Maybe?
HaH,rereading Roger Stones, the man who killed Kennedy, the voting theft is old news, just the scale has in creased
We are aware. The brazenness means that now it’s time for open in your face tyranny. They no longer care if it’s out in the open. That means things are going to get violent.
As we speak a coup d’etat may be happening. A Trump address has been axed. They really want the guy gone. Biden has something serious to hide. Pence is a disgraceful piece of shit.
Pence is finished. And that comes from me … a faithful Christian who admired Pence’s unabashed faithfulness … yet he just fell prey to The Evil One … who promised him a continuing career and admiration if he … “behaved reasonably”.
What Pence did was to make a deal with the political Sanhedrin… to turn over the most transformational man in American politics … to the mob. To the Deep State mob.
So the Dems are hoping for Pence to play the role of Judas….
scar, re: Pence.
I can recall seeing a photo of Trump with Pence above and behind.
The look on his face was an early tell for me. Semi-demi sneer.
EXACTLY same deal with a Paul Ryan and Trump photo.
And speaking of Ryan, I will never forget his debate with Biden whose face and total body language expressed unfathomable contempt and hatred for Ryan. I also think Biden was drunk, tho I don’t recall anyone else making that speculation.
“If the attack on the Capitol had been real guys instead of fat middle aged men and Q boomers and aimless young men, it would have been *hundreds* of dead Congress members.”
And the Provisional Government of the United States would be hard at work now restoring the republic.
Hahahaha … made me laugh
Perhaps I am just dull, but I have no idea what is being said, as I have no clue as to the meaning of such terms such as LARP’ers, escape value, Q dummies and 4GW. It is almost as bad for me as trying to get meaning from twitter posts.
LARPer = Live Action RolePlayer; literally, somebody who dresses up in fake-medieval costume to wave a wooden sword around with other similar oddballs. In this context, somebody who thinks methods used in historical events are applicable to the present day situation.
Q dummies = people who follow QAnon. Q is somebody who posts extremely vague and elliptical messages to 4chan, claiming to be someone deep within the government and with the highest possible level of security clearance, and claims to be revealing the existence of an ongoing secret shadow war between factions within the government, with Trump prophesied to win it by a worldwide wave of mass arrests (referred to as “the Storm”) of all high-level politicians and bureaucrats for Satanic rituals involving raping and murdering children. Q’s past predictions, when compared to actual events, are of debatable accuracy, and frequently worded in such a manner as to be easily interpreted to mean anything you want them to mean.
4GW = Fourth Generation Warfare, a term popularized by a military author whose name I can’t recall right now but I’m sure doing a search on the term will pull it up. The concept basically is that the existence of information networks everywhere and their effect on society has fundamentally changed the nature of warfare from the WW2 style which he terms Third Generation. Specifically what 4GW would involve in a positive sense is not something I’ve ever seen a clear and coherent answer to, and whether 4GW proponents actually understand or have any clear concept of what it is they’re advocating is also debatable.
Thank you.
Incel: young men who are involuntarily celibate … such creeps; physically and emotionally as to repel women. These men will never breed. Never have a family to care for … and hence become jaded with the world and frustrated. Plenty of this type in ANTIFA, BLM, and Q groups. Their LARPing may soon include LIVE ammo.
Thanks Rollory, I too, needed that enlightenment. There are so many references to obscure titles such as just described, I just can’t keep up. I’m still unsure of many.
So when I read something, I just get a whooshing sound flying over my head, I sometimes wonder if I’m ignorant and uneducated, or if I narrowly missed a bullet flying over my head.
Acronym Finder –
https://www.acronymfinder.com
Slang Dictionary –
http://onlineslangdictionary.com
Rollory’s description of Q shows he knows very little about it and has never bothered to look at the proofs.
Q dummy detected.
I spent several months looking into it. My summary is the result of that investigation. But don’t take my word for it: give us a list of all predictions Q made in a given time period, along with what subsequent real world events correspond to them.
You didn’t do that or anything like it, because you either can’t, or really don’t want to because you know what it will show.
“….terrorism will become a way of life in the U.S. It’ll be like parts of Middle East.”
Indeed, allot like a hybrid Mexico, with major gangs controlling areas while the defunded police take on more and more bribes to look the other way, intermixed with very pissed off pools of so called “patriots” akin to Timothy McVeigh, with the means and knowledge to strike out against those grievances.
Then society will become a sort of South Africa before the end of Apartheid, everything revolving around “security”. Militarized checkpoints, gated/ fenced with barbwire communities with guards, security convoys for travel.
The Hollywood elites, along with any of the western world elites will do just fine in their private retreats, armed escorts and secure habitations………everyone else well, oh well.
South Africa before the end of apartheid was never like that. That has occurred primarily AFTER apartheid, as influx controls in cities were lifted, and millions of illiterate peasants stormed in demanding money, booze and leisure, and a cushy job.
At the end of apartheid (effectively around 1989-1990) it was incredibly peaceful and relaxed throughout most of the country. The State of Emergency affected a few specific areas, where the successors-to-be were settling ancient tribal scores before the final whistle blew.
There were mass civil disobedience actions (flooding “white” beaches with black folks in defiance of race-laws) but this was mostly ‘good-natured’ and friendly at the time, in large swathes of the country. The police and army were always a very complex organisation (like the KGB) riven with factions and cliques, some of whom were not on board with the new way).
1993-1994 things got bad, especially in Natal. But apartheid by then was all but buried. Attitudes persisted, but the state was only arresting people or shooting people for openly shooting or throwing petrol.
bombs.
In 1989-1990, road trips in South Africa were mega awesome, especially on the quiet, rural roads in black areas! No traffic, friendly people, cheap beer, contrband smokes basically for free. Hot chicks in thongs everywhere.
Good times.
1994 things turned sour for a year.
Never saw a checkpoint on my holidays there – except in certain areas where guerillas had been.
our progressive comrades,in whatever guise,are stupid.
They confuse a verbal warning for the coming cull.
It is not Left,Right nor Elites,as much as it is Parasites versus Host.
For the obvious is always overlooked.
The Host does not need the parasite,in fact the host blooms with health when parasites are removed.
The parasite desperately needs the host not to notice them.
Well all across the welfare state,the parasites have swelled and are feeling so empowered,that they feel they can dictate to the host.
The terror from the professional parasites,is their realization that the host sees them.
Sees them for true.
The massive surge of votes for Trumps second term,has terrified the vote thieves.
Also known as oxygen thieves.
In these terms Covid,aka the Wuhan Flu,or the Chinese/Democrat biological attack,was a massive mistake.