We definitely do not want to go back to the fires during the pre-industrial climate of 150-years ago. America burned continuously, set by settlers, farmers, and indigenous population.
Excellent essay on history of fires: https://t.co/0L0grv708k
1880 Census of Fire pic.twitter.com/a6EeHqpB1p
— Ryan Maue (@RyanMaue) June 8, 2023
Why can’t modern journalism convince the public that every fire season is worse than the last? What are they getting wrong?
https://twitter.com/MaximeBernier/status/1666796282982146049
Fires are not worse in Alberta. In our biggest disaster the effing moron Red Rachel cancelled all the water bomber contracts a couple days before Fort McMurray burned. I’m guessing the tough contract negotiations with those evil capitalists never worked out too well. Alberta’s worst fire was back in the 1940s.
If one removes the fires caused by far-left imbeciles/traitors in gov’t around the world who stopped preventative fire measures, and then also remove those caused by arson, I imagine the fire frequency, acreage, and damage would be reduced to near all-time lows.
But that kind of news doesn’t instill fear and they need us afraid to be able to strip away more of our rights for the illusion of safety. If they don’t have ‘record’ numbers of fires of increasing intensity every year then that’s one less thing that they can blame on climate change and therefore they can’t fleece us for as much as they could.
As always, I stop reading at the word “model”, unless its about bikinis or something important like that.
Basically, the low information types are being fed the Very Sciencey™ “our models say it will be hotter and drier, forever”, because those feeding them this tripe know they’ll forget about the “our models say it will be hotter and drier forever” they gave them when it was flooding just a few months ago.
If you look at graph of forest fires in Canada, you’ll notice that 2020 was very, very low…when the CO2 levels were approximately the same as this year. How could Climate Change be the only reason for the fires this year? Did Climate Change fires take a 2020 pause? Or is the 2023 fire season a combo of cyclical patterns in the ocean influencing weather and arson?
Graph of Canadian fires
https://twitter.com/Thegreyweb/status/1666836960332369921/photo/1
LC, if you calculate the trend line on the area burned, it’s down a bit. The frequency is obviously down.
Another thing that has declined is the number of lightning strikes.
About 50% of Canadian fires are started by man, including the Fort McMurray biggie. Apparently climate change makes them do it!
Yeah, the cherry picking of which years are evidence of climate change, despite the CO2 concentration being almost identical, to create a scary narrative is so obvious that it’s embarrassing. I guess blatant lying, exaggerating and arson are indeed forms of man-made climate change…just not in the way politicians want us to beleive.
I wonder if there’s a correlation between less smoking and a decline in fires. A few decades ago it wasn’t unusual to see people toss still hot cigarette out their vehicle window. Add in camping that was more roughing it (fire pit cooking) instead of glamping with huge trailers with indoor ranges or microwaves. Carelessness probably has some affect on the number of fires.
Eco-terrorism is on the rise. If the climate won’t co-operate and kill us already, we’ll give it a push. If you are willing to deface a Van Gogh, what’s a little forest fire.
Thomas’
My thoughts also let’s BRING, take 6 million unvetted “Workers” into Trudy’s Canadian wonderland climate;
Wilderness See how many Arsonist Terrorist can set 30 fires before Christmas?
All this being said, the path of the smoke of the Canadian fires is quite amazing. Yesterday, for example, you could smell it and visibility here was severely hampered….and I’m down in the Mid-Atlantic states of the US.
Shouldn’t Trudeau be offering me some carbon money or something for dealing with it?
I have a relative in Denver CO. That was inundated with smoke from the Alberta Wildfires, mention the same thing to me, “Where are our Carbon Credits for dealing with all your smoke?!”
Also, the chicanery in the Ft. McMurray fires was quite coincidental and suspect.
People caught intentionally setting destructive fires, (ie arson or politically driven arson) should be dealt with severely, preferably by the people affected by said arson..
With a charge of pre-meditated murder for each person who dies in the fires they set and any groups that they belong get to pay the bill for fighting the fire.
To be pedantic, the smoke is unburnt carbon, not CO2 and its only temporary climatic effect is as an aerosol.
Canadian National Fire Database (CNFDB) shows that the number of fires and the area burned have declined since 1980.
https://cwfis.cfs.nrcan.gc.ca/ha/nfdb
The press is making a big deal out of this season. It’s all about global warming!
We didn’t hear a peep in 2020 when the fires were down a spectacular 92% below a ten year average.
And how many of them will be found to be caused by econuts?
Live long enough you will see a few fires, from the Rockies to the Cape Breton Highlands. I am 100% positive that today’s people are losing their tiny minds.
“I am 100% positive that today’s people are losing their tiny minds.”
Minds are not considered private property in Canada.
Trudeau is getting ripped on twitter for that lie.
But, but, but … it’s poor forestry management. If only we’d listened to the storytelling of our native peoples … we’d have let them set brush fires as they’ve always set to clear the scrub and brush fuel out of the forest. Ohhhhhh mommmaaaaa … the great turtle has spoken
Seems to me arsonists in Alberta aren’t thinking it through. This is the province of ‘shoot, shovel and shutup’ But I guess if you are an eco commie deep thoughts aren’t your thing.
Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. has just published a comprehensive study:
“In short, the IPCC does not provide a basis for strong claims of detection or attribution of “fire weather” to climate change. The IPCC is silent on trends in fire numbers and area burned. These conclusions are contrary to almost all media reporting.”
One large volcano eruption put out more.. Awww never mind :(..
May 19th, 1780 is remembered as the “Dark Day” in New England and parts of NY, NJ. Observers reported it was so dark at mid-day that birds began to roost and sing evening songs, and people needed to light candles in their houses to see. Despite a full moon, the night remained unusually dark and the condition only eased during the next day. It is believed that forest fires in eastern Canada and possibly upstate NY, Vermont were responsible. 1780 also had a very severe hurricane season in the Caribbean, about 25,000 people were killed in a number of strong hurricanes.
You won’t hear about this on the news, not very narrative friendly.
Forest fires are out of control and something must be done. There was a fire in New Brunswick that consumed 16,000 sq. km. of forest and killed more than 160 people. There was another in northern Ontario that covered 2,000 sq. km. and killed 223 people.
BTW – the first occurred in 1825 in the Miramichi area (the 1825 Miramichi Fire) and the second in 1916 (the Great Matheson Fire). As far as I know these are the worst worst fires in Canadian history with respect to loss of life and the Miramichi the largest in area.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1825_Miramichi_fire
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matheson_Fire
Carbon taxes inflate the cost of fire-fighting.
The fire fighters must wait until their electric vehicles are charged up….not sure what they are doing about water bombers.