22 Replies to “Hong Kong”

  1. Well our “Dear Leader, admires the Communist dicatatorship” notwithstanding that the mainland Communist party will still put a bullet in your head. Which should tell you a lot about our leading “Canucklehead”…

    The Hong Kong residents are not so enthusiastic about being decamped from Hong Kong for the environs amongst the gulags. And we seriously need to wonder why…? Maybe the Hong Kong residents have better survival skills than “True-Dope-ia”.

    Cheers

    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

  3. ABC Overnight News hasn’t mentioned Hong Kong.

    CBS has mentioned the protests and how violence has broken out. They showed the scenes from the subway system above, and then the police gassing peoplein the streets without any context, much less condemnation of the Communist Chinese Government.

  4. Those who are protesting in Hong Kong are ignoring history. When the party gets tired of their actions, the army will move in and kill anyone who does not follow their communist dictates. History folks and the actions of communist dictators, what do you think?

    1. OWG

      Yep….I recall quite clearly.
      Tianamen Square – vividly in fact.

      The “Peoples Party” will soon tire of the goings on, remove every reporter in sight, shut down local internet, and literally eliminate any opposition.

      Who’s gonna stop them..?? the Brits.? Yea, as if.

      2. They’ll play nice, sorta, until a “deal” is signed with the Trumpster. Then the gloves come off.

    2. absolutely correct owg. the real story? the protests are a PERFECT excuse for tanks in sham shu po, mong kok, shim tsa shui etc.
      (I was in HK in 1989 and 2005). perfect excuse according to the very worst of bloody history of chirese communism.
      10s of millions of *their own citizens* dead to create and maintain their variation of marxism.
      and 10s of million more to come; aka given enough time ANYTHING can happen.

      p.s., you aint seen high level corruption til youve seen chirese communist corruption.

  5. Right.

    The report that its the Triad dressed in white t-shirts attacking protesters must accept that organized crime is willing to do its enforcement on behalf of the Chicoms in broad daylight.
    One – you then have to accept that the triad is willing to do this and be identified.
    Two – that they somehow have a vested interest in having the Chicoms complete control of Hongkong and thus the eventual elimination of the Triad by lead poisoning.
    Three – that the media will report that its the Triad attacking the protesters without question.

    Really?
    The same media that reported she was going to win in 2016?

    1. Triads?? I think the deal when Hong Kong reverted was that the Triads be gone…or die. Those aren’t Triads in white shirts, but Chicoms with no bag limits. PLA. People’s Liberation Army.
      The Triads moved to western US and Vancouver, years ago to carry out trade on behalf of the stay at homes. Where do you think the Fentanyl and Carfentanyl come from?

  6. ‘Tis true that if most “Zimbabweans” had their way, the Rhodesian Front would be back in power in Salisbury, with all forgiven. The real question is what any white man in his right mind would gain from going back there.

    We’ve given out quite enough gifts that weren’t appreciated to learn that making things easier for our competitors for dominion of the planet was never going to make them our friends.

    Britain left Hong Kong because there was no way to stop communist China from taking Hong Kong back by force, short of defeating and conquering communist China in a real war—a goal incompatible with the globalist plan of making China the world’s factory at the expense of the western proletariat, who had made clear their refusal to accept enslavement under a socialist economic system.

    Hong Kong is as beyond help as Rhodesia. The priority now should be stopping our own elites from offering up north America and Europe to the dragon on a silver platter—and preparing for the war that will determine whether the West will endure or be replaced by something more to the taste of Oriental fetishists like John McCallum and Jack Layton.

    Western victory in that war, like it or not, will require the destruction of Hong Kong as we know it today, along with all of the cities of industrialized China.

  8. Despite living under a repressive totalitarian state, the Hong Kongers have the balls to openly protest. Pity there wasn’t more of that DNA in Canada.

  9. Michael Yon on Facebook this morning:

    “Hong Kong: This is going to get very serious
    I am one of the most experienced conflict correspondents alive. I am saying with high certainty that Hong Kong is a key battlefield with Communist China, and this will get bloody serious. This is still in the warm up stage.
    All my long term readers know that when I say “mark my word,” you can safely bet your money.
    This is just the beginning.
    Important: Anyone who says this is about the Extradition Bill should be ignored. This is NOT about the Extradition Bill, despite thousands of signs saying this at the protests I am at.
    Let’s put this in American terms. Remember the massive and bloody riot after the Rodney King case in Los Angeles?
    ‘Analysts’ who say that was about a court verdict should be ignored. The causes of the bloody rampage had little to do with the verdict other than that was a specific trigger.
    Any flaming match will set a dry forest ablaze, and we don’t name matches. The rampage was based on historical and cultural issues. That was and is the dry forest.
    Similarly with the information war coming from China and Korea heavily targeting Japan. (Especially Japan — but America is also heavily targeted and is the ultimate target. China is also targeting Korea and the Koreans are mostly blind to this.)
    We will see increasing sparks of violence against Japanese. Mark my word. And then someone will blame this or that specific match that starts the fire. Meanwhile, China continues with a giant blow-drier prepping a giant forest to burn. Waiting for that match.
    The conflict in Hong Kong is not about the Extradition Bill — and now many other issues are piling up almost weekly. The issue is that Communist China is trying to swallow and digest Hong Kongers who know the taste of freedom.
    Humans are far more likely to fight to keep something they have than to fight for something they do not have. Mainland Chinese as a group never in their lives have tasted freedom. The communist cowboys in Beijing ride their broken slave horses daily and the broken horses just stare at the ground and go where they are told.
    The British helped Hong Kongers taste freedom, and rule of law, and Hong Kongers love their freedom and legitimate judicial system. They will fight. The real fight is beginning.
    Honk Kong is a key battle ground in a much larger war. Taiwan and others are watching.”

    Video of the white shirts from mainland China, “doing their job” :

    https://www.scmp.com/video/hong-kong/3019535/rod-wielding-mob-dressed-white-storms-hong-kongs-yuen-long-mtr-station?

  11. This has nothing to do with communism (China hasn’t been “communist” in years; it’s a corporate state) and everything to do with the “One China” principle. Beijing will not tolerate for long any attempt by the people of Hong Kong to disassociate themselves from this principle.

    I have no doubt that there are contingency plans at the defence ministry in Beijing for just this sort of eventuality; China might not want to upset the economic applecart in Hong Kong but, in the final analysis, will not put up with any move in Hong Kong to slip away on its own path.

    Alas, since HM Government quite literally sailed off into the sunset in 1997, the people of Hong Kong have really been left to their own devices by the West.

    1. actually, the ship left HK harbour around 1995 when mags thatcher jumped the gun and handed over EVERYTHING to ‘dung shoe ping’.
      with a smug look on her face.
      hero of CONservatists to this day.

      I remember all the clucking about ‘democracy’ on july 1,1997, thinking, wtf? HK NEVER had ‘democracy’, the brit royals would NOT allow it, it was just too juicy to run things out of the governor’s mansion. too bad the royalists hadnt used oh, say, up to 100 YEARS to REALLY establish some ‘democrapcy’ in the colony.
      pip pip, harumph harumph bloody good shew lord fauntleroy, pip pip.

  12. First, and just to get it out of the way, “A Canadian”, please do not comment on a subject on which you know nothing.

    Okay, on to the subject.

    First, people in Hong Kong always preferred British rule rather than Chicom rule. In 1949, the population of Hong Kong at least quintupled. The Nationalist Chinese government and British had allowed free travel between China and Hong Kong. With the imminent fall of China to the Chicom millions availed themselves of that freedom and flooded Hong Kong. All these people voted with their feet. My family was among them. After taking over China, the Chicom built a Berlin Wall around Hong Kong, preventing those in East Berlin, er China, from going to West Berlin, er Hong Kong. Of course, almost no one wanted to go the other way. The only exception I could think of is when the Chicom recalled a reporter on one of the Hong Kong Communist newspapers to Beijing for remedial indoctrination. More often than not, this reporter would simply walk across the street to an anti-communist paper and “Opted for freedom.” This brings up the second point.

    Second, yes as a colony, there was little political freedom in Hong Kong. The Governor General was appointed by the Crown. (But then, so is Canada. 🙂 Hong Kong was run by British civil servants. The elected town councils took care of trivial matters, not anything to do with policy. However, there was a lot of personal freedom, in terms of rights such as those delineated in our Bill of Rights. Political newspapers flourished in both English and Chinese. There must be at least twenty of them with every political shade. There were “rightist” Communist papers and “leftist” Communist papers. Newspapers pro and anti Taiwan, and Britain. The only ordinary people I was aware of who feared the police were unlicensed hawkers (street vendors). Anyone could get a license, but most opt not to spend the money. The wares were in a display case, easily closed and carried when they heard the police whistle. (Thinking back, that may be part of the game. The whistles actually gave them warning.) Otherwise, life was quite uneventful. There wasn’t any income tax. The British were quite content in making the money off Hong Kong as a free port.

    The rule by the British was so “enlightened” Hong Kong even had rent control, which to me seemed to favor the Chinese multitude rather than the owners, some of whom British. However, they did not have laws against sub-leasing, and it was the people who held leases who got rich from the massive emigration. They rented out every bedroom to a different family, and even built bunk beds in the hallways. (So now it’s happening in SF and LA). The British built resettlement villages, but could not keep up with the influx. The immigrants preferred those conditions rather than living under the Chicom. Sentiments ran so strong against the Chicom that flag watching was no contest. Oct 1 is the National Day for the Chicom, and Oct 10 is the National Day for the Nationalists. And while I was there, the flags on Oct 10 overwhelmed those on Oct 1. One year, a whole village riots when the British official (of Chinese ethnicity) raised the Chicom flag. The villagers attacked the office, and tore down the offending flag. The British’s verdict? The whole village was put on “village arrest.”

    With the pressure of such influx overwhelming the infrastructure, the British decided to upgrade the whole thing. By steps, they built the tunnel between Hong Kong and Kowloon, reducing a trip of hours by ferry to mere minutes. They built a beautiful subway system (and kept adding to it). A resident on the island can now have the famous seafood for lunch in Yuen Long. They built the modern airport on Lan Tau island and connected it via subway to the rest of the system, with special trains going to downtown locations in Kowloon and Hong Kong. This required building a long suspension bridge and other tunnels. They did this even when they knew they won’t enjoy the completion of the airport.

    Unfortunately, the treaty that Britain signed with China in 1898 only leased the New Territories (which makes up the great majority of the land and over half of the population) for 99 years. What belonged to the British was Hong Kong Island and a small sliver of a peninsula called Kowloon. The boundary between ceded and leased territories is a street aptly called Boundary Street, but it sits now in the middle of the Kowloon urban area. In short, the ceded territory alone is not feasible, without even the possibility of a modern airport. (Lan Tau island being in the NT.) The British did what it could and had the Chicom agree to a different administrative district for Hong Kong with its own laws. Note that even then, a non-binding (alas) plebiscite shows the overwhelming majority favored retaining the status quo as a British Crown Colony.

    Two things reveal what the Chicom really thinks of the people who live in Hong Kong. The first is the turnover ceremony conducted in Hong Kong, entirely in English and Mandarin. Those may be familiar to a small fraction of the inhabitants, but the majority only spoke Cantonese. The second is the Chicom, instead of tearing down the Berlin wall, strenghthened it instead, on both sides of the border, whereas the British never bothered to put up a barrier.

    At first the Chicom wanted to supercede Hong Kong, with special economic zones, noticeably Shanghai and Shenzhen, right across the Berlin Wall. Yes, Shenzhen did prosper, but not nearly as much as Hong Kong, which became one of the richest political entities in terms of per capita GDP. I think that was when the Chicom realized that it couldn’t so easily defeat Hong Kong economically, and so is seeking to coopt it politically, to eventually deny it of the special administrative district status.

    If the UN were worth anything at all, they would hold a plebiscite to make Hong Kong a UN Protectorate. There are precedents. But of course the UN is worthless. And I fear for the future of Hong Kong.

    1. Good Explanation… In 1995 NBC built a CNBC business channel in Hong Kong (expecting it to become an Asian/Oriental point of Contact) but by 1998 it became obviously it was not to be, the whole facility was moved to Singapore.. Sorry to see Hong Kong so buggered up….Man the Humidity in Hong Kong was brutal….

  14. 1. China is rocketing down a demographic mineshaft. As it rapidly ages it will fade economically and militarily- just as japan has.

    2. Growth in China is the slowest it’s been since 1992. Really bad news for a regime that has essentially bought domestic peace with growth.

    3. China is not immune to the impact of the Internet on activating the hinterland populace and enabling it coordinate

    4. Nor are the Chinese ignorant of the need for the country to reduce corruption and provide a stable regulatory regime for intellectual property if they are to continue to grow.

    5. BTW THE greatest existential threat to the American economy is a peaceful and cooperative China. It would cause a run in the dollar like nothing before.

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