20 Replies to ““Never, Never Mess With Our Friend, Mark Steyn””

  1. Cross-posted from Western Standard:
    ‘Just in case readers of HH’s brilliant evisceration don’t know, the “Venona Files” were decrypts by US and British SIGINT agencies of Soviet diplomatic and intelligence messages. The first important spy revealed by them was Donald Maclean; many Soviet atom bomb spies, including the Rosenbergs, were also identified with the help of Venona. See:
    http://www.nsa.gov/publications/publi00039.cfm
    FBI Special Agent, who worked on VENONA, published an excellent book “The FBI – KGB War: A Special Agent�s Story”. See:
    http://www.zpub.com/notes/lamphere.html
    Mark
    Ottawa’

  2. I like this exchange. What a sly sense of humour.
    HH: And is Hamas a good or bad organization?
    DP: Neutral to bad.
    HH: Neutral to bad. How about Hezbollah?
    DP: Bad.
    HH: Really bad? Or just okay bad? Sort of like the Cubs?
    DP: I’m not going to draw comparisons between Hezbollah and the Cubs. They are worse than the Cubs.

  3. Wasn’t that whole thing just rich? It was like a cat playing with a mouse.
    And thanks for the links about the Venona Files, I had no idea what they were.

  4. Snowbunnie: Glad to help. Venona was absolutely critical in understanding the vast extent and penetration of Soviet intelligence. In one sense it is lucky Venona was as secret as it was. Had the full truth been known widely McCarthy might never have been brought down. In many ways he was right, but for the wrong reasons–and he was a terrible leader of any sort. In any event our intelligence/security people knew most of the truth through Venona, and other sources.
    Mark
    Ottawa

  5. That was an entertaining interview. But I thought the sportswriter, who was admittedly playing out iof his own league held his own pretty well. A lot of commentators on the left with better credentials than this guy would not have held up so well.

  6. Well, if you mean by “holding his own”, that he came across as a “hopelessly misinformed idiot being beaten rhetorically and intellectually about the face and neck”, then your point is well made.

  7. I love Steyn and like this blog but I too thought the sportscaster was very reasonable and generally fair.
    I agree with him , generally, on Iraq. In my view it should have been Taliban/AQ first, then Saudi’s, then Iran.
    cheers
    GJ

  8. I love Steyn and like this blog but I too thought the sportscaster was very reasonable and generally fair.
    I agree with him , generally, on Iraq. In my view it should have been Taliban/AQ first, then Saudi’s, then Iran.
    cheers
    GJ

  9. HH was definitely playing with him, but reading through the whole thing, I was waiting for him to finally rip the guy’s arguments apart…
    just seemed like there was no money shot.

  10. The guy didn’t have any arguments! He had a quotes from a script taken from Democratic Underground…

  11. Oh I agree the sportswriter got pushed around pretty good. i just that that for a sportswriter, he stated his case more coherently than a lot of actual pundits from the left who do it for a living.

  12. Ah yes, all that heartfelt guff about the Rosenbergs we used to have to put up with from the lefties: they were “victims.”
    VENONA SIGINT on the Rosenbergs could not be released to the public for self-evident reasons.
    But when the wall came crashing down, and the USSR crumbled away, the KGB files were suddenly available to the world.
    And lo, the Rosenbergs really were Commie spies after all…

  13. The issue is now too politicized to get any sense of reality from the situation at Gitmo. I just hope there is ENOUGH torture to get the info we need to kill more of these animals. Frankly the longer they keep these murdering swine behind bars the more emotional turmoil the feelies and moonbats are put through….I’m lovin’ it!… like torturing stateside moonbats seems to the only side effect of keeping war criminals and blood soaked Jihadi sociopaths locked up…….However, I do wonder if they are ket too long…dispatching them after a military tibunal seems like the route to go…..If I was an american tax poayer I wouldn’t want these murderers kept in such comfort on my dime when a rope and burial in a hog skin is much more cost effective and fitting of the situation.

  14. It is rather sad that McCarthy is so badly understood.
    There were indeed about as many Communist agents in the US government as he said there were. Problem is, he had no idea that it was actually so, much less who they were. He pretended to be facing the threat, when all he was doing was exploiting it for his own advantage. He actually left the US weaker and more vulnerable by distracting response to the real threat through his misdirection.
    Ann Coulter has pointed out that the Communist threat was entirely real. For that she gets smeared by the left as “rehabilitating McCarthy”.
    McCarthy was indeed a very bad man, but only because he actually helped the Communists. Every innocent victim he smeared allowed a real enemy to escape scrutiny.

  15. That’s hilarious stuff !
    You could see HH was going easy on Dayn because he was so pridictable and helpless.
    It made the whole bit funnier.
    If it were a boxing match Dayn stood in the middle of the ring with his hands at his side for 3 rounds as HH did giant windmill rights while doing variations of Michael Jacksons moonwalk and the Ali shuffle.
    Dayne never knew what was going on.

  16. Indeed, rich. One of the most delightful aspects -and a measure of just how sharp Hugh really is – is that you can easily envisage that dumbass walking out of the studio going, “well, geez, that wasn’t so bad, that went pretty well really”… It’ll take him days to start to twig.

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