104 Replies to “The Martin Family Empire”

  3. I’m sure happy I paid attention in French class and I had Corn Flakes boxes to read! This stuff is amazing!

  5. Power Corp. Holdings: AdScam Martin’s “Godfather”:
    Librano$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Power Corporation of Canada is a diversified management and holding company. Power Corporation of Canada has holdings in leading financial services and the communications sector.
    Through its European-based affiliate Pargesa group, Power Corporation holds significant positions in major media, energy, water, waste services, and specialty minerals companies.
    Power Corporation also has diversified interests in Asia.
    http://www.powercorporation.com/index.php?lang=eng

  7. Noel & Don
    AS leader of the Liberal Party of Canada Paul Martin has demonstrated a lack of ethics and a willingness to do anything, in full public view, to maintain his grip on power. Do you think he uses a different set of rules in running his businesses? Fox news north, high praise indeed. Can’t wait until the official version gets here

  8. Don:
    Changing the name to Fox North?
    Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Martin, Demarais, Strong et al are the REAL owners of Eastern Canada. Time the West escaped this morass of corruption and hypocrisy.

  9. Power Corporation huh? So it really IS all about getting, holding, and maintaining power with these people. The socialist “newspeak” and “doublethink” media rhetoric is just one convenient means of blowing smoke and doing that.

  10. What I find so fascinating that if you scratch a liberal from Quebec, Alberta, Manitoba, Nova Scotia, or anywhere really you find a federalist. If you scratch a memeber of the CPC you find one that hates SSM, or one that hates gays in general, or one that wants their province to seperate, or one that wants another province to separate, or someone that hates minoroties, or someone that hates CBC, and usually someone who hates liberals. The CPC is an interesting cast of characters. And if we get Fox News North….you’ll even be told who to hate and be cheered on while doing it.

  11. If a “federalist” is someone who believes in using the power of the state illegally to harm his neighbours and enrich himself, why, you may be right, Don. And if refusal to put up with criminality equals “hate”, and “gay”, “minority”, “liberal”, etc., are all just euphemisms for “criminal”, then I can’t argue with you.
    On any other basis, you’re a contemptibly stupid lying ass.

  12. Innuendo and caricatures instead of facts — good Liberal, Don. Atta boy. Good Liberal.

  13. You’ve never actually watched Fox News, have you Don?
    But the CBC and Toronto Star sure have brainwashed you about who to hate – conservatives.

  14. I enjoy interviews on Fox news. Watched O’reilly hold a Republican governor to account and not let him weasel out. Antonio Zerbais from Star also tried to weasel out and again didn’t get away with it. Saw the Chairman of Boeing right after the Boeing scandal, squirming and sweating. Real interviews, no softball questions, people held to account.
    That is what we need in Canada.

  16. Hey Don,
    If Canada had a “FOX NEWS North” I wager we would not have ten years of uninterrupted Liberal government corruption.
    MSM needs a a FOX News Canada wake-up!
    And a federal civil service top level shake-up, RCMP included.

  20. Go easy on Don: dawn breaks slowly for those who sleep soundly; or, it breaks with a boom…boom…boom..da da da boom, as it has in London, England. Once Humpty Dumpty Don falls, the yolk is on his shell; never to be put together again.
    Don:swastika is spelled: swastika.
    # An ancient cosmic or religious symbol formed by a Greek cross with the ends of the arms bent at right angles in either a clockwise or a counterclockwise direction.
    # Such a symbol with a clockwise bend to the arms, used as the emblem of the Nazi party and of the German state under Adolf Hitler, officially adopted in 1935.
    Remember: facts, please, and correct spelling is a must for conservatives.

  21. I love Conservatives and the CPC.
    Apparently, the voting public in this country is so stupid, backwards and easily led down the garden path, that if only they’d see things the way the CPC and it’s supporters see it, Harper would have been elected.
    Stupid Evil Libs, what with winning the election and all. Jerks!
    That’s not to say they aren’t corrupt. There needs to be accountability, but the majority of the country doesn’t seem that interested in seeing that happen.
    Of course, if you think Harper, McKay or any iteration of the CPC, PC, or Reform party (or the NDP or Bloc for that matter) aren’t equally corrupt, then I have some lovely summer real estate for you just outside of Tuktuyuktuk for you.
    As for FOX News… well let’s just say that I can appreciate an opposing viewpoint, but I’ve seen O’Reilly bully and shout over a few too many guests to actually buy the “Fair and Balanced” schtick.
    The loudest view isn’t necessarily based in truth. But if it’s the view you want to believe, then good for you.
    And insinuating gay, minority or liberal are euphamisms for criminal is petty and offensive, and a pretty weak debate tactic.

  22. Don,
    I’m going to resort to name calling here.. but you opened the door.
    Don, you’re an asshole!
    I’m a CPC member and I don’t hate gays. My gay neice is getting married soon and this old uncle will be at the wedding. I don’t hate Liberals, just what they have done to this country that I served faithfully for 26 years. I don’t hate the CBC but I don’t condone their reporting biases.
    I don’t agree with provinces separating, but , as with any marriage, even this political one, sometimes one partner or the other feels they have had enough. I understand the feelings of Quebec and Alberta.
    To imply that this Blog would ever tell us to hate someone or something is an insult
    As I said. you’re an Asshole!

  23. Since grammar appears to be a huge issue here, there should have been a period after insult, old squid.

  25. Wow, we’ve got a professional debater here to give us tips! Gee, vagabond, sorry my tactics are so weak. I should stick to good old barefaced lying, like you.
    You’re well aware that I didn’t equate gays, minorities or liberals with criminals. (Yes, I’m well aware that all such people are much likelier than average to be criminals, but that’s up to them, isn’t it?) Don said conservatives hate such people. And I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of conservatives I’ve met who hate anything other than criminals. It’s Don’s equivilancy, not mine. As we can all see perfectly clearly. As you knew perfectly well when you lied.
    Monte Solberg is corrupt? You’re lying. Stephen Harper is corrupt? You’re lying. Come on. Prove that you’re not.
    What, can’t do it? Easier to sit back and sneer, is it? Thought so. Come on, where’s that debating brilliance when you need it?
    You hate two-thirds of the population of this country. You hate all its institutions, all its heretage, all its history, and you fight to destroy it. And you think you can criticise the conservatives for being hateful? That’s not debating, that’s nosepicking.

  26. Sheesh! Vagabond, these guys are good. We’re in wey over our heads here. Apparently, and I say this truely, I’m an asshole and you’re a nosepicker, and there’s a pretty decent chance we’re both crimminals. And, and, no less an authority than EBT (No Shit, EBT!)says we hate 2/3 rds of the country. And he’s backed up by old squid, a tolerant CPCer if there ever was one, who even loves his queer niece. I don’t know Vangabond, I think these wacko right-wing nutjobs want to take over the country, go to war in Iraq, and worship that silly chimp, George W. Bush. Than God, thank God, the Canadian people are a lot brighter than them.

  27. “Of course, if you think Harper, McKay or any iteration of the CPC, PC, or Reform party (or the NDP or Bloc for that matter) aren’t equally corrupt, then I have some lovely summer real estate for you just outside of Tuktuyuktuk for you.”
    Wow…using that kind of logic the American people should’nt have voted democrat in 1976 becuase the Dems are “equally corrupt”.
    But just out of curiosity, do you have any proof that Harper and MckAY are corrupt? Go ahead, I’m all eyes and ears.

  28. Ah yes… the left-lib pulls from their arsenal that 500 ton argument reserved only for the most challenging of debates on Canadian politics to demonstrate, yet again, the intellectual inferiority of the right…
    “BUSH IS A CHIMP!”

  29. I don’t believe that either Steve “let’s build a firewall” Harper or Peter “I”ll sign the back of a napkin and promise we’ll never merge” MacKay are corrupt. A tad disingenuous at times, perhaps.

  30. What the hell is the matter with you people? Stephen McA is not evern here yet, and everyone is jumping all over each other? 🙂
    But seriously — a question: for how long has the Martin family been building their financial empire? I’m just curious to know how far back it goes, or has everything shown in the chart been amassed under Paul Jr.?

  31. No Don the Canadian people are not brighter than them – they keep electing you corrupt, lying bastard. We CPC supporters merely wish Canandians were alot brighter than that and could see throught all the smears.
    PM so far has been the most devisive PM we have had, and this from a guy who campaigned on bringing the west in. So far he’s further alienated Quebec and the west. Two Tier health, dispite all the vilifying of RK, was decided by the courts. Peacekeeping – sending 35 year old re-fit Sea Kings to Afghanistan – good idea. That’s three strikes on quintessential Canadian issues that Canadians claim are core values. Tell me what exactly have you lying bastards done – but ruin this country and things that we’re supposed to stand for.
    Most of us here are tired of you lot mocking us, look at your bloody track record and lets hear you actually defend any of it on it’s merits!!!

  32. Pretty much by Jr. (of whom I am no great fan, by the way). But daddy certainly opened the right doors.

  33. Oh my god, “firewalls”! Jesus, I surrender. Anybody who wants constitutional government according to the rule of law must by definition be corrupt as hell. What a fool I was to tangle with professional nosepickers – oops, I’m so sorry, debaters – like you.
    But seriously, isn’t interesting that these people don’t actually have any reasons or ideas to back their assertions up with? Just lies (you’ll notice nobody mentioned Bush until they asserted we were all backing Bush), abuse, and more lies. Well, enough of this, I’m going to debate my nose for a while.

  34. Don,
    I don’t recall ever claiming I was “tolerant”, and , yes, I do love my neice. You see, it’s apparent that if people are different from you, you don’t like them and you seem to harbour a desire to get rid of them by using ridicule or insults.
    Ain’t gonna work, bud. Your kind will be dust before that works on me.
    My original opinion still stands!

  35. “Stupid Evil Libs, what with winning the election and all. Jerks!”
    You mean the election that should have been called when they lost multiple votes of confidence? Oh wait, that election never happened. The Liberal Party believes in accountable government about as much as Charles I did.

  36. Kate,
    Please … don’t bother dignifying fools like Don with debate …. in doing so you take de bait.
    This great blogg is becoming a victim of it’s own popularity. It becoming a chat room for juveniles.
    Please … don’t respond to fools. They will only get you a sore stomache. Just ignore them and they will get bored an move on the places like Rabble.ca where they belong.

  37. Squid……..you said “..if people are different from you, you don’t like them.” Untrue. We are a wonderful nation with a diversity that is breath taking. We come from many cultures, faiths, and races. We are a great country. This bullshit that all liberals are crimminals because of adscam is such trash is a crock. Hell, if Martin’s mother is involved in adscam throw her in jail. These were seriously corrupt dudes and no jail cell is to filthy for their ilk.
    When Brian Mulroney had cabinet ministers and senators end up in jail, I’d didn’t call Tory friends and aquaintences and call them thieves, liars and crooks.
    Man, I’m a memeber of the Liberal Party. The party of Laurier, King, St.Laurent, Pearson, Trudeau , Turner (ok..he was a short lived, better dressed Joe Clark), and Chretien. I’m content to live through this slight period of rather unenlightened leadership by Martin. He won’t be there much longer. I can do this because the flag, CPP, UIC, U.N. peacekeepers, a WWII record that was stunning for a country our size, Charter of Rights, waves of immigration (the Ukranians 1900-1910, the Irish (hell we just kept coming, Italians, Portugeeses, Poles..and now people from Asia. Bright people. People with good family values. People who want to build this country. People who want to build this country with the ones that came before them.
    And yes, I do support SSM. Ain’t happening in my bedroom , but then that’s my business, not yours.
    Defend the Liberal Party. Man, we stand proudly on our record.

  38. Again people, I implore you .. ignore this fool named don. He is bored child and he is getting to you.
    Don’t let Kate’s blogg become a juvenile chat room. It’s too important for that … please.

  39. Captain AdScam CSL Martin, Jr.:
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Librano$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Power Corp. was also the making of a certain bright young man named Paul Martin. It was Mr. Strong who took a shine to Mr. Martin and hired him as his special assistant. And it was Paul Desmarais who put Mr. Martin in charge of Canada Steamship Lines (Mr. Martin eventually bought the company.)
    Re: Martin, Strong, Desmarais, Park, Kojo Annan, Saddam all linked… By Margaret Wente.
    http://canadiancoalition.com/forum/messages/6658.shtml

  40. Right on Duke…you don’t want differing opinions on here…hell, free speech might break out. Better to stroke each other and coo how bright you all are. You can all huff, “Liberals bad, CPC good,” until the cows come home.

  41. Don,
    You say you support SSM yet, you call my gay neice”Queer”.Double standard, or what?How many of the immigrants, peacekeepers and WWII soldiers that you are so proud of would fit into the “queer” category, if the truth could be told?
    And Duke, this guy ain’t getting to me. Too old, too’been there-done that’ to worry about him.

  43. A Rose by any other name. IF Don is Scott Reid does it make him any less of an idiot or more?
    At this observance, it appears to be just about even, which justifies Iron Lady’s query.
    As for Paul Martin and his association with Power Corp and Maurice Strong: Obviously Power Corps influence is not limited to the Liberals. Those whose names show up prominently are: Bob Rae, Brian Mulroney, Pierre Trudeau, but MOST prominently are Jean Chretien and Paul Martin.
    Fingers in many pies, this squid has many, many tentacles and the ink is as black as night.

  46. I am really pissed off that we have a PM who’s been so successful in business. Shame on him. We need failed business people to run our country. Where does Paul Martin get off have a successful private sector career?

  47. Peter Loewen,
    I am reminded of the words attributed to Mark Messier who, when asked if he would coach the New York Rangers, replied, “Just because I’ve had a successful hockey career, doesn’t mean I’d make a good coach”.
    Same goes for Paul Martin.
    Now slowly slide your tongue out of your cheek before you bite yourself.

  48. I can’t balance my chequebook, but even I know that $4.5 billion deals are better drawn up in a finance minister’s office than on the back of a napkin at your local Park & Fuck.

  49. Walking Eagle:
    But it’s still a pretty good signal, isn’t it?
    And, Iron Lady, I understand that you don’t like the way Martin went about making a deal with Layton. I assume you’re unhappy because he hasn’t promised as much spending as Stephen Harper.
    I just find it funny that the same people who champion the application of business principles to government, and who champion private sector success are want to acknowledge just how impressive are PM’s accomplishments in the private sector.

  50. Annie “Got-Your-Guns McLellan: Will your response to these stats be: “Canada is not a target.”, as it is to the Islamist homicide bomber threat?
    Firearms Registry: a Librano$$$$$$$$$ scandal; $2 billion dollar Librano$$$$$$$ patronage scam.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    Crime statistics, 2004
    Canada’s crime rate, based on data reported by police services, fell a marginal 1% last year. While the total violent crime rate declined, the national homicide rate increased 12%. (Statistics Canada).
    http://www.primetimecrime.com/
    National homicide rate increase: twelve, aka 12 %. Over to you, Annie.

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