Tipper’s Name: Michael Moore
Where it happened: New York
Total bill / Tip amount / Percentage: $248.73 / $1.27 / 0%
What happened:
This fat bastard first bitched about not being able to get a table by the window then ordered enough food for himself to feed me for a week. After busting my ass trying to bring him the next plate before he finished the first he only leaves a dollar and some change for a tip… Dude wheres my tip?
Also: Sean Penn, Rosie O’Donnell and over at the Boston Clam Shack, make that one more vote for Bush.
The weather’s beautiful here, too, Doctor. All wkend, it’s forecasted.
I do relish a great debate, but it’s very rare to get one from someone of an opposing viewpoint. Remember “Don”? He never made an argument- he only came on to call everyone a bigot simply because we want to fight terrorists. He promised a debate, but reneged. Looks like I terminated him earlier this week. That’s why I started calling myself The Terminator.
I guess wrt the tipping issue, we were just having a good time and expressing our opinion of Mike Moore. No need to debate there. Many think Moore’s an asshole and many think he’s not. Period.
Fair enough. Come on over to my site when you want a good discussion. I would also recommend Angry in the Great White North, a conservative site with an intellectual difference. I spend some time over there. I’m sure you must be aware of it.
Again, have a good weekend.
I’ve visited Angry & commented a little. This wk I also visited Canadianna’s Place. See the posting and comments entitled, “It’s All About Sex”. Some pretty good back & forth between me and others. Will check out your site. Hadn’t realized you had one!
Here we go again w/ the wishing of the good wkend…
Yeah, I know you think I made no argument here, but I, like many of my fellow good right-thinking brethren, was simply expressing my OPINION of that becapped, bespectacled, bearded, smells-like-armpits-and-unwashed-bum big fat blob of dough.
[…and another…]
“When an issue worthy of the formulation of argumentative points arises, you can be assured I’ll be there if I have time.”
I look forward to it. It would make a nice change.
I really do want to get out of this thread, but keep feeling semi-responsible for some of it.
If Moore is little else but “smells bad” (you’ve been in reasonably close proximity to him?), leave it; it’s not an “issue worthy of…” of, well, anything. It isn’t useful debate, or even opinion. It’s akin to “Stephen Harper has a bad haircut.” Which I think he sort of does, but it’s not relevant to his or any other politics, and pushing that line would not only make me silly, but damage the credibility of…of people who think the Tories were better off before re-construction and wish a fourth party had remained viable, &c.
A close relative of mine is an exec at a major US defence contractor; one that (unsurprisingly) Moore savages quite a bit in print and film. Last time I saw her[*], I asked what she thought of his natterings about her employer, and in general. Hmm. Well. He did manage to make a point now and then, but she already votes [in the US] and did not need to be told how to do so as if she were a fool. Vis-a-vis her employer, she commented on his prodigious talents for finding a great number of out-of-context, unrelated items, and stringing same together. No further comment needed.
And all of this was even lubricated with a bit of booze. You can imagine what a great Xmas Eve family round table would have gone on if she’d said he smelled like unwashed bum (and told me to shut it and analyse his detractors).
I’m also amazed by his inability to find a diet and good tailor, but am not about to analyse a body of work based on personal experience — consider how many great thinkers would be down the tubes if that was a rational thing to do. It also invariably reads like a tacit admission that one hasn’t really considered the facts, but just thrown together a bit of shallow-n-nasty. Which is exactly what I’ve been objecting to here all along: unwashed-bum-etc cheapens public discourse. Pointing out a regular, substantial failing of his rhetorical technique sends one off to further reasoned and polite debate.
[*] Yeah — “she.” Which I feel obligated to take pains to point out since the default assumption around here seems to be “he.” Nope. Not me, either.
Finally;
I guess wrt the tipping issue, we were just having a good time and expressing our opinion of Mike Moore. No need to debate there. Many think Moore’s an asshole and many think he’s not. Period.
“Period” — ? I don’t know.
Many might think he has something to say but are upset with the way he says it. Or they think “Roger & Me” was a good movie but “Fahrenheit 9/11” was so poorly done that it did nobody any favours by polarising the left and right and leaving the middle to twist in the wind while the two traditional sides became increasingly stupid in public.
Or just that he may be more clever than people give him credit for. Sat in an American baseball stadium recently? Loads of fat sweaty white guys in ball caps, wearing sloppy clothes. I admit it’s a stretch, but he may have found that pandering to ‘middle America’ via appearance is an effective aid to propagandising.
Golly willikers, I didn’t realize that the kids next to me at the last Texas Rangers ball game were actually fat white guys in disguise! And the girls in the row behind me, the skinny guys wearing button-down shirts…….
I’m so glad that Random Bytowner has enlightened me. Now I’m aware that every one of those people (the ones that sure looked like Hispanics, African-Americans, and even the women wearing burqahs) was actually a fat, sweaty white guy. Next time I go to a game, I’m planning to ask one of the guys that looks like a teenage girl how he manages to change his appearance so successfully.
And it’s nice that you point out how it’s the “middle ‘murkins” that are such an unseemly bunch. You yourself must be in another category; what, pray tell, might it be? Are you criticizing from across the northern border (in which case you will no doubt be instructing the RCMP to make sure none of the nasty middle ‘murkins try to get into Canada; that kind of people would never do as tourists) or are you in a different socio-economic category?
Must go now, have to go chug down a few 6-packs, eat a bag of cheesburgers and then walk 100 metres so I’ll be big, sweaty and smelly enough to rate a seat behind home plate.
I gotta admit Random is a funny individual. However, being funny doesn’t necessarily mean one will recognize when others are being funny rather than seriously argumentative.
Random, you say that making fun of the Supreme Overlord of Fat White Smelly Blobs harms our credibility. I would differ here, as I have already indicated we’re not trying to be seriously argumentative; rather we’re having fun, which I’m certain is allowed. We conservatives are not all tight-assed, most of us anyway. Are you yourself so tight-assed as to never loosen up a bit? Come on, you could be more fun more often and a tad less serious and argumentative. Watch a Farrelly brothers movie or one with Leslie Nielsen or something and just let yourself go, as life is too short not to call Michael Moore stinky, etc. Hell, he knows it’s gonna happen if he’s gonna say false crap about the man who’s saving good peoples’ asses the world over.
BTW, if you’ve been in close proximity to people like Moore, you’ll surely agree their personal hygiene obviously leaves something to be desired, according to one’s olfactory organ.
Anyway, I hope you’ll be around for issues worthy of genuine debate. Enough of fat, stinky-assed slob lefties in ballcaps for now. Let’s move on to important stuff.
The main point of all is the waitress has to pay taxes on his feeding frenzy whether she gets tipped or not, the man is wealthy and can afford to tip. Period. In America waitresses/waiters make their livings not on wages, but on tips. Hopefully the other, probably less wealthy, patrons she served left enough to make up for that cheap 5hit.
Sorry I meant cheap loud mouthed 5hit
so…any of you ever had a meal served in manhattan? any thoughts as to whether this waste-tress was worthy of a tip? my experience tells me that someone has to stop tipping bitchy NYC wait people when most don’t deserve much more than a kick in the shins. perhaps moore is a hero?
btw, Random is kicking your asses. Pretty funny to watch all of this…soreta like picking a scab combined with looking under a wet rock…I especially enjoy Steven McAllister’s rather comical posts. the frenzied snit-ishness of it all is mighty light in the loafers, if ya get sarge’s drift! stevie ya don’t style hair for a living do ya?
Sarge, I can assure you I have no fecking idea how to even cut hair. Hell, half of mine’s gone anyway!
Surely ya don’t think that only those skinny guys in tight clothes and fancy, loose jewellery, making all those pretentious gestures with their hands can be funny? Can’t guys who like chicks also be funny?
I’ll have ya know, Sarge, I’m as straight as Day. As in Stockwell. Do you bloody understand? Geez! Some people! They think ya gotta write like an illiterate moron to be hetero. I hope the sarge was just shittin’ around and being the way a sarge is supposed to be.
And, Sarge, Random ain’t kickin’ anybody’s arse. Don’t know how you got that idea. And what the hell makes you think anyone’s light in the loafers? Were you shell-shocked outside Kandahar? In which case you could be forgiven, otherwise, watch what you say. Did you see what happened to “Don”? I, in writing, terminated that Librano for less than what you’re saying here. Don’t make me switch back to being The Terminator, man.
BTW, you’re not some kind of a lefty fool posing as a warrior and trying to stir up trouble for the good conservatives around here, are you? The Terminator is programmed to eliminate such insurgents. The keyboard is a very potent weapon in the right hands. If you can’t operate the required weapon, then don’t enter intellectual combat with those who’ve mastered the art.
Sarge, are you Don?
I blew a shot of coffee out of my nose I was laughing so hard. “Stephen McAllisr, Lt. Colonel of the 101st Fighting Keyboard Brigade.”
Man, they should give you your own cartoon show.
Ah, bugger off, “Don”.
I see you still haven’t denied being Warren Kinsella.
And what the hell makes you think anyone’s light in the loafers?
Not, of course, to be specific about anybody here, but incessant assertions of one’s heterosexuality crossed with using allegations of homosexuality as a sort of insult are pretty typical of, well, guys who have problems in the locker room when they notice their penis making slight motions when, god forbid, they’re surrounded by naked people of the same gender.
Re. tipping and Rosie O’Donnell: a brand-new Shoppers Drug Mart here chose to leave a selection of tabloids and nothing else on the table in their very nice waiting area for prescriptions. Having asthma can be sort of educational: there was a tidbit about O’Donnell leaving a $480 tip on a $480 tab.
In a tabloid. Making it as valid and useful a comment on her as an unsubstantiated tidbit on the web.
Which had so much to do with my original post here that I couldn’t resist tacking it on…
Ah, sod off, pompous poofter. 🙂
I’m thinking the “Sarge” could be a clever cover for Warren Kinsella to try to get us to say something stupid which he could use against us in the MSM. Let’s not fall for it. We’re not like he likes to claim we are. Let’s disappoint him, people.
Shag off, Warren.
sarge here…gotta tell ya I have no idea who warren kinsalla is, but if he’s tryin’ to get ya to say stupid things, he’s got an loafer’s job!
sarge don’t mean to disparage the homosexuals, only that the wrttings of this mcAllister fella reminds old sarge of the reviews of certain broadway critics, and quite frankly the writtings of the foofy james lileks of the minneapolis trib….sarge aint tryin’ to hide anything, and sarge can admit that if he had to shag a man it would be have to be brad pitt or somesuch, maybe elvis? I mean what red blooded american wouldn’t admit that elvis was HOTT! so, ya see, sarge don’t mind being in touch with his effeminate side, he just hates shrill bitchy theater critics, and neo conservatives who blog in the style. it’s not sarge’s fault that many of them do tend to have more than a passing interest in barbara striesand….hence the McAllister comments.