Operation Bare Back

If you are a fan of SF novelist Robert Anson Heinlein and have read his book The Puppet Masters, then you might have felt an odd resonance (as I did) when I read the following news item this morning:

“Mohammed,” shouted the police. “Take your clothes off! Come out with your hands on your head and you will be all right!” — Time Online

In the novel, which is set in the 21st century, alien parasites have invaded Earth and are attaching themselves to human hosts, effectively turning them into zombies. While the parasites preferred to ride on the hosts’ shoulders (giving them a humped appearance), they could attach elsewhere. The only real way to be sure that a person was parasite free was to view them naked. It was for this reason that the U.S. government enacted ‘Operaton Bare Back’ in the novel, requiring the country’s citizens to walk around in the buff.

We have another parasite on the loose in the world today, and it is called Fanatical Islam. While it attaches itself to minds rather than bodies, some of the infected minds have a distressing habit of attaching explosives to their bodies. Reading the news this morning left me wondering if we are close to the point where a real-world ‘Operation Bare Back’ might be effective at stopping suicide bombers?

Of course, it probably wouldn’t be feasible. I’m sure that someone fanatical enough to blow themselves up along with innocents like children probably wouldn’t have much compunction about having some of their innards removed thru their anus (to avoid scarring) and getting a duffel bag’s worth of plastique shoved up there instead. Not sure how you’d detonate that, but I trust them to figure that sort of thing out. Operation Bare Back wouldn’t help here.

It’s also not feasible from the aspect of people still needing to carry objects with them on their journeys. I’m sure you can hide enough C4 and a detonator in a briefcase and put the trigger in the handle. Operation Bare Back wouldn’t help here, either.

In fact, the only area where I see a real world Operation Bare Back having a chance of working is that Osama and his nutbar Islamist friends prefer their women covered from head to toe in clothing. Having naked females everywhere would probably cause them to flee the country.

Any thoughts on this?

(Note: this post was made by Sean, one of Kate’s erstwhile guest authors. Please don’t blame the weirdness of it on her.)

63 Replies to “Operation Bare Back”

  1. Arrests in London; one awaits the media reporting:
    Police brutality: teargas used in violent assault;
    Muslims humiliated: forced undressed into public view.
    The horror! The horror!
    Mark
    Ottawa

  2. Take Notice. The Jihadist heads turn and aim their gaze directly at Canadians.
    *Ominous online notice warns about new troops* and the headline: Taliban get *heads-up* about Canadian message.
    In the National Post today July 29/05. at Canada.com
    Print off a copy. [It is just 2 pages long], before it gets filed behind registration process.
    This message was translated by SITE Institute, formed in 2002, to monitor and report on Islamic Terrorist information.
    The message exaggerates the number to 250 when actually only 110 men left Edmonton.
    Next week 100 more leave so I guess the number is not too far off.
    Most troop numbers I have seen up to now have usually been in the thousands. What the heck is this 100 by 100 count supposed to do ?
    I could see it if they each had an F18, night vision and rockets, but knowing Libscammers, I suspect they have not much more than FNs and Jeeps.
    This is war, not a forest fire mop-up.
    Ugly word *war*, but pretending otherwise is always painfully expensive.
    Mark Steyn is absolutely correct and we better shift into *Serious* now to cut our losses.
    73s TonyGuitar at BendGovt.blog.ca
    PS> I just noticed they mention best way to hit oil refineries.
    My ESP must be working. Exactly what I thought they would target as mentioned in previous comments.

  3. People walking around naked? Even Carolyn Parrish and Michael Moore? Fugeddaboudit! Only good looking people should be licenced to do that! I’ve seen enough of those weirdos in the parades in the gold lame thongs, knee-high black socks and sandals or in nothing but a pair of shoes like the bearded idiot!
    I’m not sure even an AQ murder bomber would want to rip out his guts thru his hiney hole and shove dynamite thereup. It’d be simpler to detonate an attache case nuke in downtown TO at rush hour, although it’d be pretty hard not to notice a naked terrorist with an attache case, I reckon. Ditto a naked terrorist with an extremely sore bummy.
    Please, no walking around naked, people! You may, however, get into a Viennese art museum free if you’re bareassed, see:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/29/AR2005072900556_pf.html
    Sorry, there are no pictures with the article! Sorry!

  4. HATEFUL BIGOT LEFTY MOONBAT ALERT!
    GO DOWN TO “NO WAR FOR CONVENIENCE STORES!” BELOW.
    SOMEONE NAMED LOBOY2K HAS INCITED HATRED OF CHRISTIANS AND SAID WE’RE WORSE THAN THE ISLAMOFASCISTS!
    KEEP AN EYE ON THIS FECKING MOONBAT!

  5. Darcey, you just proved my point with that awful link you provided with the awfully ugly naked people! Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!
    People, don’t bother looking. You might puke all over your keyboards!

  6. Just wait till the big K gets back and sees just how all hell breaks loose when she’s not here to kick ass! People giving links to the world’s ugliest people bareassed! Fo’fecksake! Get your broom out and shoo them all away, please, Darcey!

  7. Abdulla Bulbul Ameer (The True Source of Hash)
    1. The sons of the prophet
    Were hardy and bold,
    And quite unaccustomed to fear,
    But the bravest by far,
    In the ranks of the Shah,
    Was Abdulla Bulbul Ameer.
    This son of the desert,
    In battle aroused,
    Could spit twenty men on his spear.
    A terrible creature,
    Both sober and soused
    |: Was Abdulla Bulbul Ameer. 😐
    2. If you wanted a man
    To encourage the van,
    Or to harass the foe from the rear,
    Or to storm a redoubt,
    You had only to shout
    For Abdulla Bulbul Ameer.
    There are heroes aplenty
    And men known to fame
    In the troops that were led by the Czar;
    But the bravest of these
    Was a man by the name
    |: Of Ivan Skavinsky Skivar. 😐
    3. He could imitate Irving,
    Play euchre and pool
    And perform on the Spanish Guitar.
    In fact, quite the cream
    Of the Muscovite team
    Was Ivan Skavinsky Skivar.
    The ladies all loved him,
    His rivals were few;
    He could drink them all under the bar.
    As gallant or tank,
    There was no one to rank
    |: With Ivan Skavinsky Skivar. 😐
    4. One day this bold Russian
    Had shouldered his gun
    And donned his most truculent sneer
    Downtown he did go,
    Where he trod on the toe
    Of Abdulla Bulbul Ameer
    “Young man” quoth Bulbul,
    “Has life grown so dull,
    That you’re anxious to end your career?
    Vile infidel! Know,
    You have trod on the toe
    |: Of Abdulla Bulbul Ameer.” 😐
    5. “So take your last look
    At the sunshine and brook
    And send your regrets to the Czar;
    By this I imply
    You are going to die,
    Mr. Ivan Skavinsky Skivar.”
    Quoth Ivan, “My friend,
    Your remarks, in the end,
    Will avail you but little, I fear,
    For you ne’er will survive
    To repeat them alive,
    |: Mr. Abdulla Bulbul Ameer!” 😐
    6. Then this bold mameluke
    Drew his trusty chibouque
    With a cry of “Allah Akbar!”
    And with murderous intent,
    He ferociously went
    For Ivan Skavinsky Skivar.
    Then they parried and thrust
    And they side-stepped and cussed
    Till their blood would have filled a great pot.
    The philologist blokes,
    Who seldom crack jokes,
    |: Say hash was first made on that spot. 😐
    7. They fought all that night,
    ‘neath the pale yellow moon;
    The din, it was heard from afar;
    And great multitudes came,
    So great was the fame
    Of Abdul and Ivan Skivar.
    As Abdul’s long knife
    Was extracting the life –
    In fact, he was shouting “Huzzah!”
    He felt himself struck
    By that wily Kalmuck,
    |: Count Ivan Skavinsky Skivar. 😐
    8. The sultan drove by
    In his red-breasted fly,
    Expecting the victor to cheer;
    But he only drew nigh
    To hear the last sigh
    Of Abdulla Bulbul Ameer.
    Czar Petrovich, too,
    In his spectacles blue
    Rode up in his new crested car.
    He arrived just in time
    To exchange a last line
    |: With Ivan Skavinsky Skivar. 😐
    9. A loud-sounding splash
    From the Danube was heard
    Resounding o’er meadows afar;
    It came from the sack
    Fitting close to the back
    Of Ivan Skavinsky Skivar.
    There’s a tomb rises up
    Where the blue Danube flows;
    Engraved there in characters clear;
    “Ah stranger, when passing,
    Please pray for the soul
    |: Of Abdulla Bulbul Ameer.” 😐
    10. A Muscovite maiden
    Her lone vigil keeps,
    Neath the light of the pale polar star;
    And the name that she murmurs
    As oft as she weeps
    Is Ivan Skavinsky Skivar.
    The sons of the prophet
    Were hardy and bold,
    And quite unaccustomed to fear,
    But the bravest by far,
    In the ranks of the Shah,
    |: Was Abdulla Bulbul Ameer. 😐
    “Allah Akbar”
    http://ingeb.org/songs/thesonso.html

  8. Darcey, geez give us some warning. I almost poked my eyes out with a fork. I’ve heard of knuckle-draggers, but nipple-draggers? Gads.
    Anyone notice that the standard footwear for the Lada-driving, Granola-eating peace nut is the sandal? What ever happened to earth shoes?

  9. “What ever happened to earth shoes?”
    They smell ‘earthy’ enough without the earth shoes. I think the idea behind the sandals is to help dissipate some of the stench. (Not much you can do about the tofu farts, tho.)

  10. Tony Guitar:
    “I could see it if they each had an F18, night vision and rockets, but knowing Libscammers, I suspect they have not much more than FNs and Jeeps.”
    Actually, our soldiers’ individual equipment and weaponry are state-of-the-art and as good as anything the Americans have – in more than a few ways even better.
    We have not used FN rifles for quite some time
    now (having said that, the FN 7.62 was an absolutely deadly rifle and despite its vintage, is still a lethal, highly accurate piece of kit).
    In fact, if there is anything tired and clapped out about Canadian equipment, it’s the CF-18 fighter which is now being pushed to the limits of its airframe life with no replacement in sight.
    Now that’s a $$$$ issue the Libscammers are truly in denial over!
    Our problem is not with our individual soldiers who are amongst the most professional and capable in the world.* It’s the fact that we have insignificant numbers of them and we’re working the ones we do have into the ground.
    * In my opinion, a battalion of Vandoos would clean up Port-au-Prince handily rather than the hash the current UN force is making of things down there.

  11. I agree with JJM. We’ve sent Alternatives and bureaucrats to the Haitian hellhole. But to send the Vandoos without clear rules of engagement and a mission statement would probably drop them in the same pot as the UN team. While we’re at it, we should send some tree huggers down there to see what kind of environmental degradation poverty causes. The 100 million dollars we’re giving to China would go a long way in Haiti. Unfortunately Haiti has nothing for Maurice Strong, Power Corp or Jean Chretien. It’s discouraging that support for the Francophonie takes second place to money.

  12. JJM, During the sixties, we new boot-camp volunteers spent almost a year at Cornwallis near Digby Nova Scotia in basic training.
    During that stay we ran a few weekend marathon runs where you would come in seeing black edges on things and your lungs seemed to be bleeding.
    I thought at the time that those runs should have been trained for and repeated on a weekly basis.
    Nothing gives one stamina, sharpness, and endurance like running.
    Everyone should have been issued a moutain bike also. Digby and the rolling Anapolis Valley is the ideal place on earth to burn up the road with a bike.
    Now I understand they only train for a few months or weeks there.
    Accountants should not be allowed to cheapen everything we do in life. Eh?
    73s TG

  13. Tony G, one of my brothers graduated from Cornwallis in ’83. First in a class of 100! Never underestimate a McAllister!

  14. Oooh, Ed Minchau, tread carefully. Dangerous territory, possibly, even if one likes the occasional dose of danger… Yes, a hot babe, yes, but be careful!

  15. JJM, I hope in the near-enough future, our forces are provided with, among many other things, some F-22 Raptors and F-35 JSFs. Gotta have some A-10 Warthogs. Some armored Hummers are also needed. Plus a variety of whirlybirds, including S&R and attack. And definitely some monster transport planes. We do have the money already. It’s just being wasted billion by billion by the crooks led by the Supreme Overlord in 24 Sussex.
    I get so disheartened to see our warriors having to drive ordinary Silverados like the regular folk. Damn Librano appeaseniks!

  16. Stephen McAllister: I fear F-22s may soon be beyond even the Pentagon’s budget(and the F-35 is in some trouble too). See LA Times, July 27, “Pentagon May Scrap Jet Plans”:
    http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-na-airforce27jul27,1,842018,print.story
    ‘The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and the F/A-22 programs could be cut in budget moves and as strategies shift to meet unconventional threats.
    By Mark Mazzetti
    Times Staff Writer
    July 27, 2005
    WASHINGTON οΏ½ Facing severe budget pressures, the Pentagon is developing plans to slash the Air Force’s two prized fighter jet programs, according to Defense Department officials and outside experts.
    Military planners are debating options to scale back the Air Force’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and the stealth F/A-22 fighter, as some defense officials question spending billions on weapons that have little use against terrorist networks and other unconventional threats.
    Such a move would be an enormous blow to the Air Force, which has spent years developing the two weapons to replace its aging fleet of fighter jets. The budget cuts could encounter fierce resistance from lawmakers, including some from California, whose districts would be hit hard by the economic repercussions.
    Yet as the Pentagon conducts a top-to-bottom assessment of its entire arsenal, defense officials are mindful that the military buildup that followed Sept. 11 is coming to an end. The war in Iraq, which now costs the Defense Department more than $4 billion per month, is contributing to the budget squeeze that jeopardizes some of the Pentagon’s most desired οΏ½ and expensive οΏ½ weapons.
    The Joint Strike Fighter program is projected to cost $245 billion, a price tag shared by the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and nine U.S. allies, including Britain, Canada, Australia, Denmark and Turkey. It is the Pentagon’s most expensive weapons program, and the Air Force has by far the largest part of the budget; it hopes to purchase 1,763 of the planes to replace the F-16 fighter.
    The Air Force also plans to acquire 179 F/A-22s, each costing about $345 million.
    A Pentagon decision to scale back the programs would be the strongest signal yet of a significant change in strategic priorities. With Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld trying to transform the military to deal with unconventional threats, many say that weapons built for dogfights and eluding enemy radar are increasingly irrelevant.
    “What does Al Qaeda’s air force look like?” said one defense official working on the Pentagon’s assessment, known as the Quadrennial Defense Review.
    The Pentagon’s overall budget is expected to grow by 8% between now and the end of fiscal year 2011. Yet with the military planning to field about a dozen big-ticket planes, ships and submarines during that period, the Pentagon estimates that its budget for new weapons will balloon by 34%.
    Some of these weapons, such as the Army’s Future Combat System οΏ½ a fleet of combat vehicles linked to a computer network οΏ½ and the Navy’s DDX destroyer, are being eyed for cutbacks to prevent a budget crisis later.
    Because U.S. troops are heavily engaged in the Middle East and Central Asia, officials say there is little room to cut personnel costs from the Pentagon budget. Weapons, they say, are the only target for cost reductions.
    Although Pentagon officials contend that no final decision has been made about the fate of the two Lockheed Martin-designed jets, some inside the Defense Department say that the deepest cuts could come in the Joint Strike Fighter program. According to one source, the Pentagon could cut the Air Force’s allotment of the planes by half.
    Officials involved in the review process say that the option of canceling one or both of the programs is on the table, although it is extremely unlikely οΏ½ in part because such a move would cause a furor among members of Congress. The fact that close allies are involved in developing the JSF is another factor that should keep the program alive, the officials say.
    Although Lockheed is the prime contractor for both jets, about 40% of the JSF is assembled at Northrop Grumman Corp.’s plant in Palmdale. Most of the F/A-22 is built at Lockheed’s plant in Marietta, Ga.
    Pentagon spokesman Lawrence DiRita said it was too early in the review process to know what specific programs might be cut or expanded, and that planners were still identifying which types of missions the military ought to be preparing for.
    “It’s definitely premature to say we’re looking at cuts,” said DiRita, who stressed that there were months remaining in the review οΏ½ due before Congress by early February οΏ½ and that no proposals had been presented to Rumsfeld.
    He did say that Pentagon officials hoped to make some decisions about weapons programs by September or October, as the Defense Department prepared its fiscal year 2007 budget.
    The Joint Strike Fighter and the F/A-22 have been plagued by cost overruns and production delays. In April, the Government Accountability Office called the JSF’s original business case, laid out by the Pentagon in 1996, “unexecutable.”
    “When you have difficult budget choices to make, several of the Pentagon’s expensive modernization programs become likely targets,” said Andrew Krepinevich of the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments in Washington.
    “The JSF sits at the top of that list.”
    Air Force officials are vigorously lobbying to preserve their coveted weapons, and supporters of the two programs point out that the emergence of China as a potential long-term threat is the best case for a large investment in fighter jet technology.
    Last week, a Pentagon report warned that China’s military buildup threatened the balance of power in Asia, and that within a decade China’s military could pose a threat to modern militaries on the continent.
    Air Force officials, who consider protecting the F/A-22 their top priority during the review process, argue that the jet’s stealth technology makes it essential for eluding the advanced radar systems the Chinese are developing.
    The Pentagon has scaled back the number of F/A-22 jets it intends to buy from 381 aircraft to 179. But Pentagon officials say that deeper cuts in the number of planes purchased are possible.
    Rumsfeld has repeatedly criticized the length of time it can take for a weapon to move from the drawing board to operational testing to deployment in the field.
    “There’s no question that the longer it takes to field a program, the more expensive it becomes,” DiRita said.
    The Pentagon has billed the 2005 Quadrennial Defense Review as a crucial step in the long-term effort to transform the military into a lighter, more agile fighting force.
    As defense officials try to predict the types of threats U.S. forces will confront, they face hard choices about spending billions on weapons that in most cases were first envisioned during the Cold War.
    Many defense experts point out that the success of Iraqi insurgents against U.S. troops is evidence that few enemies will choose to fight the U.S. military on the conventional battlefield.
    Instead of buying expensive technology, they point out, the future of warfare requires that the Pentagon invest in counterinsurgency warfare and bulk up spending on armored vehicles, language training and civil affairs programs.
    “The big cuts in fighters being considered are just one instance of a far broader rethinking in the Pentagon spending priorities,” said Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute, a defense think tank in Arlington, Va. “Much of the impetus for these cuts originated in the Iraqi insurgency and in the need to wage a protracted war against terror.”‘
    Mark
    Ottawa

  17. This string began by citing Heinlein’s “The Puppet Masters”, one of the few Heinlein books I have not read.
    Heinlein fans will know of his Future History series of stories (a term coined by John W Campbell, not Heinlein), in which Heinlein laid out one possible future for humanity (but not necessarily THE future).
    He actually laid out a chart showing that future history, and the relationships of the stories through time, and called the latter half of the 20th century “The Crazy Years”, which he described thus:
    “Considerable technical advance during this period, accompanied by a gradual deterioration of mores, orientation and social institutions, terminating in mass psychoses in the sixth decade, and the Interregnum.”
    Let’s see …. “deterioration of mores, orientation and social institutions, … mass psychoses …” – sounds quite familiar, doesn’t it?
    Heinlein’s timing may have been a bit off, but the accuracy of that description does give pause.

  18. Stephen McAllister: I fear F-22s may soon be beyond even the Pentagon’s budget(and the F-35 is in some trouble too). See LA Times, July 27, “Pentagon May Scrap Jet Plans”:
    http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/la-na-airforce27jul27,1,842018,print.story
    Excerpts”
    ‘The F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and the F/A-22 programs could be cut in budget moves and as strategies shift to meet unconventional threats.
    By Mark Mazzetti
    Times Staff Writer
    July 27, 2005
    WASHINGTON οΏ½ Facing severe budget pressures, the Pentagon is developing plans to slash the Air Force’s two prized fighter jet programs, according to Defense Department officials and outside experts.
    Military planners are debating options to scale back the Air Force’s F-35 Joint Strike Fighter and the stealth F/A-22 fighter, as some defense officials question spending billions on weapons that have little use against terrorist networks and other unconventional threats.
    Such a move would be an enormous blow to the Air Force, which has spent years developing the two weapons to replace its aging fleet of fighter jets. The budget cuts could encounter fierce resistance from lawmakers, including some from California, whose districts would be hit hard by the economic repercussions…
    The Joint Strike Fighter program is projected to cost $245 billion, a price tag shared by the Air Force, Navy, Marine Corps and nine U.S. allies, including Britain, Canada, Australia, Denmark and Turkey. It is the Pentagon’s most expensive weapons program, and the Air Force has by far the largest part of the budget; it hopes to purchase 1,763 of the planes to replace the F-16 fighter.
    The Air Force also plans to acquire 179 F/A-22s, each costing about $345 million.
    A Pentagon decision to scale back the programs would be the strongest signal yet of a significant change in strategic priorities. With Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld trying to transform the military to deal with unconventional threats, many say that weapons built for dogfights and eluding enemy radar are increasingly irrelevant…
    Although Pentagon officials contend that no final decision has been made about the fate of the two Lockheed Martin-designed jets, some inside the Defense Department say that the deepest cuts could come in the Joint Strike Fighter program. According to one source, the Pentagon could cut the Air Force’s allotment of the planes by half.
    Officials involved in the review process say that the option of canceling one or both of the programs is on the table, although it is extremely unlikely οΏ½ in part because such a move would cause a furor among members of Congress. The fact that close allies are involved in developing the JSF is another factor that should keep the program alive, the officials say.
    The Joint Strike Fighter and the F/A-22 have been plagued by cost overruns and production delays. In April, the Government Accountability Office called the JSF’s original business case, laid out by the Pentagon in 1996, “unexecutable.”…
    The Pentagon has scaled back the number of F/A-22 jets it intends to buy from 381 aircraft to 179. But Pentagon officials say that deeper cuts in the number of planes purchased are possible…
    “The big cuts in fighters being considered are just one instance of a far broader rethinking in the Pentagon spending priorities,” said Loren Thompson of the Lexington Institute, a defense think tank in Arlington, Va. “Much of the impetus for these cuts originated in the Iraqi insurgency and in the need to wage a protracted war against terror.”‘
    Mark
    Ottawa

  19. The PM, Anne McLellan and other government officials in charge of establishing our various social, immigration & security policies should be handed a copy of Tzu’s ‘The Art of War’ & then forced to familiarize themselves with some of the information posted on websites similiar to this one:
    “You should instill a hatred for this culture and its ways in the hearts of your children, and inform them that it is contrary to divine law and the sound nature of man.”
    http://63.175.194.25/index.php?ln=eng&ds=qa&lv=browse&QR=70256&dgn=4

  20. Well, I don’t know about Schedule Bareback, or Schedule Suntan (please, let’s make our Heinlein references correct πŸ™‚ ), but I think that the Menezes shooting showed that Schedule Seasonable Outerwear is already in effect.

  21. Off topic: Anyone care to speculate why an AWACS flew into Pearson Saturday afternoon?
    Planes over Mississauga are a dime-a-dozen, but when I heard an unusually loud roar I looked up to see the AWACS with its signature frisbee thingy lining up to land at Pearson.
    Speculation please.

  22. Thanks, Mark, for your helpful info about the F-22 and F-35.
    Gives me food for thought.
    Looks like two currently prevailing realities today: the war on terrorism and the Chinese imperialist threat. We must deal with both.
    Hmm. If the enemies of the free world wish in the future to engage only in nonconventional battle with us, then I’m afraid part of the strategy for victory will necessarily be to tighten up internal security and laws. Naturally, this will lead to fierce protests from the appeasenik forces among us, ie. the MSM, leftist parties and left wing extremists. But in order to win, we must stand firm and maintain a steady messaging position that it’s essential to everyone’s safety and security.
    I submit the US is having budgetary pressures today due to the war on terrorism in which she herself is the largest operator with only a bit of help from some allies. If the entire free world exercised its moral and ethical and nationalist duty to help, then America would be better able to handle the cost of the emergent weapons technologies.
    See, America is not isolationist. The current situation in which she is the chief “cop” of the world is not her fault. It’s the fault of erroneous leftist appeasenik Chamberlainist philosophy which evidences a failure on the part of the political-popularity-first state governments and their populations to have learned the lessons of history (perhaps they are largely unaware of history, in fact).
    I believe that the end of the Cold War has had deleterious effects on the entire planet. During that bygone era, the world, via fear, had in mind that which was important to long-term survival, not only of people, but of the nations and ways of life as they were, and are, known. Ever-larger portions of populations and their states and other institutions became intellectually lazy and ever more decadent. Those to whom this reality applies fail to foresee their resultant ultimate undoing, perhaps not in their own lifetimes, but certainly in the future. The states and populations will become weak and vulnerable to attack by malevolent entities, be they states or terrorists. This threat is an extension of history, a prediction borne of an understanding of the human race and its tendencies. Ignorance is not bliss in the long run. The pursuit of selfish, anencephalitic hedonism always ultimately has dire consequences.

  23. Mississauga Matt, perhaps it was a planned exercise? I doubt Canada has any AWACS, but I’m no military expert; only an enthusiast for fun. If, however, it was unplanned, then I would like an explanation from DND or the gov’t.

  24. Mississauga Matt/Stephen McAllister: Canada has no AWACs. NATO has some though (under the NATO flag)
    http://www.e3a.nato.int/
    so it wasn’t US it might be one of those.
    Stephen: At least the French can act seriously in their national interest. See (thanks to Ezra Levant at Western Standard Blog for noting this):
    Daily Telegraph, “France ejects 12 Islamic ‘preachers of hate'”, By Colin Randall in Paris
    (Filed: 30/07/2005)
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/core/Content/displayPrintable.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/30/ncleric30.xml&site=5
    Note especially the stripping of French nationality if necessary. Can you imagine that in Canada?
    Mark
    Ottawa

  25. “Note especially the stripping of French nationality if necessary. Can you imagine that in Canada?”
    Not under the Libranos. Hell, what’s it with the French? They can do anything and get away with it. If we banned religious headgear or stripped Islamofascist preachers of hate of citizenship and deported them, there’d be political hell to pay. Maybe not, as the MSM will protect the Libs whereas they wouldn’t protect Conservatives.
    When we come to power, we must deal with this leftist infiltration and corruption of the MSM.

  26. “While it attaches itself to minds rather than bodies”
    How does this happen, exactly? Sean, is your mind in danger of being infected?

  27. Ian, only if Sean eats infected mad cow steak will his brain suffer from infection.
    As for minds, the left’s mind has indeed been infected by a mysterious virus.

  28. AWACS:
    Canada has no AWACS but participates jointly with the US in NORAD.
    The presence of USAF AWACS in Canadian airspace is therefore a complete non-issue.
    Oh, and because of NORAD, Canadian CF-18s can, and do, intercept over US airspace. And they have done so in the past. A number of airliners were escorted to US airports by CF-18s after 9/11.
    By the way, Canada provides a considerable number of personnel to the multinational NATO AWACS force.

  29. All this discussion regarding AWACS, F/A22s and the F-35 is light years away from what is needed by the Canadian Forces at this time. What we really need are state-of-the-art Fighter/Attack aircraft such as the F/A 18D Super Hornets like those being flown by the USN to replace the CF-18A junk that we are flying today. It’s the same old story with the Canadian government ….. buy something with industrial offsets for Bomardier/Canadiar once in a blue moon and don’t bother with little things like upgrades, avionics moderization and anything which will cost more that $1.98 and .. presto … we have a fleet of outdated near-useless junk like our Sea King, Hercules, Buffalo etc etc fleets. Our CF-18s can intercept unknowns in our airspace but don’t expect to operate them outside Canada with an allied force of modern aircraft with modern avionics systems that actually allow the pilots to communicate with their allies. It used to be that NATO and UN forces were more than happy to have Canadian air expertise and performance available to them …… now we are a pain in the ass that they hope won’t show up. Same thing with the Hercs. Great for hauling empty sandbags from Toronto to Winnipeg for flood relief but don’t expect those tired-out, crapped-out old birds to perform in a major operation here or outside Canada. The neglect of our Armed Forces by the Canadian government over the past 20 years is now paying the price. We are capable of doing very little and it is getting worse as each day passes. I only hope a strong man like General Hillier can convince he fat, lazy, we-don’t-give-damn politicians to turn things around.

  30. Any interest on this thread? Martin lied! Martin lied! Martin lied!
    As far as I can see there is not one story in the major Canadian media today on the sending of surplus aroured vehicles and Canadian troops to Senegal, for the benefit of African Union troops who will eventually use the vehicles in Darfur.
    http://www.forces.gc.ca/site/Newsroom/view_news_e.asp?id=1706
    Yet in the middle of May the issue of Canadian military aid for Darfur was all over the media.
    CTV News May 14:
    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1115906977933_111316177/?hub=Canada
    ‘Canadian military personnel and equipment are headed to the war-torn Darfur region of Sudan, as part of a $170-milllion military and humanitarian assistance package announced today…
    As part of his government’s two-year, $170-million pledge, the prime minister said Canada will provide airlift capabilities, humanitarian aid and diplomatic support.
    Up to 100 military personnel will also be dispatched to train local forces, he said…’
    Yet now Canada is sending no personnel or airlift capacity to Darfur. And the vehicles (and training on them) are going via Senegal–hardly what was promised by the PM in May.
    I would think in most other countries these glaring discrepancies would be the subject of considerable media comment. I would also think that at the very least the announcement of the Senegal operation itself would be widely reported.
    What’s up? Why are Canadian troops not going to Darfur? I guess the Sudanese goverment refused its permission. Then on what basis, other than trying to get the vote of David Kilgour, M.P, did Martin make the pledge in the first place?
    Why do the media in Canada only pay attention to an issue when it is politcally hot, and rarely deal with the substance of things? I have some suggested answers. What are yours?
    Mark
    Ottawa

  31. Third terror cell on loose
    TIMES ONLINE ^ | 07/30/05 | David Leppard and John Follain in Rome
    Posted on 07/30/2005 4:34:40 PM PDT by Pikamax
    Third terror cell on loose David Leppard and John Follain in Rome Intelligence warns of new wave against soft targets
    A THIRD Islamist terror cell is planning multiple suicide bomb attacks against Tube trains and other οΏ½softοΏ½ targets in central London, security sources have revealed…
    >>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1453949/posts

  32. Att: Stephen.
    No entry found for anencephalitic.
    Did you mean an encephalitic?
    Suggestions:
    an encephalitic
    an-encephalitic
    anencephalic
    encephalitic
    Antisyphilitic
    antisyphilitic
    No entry was found in the dictionary. Would you like to search the Web for ????

  33. The 9/11 terrorists spent their last night on earth in stripjoints,( I am sure that is ‘significent’ but not sure why.) The bombers in Britain left rental cars with ordnance in them, and they bought return tickets, and left no ‘last words’- so: did they know what they were actually doing- did they really think they were delivering something to be used at a later date?
    The UK has now rounded up and collared every single person related to this ‘incident’- since we now know that these things cannot be predicted- let’s see how long it takes for our own ‘security people’ to do the same thing- AFTER it happens. ( It will not happen in Canada, and I will tell you why: Send your children and their minders here. We will give you: free housing, free medical, free education, etc. (and when you are dealing with over ten thousand people at a time, you can rest assurred that: the fix is in!
    Somebody made a whole lotta money by doing this- but who were they? How did they do this? And why?

  34. OOPS, Maz. I believe I meant to write “anencephalic”, which I remember to mean “without a brain”.
    Come to think of it, that’s ironically funny, isn’t it?
    Hell, nobody’s perfect.

  35. Excellent points, BCer.
    We could purchase the Super Hornets today and worry about the Raptors and JSFs later on. Personally, I would suggest the latter two, as they’re light-years ahead in technology whereas the SHs, while very fine all-around F/As, well, the JSFs are Short Take Off/ Vertical Landing (STOVL) planes and could be quite useful if one can foresee the right circumstances. And the F-22, well, need I sing its many praises? It’s one awesome machine.
    Remember, we must be able, as a real nation, to meet unforseen long-term future challenges as well as present and foreseeable ones. We shouldn’t go about rebuilding our forces in a half-assed manner. The warriors deserve better, as do the citizens. Sure, it’ll cost us a bundle. But the Libranos are already costing us a bundle in terms of waste, inefficiency and programs and foundations few want and that probably don’t really do anything to justify their existence, except as make-work projects for loyal Liberals.
    In a nutshell, we need an up-to-the-minute world-class military. If China’s building its own as if preparing for WWIII, then I submit we, too, must do so, as I believe the SinoCommies may be planning to forcibly take over some new territory, Hitler style, and that simply cannot stand.

  36. The London bombings are forcing the Brits to reexamine the strains caused by multiculturalism as a policy now in its second generation. Specifically, the juxtaposition of certain traditions in Islam and modern, Western open society is provoking an internal crisis in Islam; but it could be argued at the same time that multiculturalism is also creating a crisis in Western society as well. This is not to say that we should become intolerant, but we have to understand that the mixing corporate rights and individual rights is a dangerous idea, and that we are losing all vestiges of a central national identity — and the ability to define and defend that identity — in a wash of infinite cultural relativism, appeasement and apologetics.
    In fact, Canada already had early warning signs of these tensions and stresses on the second generation; who now remembers that Marc Lepine’s real name was Gamil Gharbi?
    From the CBC archives:
    ‘In 1999 the Toronto Star reported that Marc Lepine was born Gamil Gharbi to an Algerian mutual fund salesman who thought “all women were chattels.” The article said Lepine’s father beat him until he bled from the nose and ears and didn’t allow his mother, a nurse and former nun, to console her son. It also reported that Lepine’s mother was often “humiliated, smashed up against walls and beaten.” Lepine changed his name in his teens.’
    http://archives.cbc.ca/IDD-1-70-398/disasters_tragedies/montreal_massacre/

  37. Anencephalopathy is a fetus without a brain and is the usual cause of late-term abortion. Somebody asked, and there you have it.

  38. Actually, the condition is anencephalopathy, which is to be without a brain. There can’t be anencephalitis, because encephalitis is a brain inflammation/swelling, sometimes at birth, or transmitted by mosquitoes. You can’t have anencephalitis because you have to have a brain first. Sorry if it’s convuluted. Back to terror and terrorists – I might have contridicted myself. They could be anencepholpathic, right?

  39. Debbye is back and she is *being an American in TO*
    Anancephalopathy, the word for today. Use it five times today and gain instant professorial status.
    Now if only I could spell. 73s TG

  40. >The 9/11 terrorists spent their last night on earth in stripjoints,( I am sure that is ‘significent’ but not sure why.) The bombers in Britain left rental cars with ordnance in them, and they bought return tickets, and left no ‘last words’- so: did they know what they were actually doing- did they really think they were delivering something to be used at a later date?>
    mohammed atta’s girl friend actually was a stripper-lives in south florida still…ever wonder why ya never saw her interviewed by oprah or barbara wa wa or somesuch?
    the few 9/11 bombers who appear to be who the FBI originally said they were (at least 6 are still alive ’cause someone stole their ID cards and bought airline tickets with ’em-the FBI admits they don’t know for sure who the terrorists were…for some reason not widly reported to the mainstream press)weren’t very good moslems, and weren’t good enough pilots to hit the WTC or pentagon at the speed they were flying…my suspision is they were probably as surprised as anyone on how the day turned out. y’all a bunch of rubes and hicks to believe the official account of 9/11….no shit those english boys found the timers coming up a bit short. can you say “suckers”? sarge knew ya could.
    try googling the words “operation north woods” or “gulf of tonkin incident” or ” FDR, foreknowlege, pearl harbor” to see how the world really works.sarge especially likes operation north woods ’cause its just so 9/11

  41. PS, sarge thinks robert heinlien would have hated lil bush and his evil minions, as he seemed to greatly dislike facism and corporatism and false moralists in general . he was a american libertarian and patriot ya know. my fave heinlein qoute is “love your country but never trust your government”. many here in america wonder if we could solve our energy problems by harnassing the energy of our own founding fathers and informed patriots such as heinlein all spinning in their graves.

  42. It’s Payback time: “frequent fare evaders” profiled at last!!!!!!!
    >>>>>>
    Couple who claimed discrimination ordered to pay $1,000
    VANCOUVER (CP) – A West Vancouver couple who complained about discrimination by a local bus driver has instead been ordered to pay $1000 to the transit system.
    The order is contained in a B.C. Human Rights Tribunal ruling.
    Shamim and Abasali Jiwany launched a complaint with the tribunal alleging that West Vancouver Municipal Transit bus driver Michael Kenny discriminated and used racial slurs against them.
    However witnesses at the hearing backed up the driver, who vehemently denied the allegations.
    Other bus drivers who testified at the hearing called the Jiwanys frequent fare evaders.
    In her ruling tribunal member Tonie Beharrel said she had “serious concerns with the credibility of the Jiwanys,” and ruled it was the couple who had engaged in improper conduct by filing the complaint based on false allegations.
    Beharrel dismissed the complaint and ordered the Jiwanys to pay West Vancouver transit $1,000 for costs and for their improper conduct.
    canoenews

  43. Kofiancephfallacy is the honcho from Africa who had
    the record for the biggest oil blob on the brain; Maurice Strong next;Maddas Saddam has the smallest cellular blob: 4 feet X 6 feet by 10′.
    Sorry, CT coupons not valid exchange at the UN.

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