From the government that ordered the Sidewinder report on Chinese espionage in Canada destroyed;
“A federal government plan to permanently muzzle current and former employees of 14 entities with access to national security information is an affront to press freedom, the Canadian Newspaper Association warns.”
Press freedom is the least of our concerns. Via Frost Hits The Rhubarb who comments;
Then there is the whistleblower legislation designed to protect government, not whistleblowers. Search this site for articles on “whistleblower legislation” — there are good excerpts from Hansard with evidence from whistleblowers. Note that the RCMP will not be covered by this legislation so when they know something explosive, well, guess what? Find out what agencies are NOT allowed to whistleblow. Then you’ll know where to check for more evidence of the kind of thing found in the Gomery Inquiry.
Overview on Sidewinder here.
Damn, this is scary shit.
The Liberals have apparently virtually surrendered Canada to China. The takeover is merely postponed to a later date.
Sidewinder was destroyed probably due to the harm it would’ve done to the Liberals. No way are the Liberals going to round up any Chinese spies and imprison them or deport them- great way to lose Chinese-Canadian votes, right?
This PCness has become dangerous in the extreme. Refusing to stop espionage and protect national security just because the spies are minorities? That is so brainlessly leftist! If the spies were white British nationals, you can bet your life the Liberals would haul ’em out of their homes in their pj’s in the wee hours of the morning!
Damn Librano$! Are we going to lose the country someday? Can’t rule it out as long as those bastards continue to rule.
I have said for years that pc is going to kill this country. To avoid logical decisions and only depend on where the interest group is in the hierarchy is deadly. We talk about ‘equality’ and then make some more equal–especially those friends of the current government. China is in that catagory–Martin, Demarais and Strong can make millions off of China–you think they would chance losing that to protect Canadians? Not bloody likely.
In a letter to the Justice Department — obtained under the Access to Information Act — the newspaper association slammed the idea of more censorship at a time when “public confidence in the government is at an all-time low”. “The argument that matters of national security demand unconditional immunity from public scrutiny is one that must be roundly rebutted,” says the letter, penned by David Gollob, the association’s vice-president of public affairs.
WTF? Speaking as a former employee of an entity with access to national security information I am shocked and outPLEASED BY THIS EXCITING NEW INITIATIVE OF GREAT LEADER MARTIN AND THE GLORIOUS LIBERAL REGIME OF THE VICTIMS REPUBLIC OF NEW CANADA. CLEARLY THE TRANSPARENT TOP PRIORITY ZZZZ…BIGOTS!
Little bit by little bit, Paul Martin is taking away our Charter-guaranteed rights. We barely notice it ’cause he masterminded that great distraction of SSM, among others, in which he made himself look as if he was handing out rights left and right (no pun intended). The right to freedom of religion was taken away simultaneously as Martin rammed SSM down our throats by cheating ever so brazenly and gleefully.
If the Liberals are creating greater freedom, tolerance, diversity and economic prosperity as they always claim they’ve been doing, then could someone tell me why the hell I personally haven’t experienced any of these benefits? I suspect these benefits aren’t universal; rather they’re directed towards voting blocs, the support of whom Liberals wish to attract. Other Canadians can actually sometimes expect the opposite of Liberal claims. I see no increased freedom; quite the opposite. I experience intolerance for my political orientation and for daring to have independent thoughts. Diversity? All I see being promoted are the leftist dogmatic lines of any given day. Economic prosperity? We were better off between 1984 and 1990 under Mulroney, before the global recession of the early nineties hit hard. Today, even with all these years of “recovery”, I see without a doubt that we’re enjoying a LOWER STANDARD OF LIVING. (I’ll forgive my Albertan friends for any surprise or confusion, for they’ve done the right stuff for themselves and prospered despite the Ottawa despots).
I give the Liberal Party of Canada an F- for their performance as government. They’ve flunked big time! Give them the duncecap of opposition status already, damnit!
Not 7 years, nor 14 years, nor 20 years or even 50 years but no public scrutiny for LIFE!?
What the hell is the severity of crimes by the Liberal Party of Canada that there can be no review allowed by Canadians for an extendable virtual lifeime?
Obviously, Martin and the Martinites are building the framework to ensure permanent governance…er control of Canada.
There has always been an expiry time for even the most secret of government manouvers . This special and extraordinary defensive manouver can not be allowed to stand.
Governing Canada from behind closed doors is not how Canadians want to be served by their Federal Government. 73s TG
I think Tony just hit the nail on the head. There is something truly damaging that is being hidden/obscured by the Liberal Party. (note that I didnt say govt)
To muzzle the only people outside of the Liberal party who have knowledge of misdeeds is terribly threatening to the country.
One could hope that the MSM would investigate this but cmon we are all realists here…
So, aside from wringing our hands, what can we do about it? I’m not being sarcastic, I’m curious as to what can be done?
At a Standing Committee on Government Operations and Estimates Brian McAdam, a foreign service officer, testified that he endured fifteen years of retaliations as a result of having spoken up about “negligence and corruption” at the Canadian Consulate in Hong Kong, and about the serious threat that Chinese organized crime and the Chinese government pose to Canada. He described corruption at Canada’s foreign missions under the Liberals as “systemic”, and says that triads have infiltrated Canada’s immigration system and the police.
Now this government of ours, which ordered the Sidewinder report destroyed, wants to forbid, under a penalty of 14 years in prison, anyone from naming spies and persons and groups who have been targeted by Canadian intelligence. Under C-11 up to six-thousand bureaucrats would be affected by the legislation — yes, silenced for life, by law, by this sitting government.
In his testimony McAdam expressed agreement with MP Pat Martin’s description of C-11 as “an act to protect ministers FROM whistle blowers, not an act to protect whistle blowers.” He suggested C-11 be scrapped and replaced with something more like C-205, which deals more effectively with the specific issue of reprisals, threats and harassment of whistleblowers. And who put forward C-205, as a private member’s bill?
Gurmant Grewal.
that’s a great irony!
Meanwhile: Atta;9/11;Able Danger;WTC;Clinton & more: Clinton & his CYA cushion? Strange, indeed.
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Clinton Ignored 1996 Warning On AQ?
While we are realing from the Able Danger blockbuster news, Clinton decides to come out trying to claim he wished he had better information on the USS Cole bombing so he could have acted on Bin Laden. So one has to wonder about this news out from the Dept of State saying they tried to warn Clinton about Bin Laden in 1996, only to be rebuffed:
State Department analysts warned the Clinton administration in July 1996 that Osama bin Laden�s move to Afghanistan would give him an even more dangerous haven as he sought to expand radical Islam �well beyond the Middle East,� but the government chose not to deter the move, newly declassified documents show.
In what would prove a prescient warning, the State Department intelligence analysts said in a top-secret assessment on Mr. bin Laden that summer that �his prolonged stay in Afghanistan – where hundreds of �Arab mujahedeen� receive terrorist training and key extremist leaders often congregate – could prove more dangerous to U.S. interests in the long run than his three-year liaison with Khartoum,� in Sudan.
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Before the East Africa bombings in 1998, however, Mr. bin Laden �wasn�t recognized then as the threat he is now,� Mr. Ereli said. �Yes, he was a bad guy, he was a threat, but he was one of many, and by no means of the prominence that he later came to be.�
In other words we did not foresee the damage he could do, or wanted to do.
What is going on here? Why are we getting swamped with stories that are shattering the Clinton era alibis regarding the build up of Al Qaeda which led to 9-11??
And why did Clinton feel the need to pad his CYA cushion? Strange.
Posted by AJStrata on Wednesday, August 17th, 2005 at 12:14 am
G. Grewal, MP, was mentioned above.
Last post by Andrew Coyne before libel chill imposed on him by unknowns: suspect, of course, is Reid, Murphy, AdScam Martin and AdScam Martin’s office.
The Librano$ regime is forging a police state, bit by bit, in this land once called Canada. >>>>>
You can almost hear them winking
�You have to be able to say that I did not make a deal. That�s very important. That�s why these kinds of deals are not made in that fashion.�
What a fount of wisdom is Ujjal Dosanjh. The Minister of Health — for that is his day job — is practically unstoppable as he explains to Gurmant Grewal how �these kinds of deals are not made.� What kinds of deals? The deals that are not made. Like the deal that was not made with Mr. Grewal in exchange for his vote in the Commons.
�Nobody will make you totally blunt promises,� Mr. Dosanjh advises in the first of their recorded discussions, �because that is not done in politics, usually.� Promises, perhaps, but not totally blunt ones. Usually. Later he is joined by Tim Murphy, the Prime Minister�s chief of staff, who lectures Mr. Grewal on the important of �honesty, faith and trust,� as exemplified by, well, Mr. Dosanjh, who took a risk leaving the provincial NDP for the Liberals, but whose �faith was rewarded.�
Mr. Dosanjh then takes up the theme. �I think what Tim is saying about trust is that most of these things do have our trust and you have to feel comfortable and that at the end, of course if the chief of staff says that certain conduct ought to be rewarded in due time that trust is kept 99.9% of the time.�
And, still later: �I�m sure rewards are there at some point, right. No one can forget such gestures but they require a certain degree of deniability.� [Laughs].
There�s no deal, you understand. It�s just that �certain conduct ought to be rewarded.� Mind you, before they can talk to the Prime Minister, �we need to have a deal in place. We should have a deal in place here and the leader, simply, actually formally okays it.� Er, wait a minute, forget I said that. �I do not care to use deal as a language,� he says, on the now familiar principle laid down by Mr. Murphy in the previously released portions of the tapes — that when someone asks, if there�s a deal, and you say no, you want that to be the truth. �But,� Mr. Dosanjh goes on, �I think we all understand what we are talking about.�
Oh indeed we do. You can practically hear them winking. If, as everyone from the Prime Minister on down maintains, there were �no offers� made to Mr. Grewal, they have a funny way of saying so. If the transcript is an accurate rendering of their conversations — and Mr. Dosanjh denies that they are — it is simply no longer possible to pretend that senior Liberals firmly rebuffed Mr. Grewal�s persistent demands, or that Mr. Grewal repeatedly refused �to take no for an answer.� In all the four hours of tapes, he is never given no for an answer even once. He is given infinite variations of maybe — albeit with a 99.9% probability of yes.
A Cabinet job �may be possible,� even �right away.� And as for Mrs. Grewal�s hopes of a Senate appointment, well, that, as Mr. Murphy says at one point, is �a challenge.�
Why is that? Because offering an MP (for so she is) a Senate appointment in exchange for their vote would be illegal? Because even to hint at such a deal would be unethical? No, because as the ever-helpful Mr. Dosanjh explains, �next six months, if one goes to Senate, you lose the numbers. This is the game of numbers.� And besides, Mr. Murphy adds, there�s only the one B.C. seat vacant, �and our problem is that we have already talked to someone� about it. Darn.
Throughout, they are strangely solicitous of the MP they were so busy rebuffing. The go-between who arranged the meetings between Mr. Dosanjh and Mr. Grewal, Sudesh Kalia, calls and tells Mr. Grewal that �[the] minister called and asked me if I have spoken to you.� Mr. Kalia calls again the next day to tell him that Mr. Dosanjh �called me 6 a.m.� And called �twice again.�
Mr. Kalia keeps calling with news of more calls from Mr. Dosanjh. �Make sure you wait for his call after 3 pm.� No, wait, �take his cell number… call him right now, he is waiting for your call… no, no call him right now, he is waiting for your call… He says please tell him to call me. Make sure you call him, he is keeping his cell phone on, which he normally does not.� (So you see: Mr. Grewal did call Mr. Dosanjh first!)
As for Mr. Murphy, in the last of his meetings with Mr. Dosanjh, he is apologetic for arriving late, grateful for the tea, sympathetic about his Blackberry issues, anxious to hear what Mr. Grewal thinks about �one of� his �proposals,� and full of praise for the �principled� position that Mr. Grewal is about to take. Does that sound like someone brushing off a pest? And when, towards the end of their encounter, Mr. Grewal refers repeatedly to having been approached by a third party, does he say no? No, he says yes. Over and over again.
For as Mr. Kalia advises Mr. Grewal in one of his first calls, �they are the ones who need you.�
Candace – Hand wringing aside – there really is nothing we can do except hope for an election and pray that recent polling stats have been skewed. (I keep hoping all those Lib friendly polls have been conducted exclusively in Hamilton East)
Disturbing.
All I can say is those who think that there is no threat to the western world and our small part of it are delusional.
It was Sidewinder that sounded the first alarm bells that China is one of the greatest ongoing threats to Canada’s national secu…
The Federal government muzzling it’s minions with big threats of imprisonment is more beating of swords on shields than anything real.
Firstly, this is a country where raping and murdering might get you a couple of years.
Secondly, the law of averages dictates that some of these “sworn to secrecy” people will talk when either their consciences tell them to or when the price is right. Remember, Canadians are very easily bought off.
Thirdly, the only things that are of any importance at all in North America is what the USA decides to do about what goes on in North America.
Finally … swearing an oath used to have some validity when there was belief in an invisible deity who held sway in your after life, but since Canada is now a secular organization, what is the value of an oath. I would think that what we would actually have is a “promise” to be quiet and we all now the value of promise in Ottawa.
Meanwhile back and mulitcultural dude ranch …
Regarding the apparent long range well planned slow, but sure take over of the world by China …. while we are busy dealing with Allah’s maniacs screaming “death to the west”, the Chinese are moving slowly toward world domination. The irony is that when they have all the plugs in all the sockets .. the Allah boys will simply be taken out pell mell.
We could do that … but we won’t … because we’re nice.
What may become of our society or what’s left of it … we will be the second and third class citizens of the world and desevidly so … any society that won’t defend itself, deserves to go down.
Enjoy the ride folks … your grand children will curse you, because by the time they have their run on the big crazy, ‘nice’ will an irrelevant term.
Yes Duke, I agree with the general thrust of your view.
It is refreshing to see someone take notice of the ruthless advances the leaders of China are making.
The people of China are OK. As usual, it’s the gang running the country who are going for unfair adavntage.
On a level playing field, we can all be better off exchanging goods and services. We look forward to fair wage rates in China so more people can afford to buy our products as we buy theirs.
When the local China owned dollar store sells ten dollar computer cables for one dollar, one gets the impression the playing field is still far from level.
In a sense, you are saying, *wake up Canadians and get a grip.*
Time to skip the *lowest price* and buy a little more Canadian and American made product.
Time to buy a GM or Chrysler / Jeep product instead of the import car from anywhere.
China will do very well in the world market place without our total devotion.
I have been walking in Canadian / American made leather shoes lately. They cost more, but my feet feel great. *Rubber shoes will damage your eyesight?*
My Jeep is keeping me pretty happy too. It’s an ’87, but it still looks newish. I could trade it in on a newer Jeep, but why waste the money. Newer cars don’t impress anyone anymore anyway. I’ll wait till something goes wrong with it before I move up to a snazzy ’94 model.
Ooops… going sideways here. Back on topic. Sparks are sure going to be flying in September when the beginning of the end starts closing in on the Libscammer party.
In the meantime, for anyone who doubts China’s aggressive advances on Canada, one only needs to Google terms like China+Canada or China+merger or other China+* terms specific to your industrial interest or job.
I get many China origin Emails asking if I care to be a sales agent of Craft products, Art products, or how about a China based server for mass marketing or bulk hosting… only $655 monthly.
It’s OK to be aggressive marketers, but to keep stamping out copies of expensive trademarked products and software bundles, one wonders when the China government is going to *go honest* and gain respect in the world marketplace.
Looking forward to fair play. 73s TonyGuitar
Tony, you gotta be kidding! You said: “Newer cars don’t impress anyone anymore anyway.”
Dude, how about the 300C SRT-8? How about all those twin-turbo V12 Mercedes land missiles? How about the future Maybach Exelero? THIS is the golden age of the automobile, as far as I’m concerned.
Not to mention the 1,000 hp Bugatti EB 16-4 Veyron…
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Knowledge is power. Did I read that the PMPM is having his CP ships built in China? Maybe it was Haiti – I forget. Dosen’t matter. That is the kind of devoted Canadian ‘we, the people'(taxpayers) would choose to represent ‘our ‘ country; isn’t it?
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