A Canadian Forces sniper who set a distance record by killing an al-Qaida fighter from more than two kilometres away has quit in frustration and may go into mercenary work.
Master Cpl. Arron Perry made national headlines twice in 2002: the first was anonymous, after he shot an al-Qaida fighter in Afghanistan from 2,430 metres, a world record.
The second was public and ugly. Perry, 33, and a 13-year veteran, was accused of discreditable conduct after he allegedly cut the finger off an al- Qaida corpse, defecated on another and then had his picture taken with a corpse that had a lit cigarette hanging from his lips and a sign around his neck reading “F**k Terrorism.”
Now, had Cpl. Perry been thinking, he’d have burned those bodies and hung them from a bridge, or strapped explosives to his chest and taken out one of their schools- acts that, as we all now know, would have been seized upon by the Western media and broadcast to the world as sobering evidence of the futility of resisting the Canadian Armed Forces.
Good luck in your future endeavors, Cpl. Perry and congratulations to whoever is fortunate enough to acquire your talents.
Oct. 2006 update: Multiple media reports crediting Perry with the record turned out to be inaccurate. Rob Furlong made the shot, but desired anonymity. See this May 2006 Macleans article for the followup.
Godspeed Master Cpl. Arron Perry. You are a true Canadian hero.
Tommy
I went into a public-‘ouse to get a pint o’ beer,
The publican ‘e up an’ sez, “We serve no red-coats here.”
The girls be’ind the bar they laughed an’ giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an’ to myself sez I:
O it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, go away”;
But it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it’s “Thank you, Mister Atkins”, when the band begins to play.
I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but ‘adn’t none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-‘alls,
But when it comes to fightin’, Lord! they’ll shove me in the stalls!
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, wait outside”;
But it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide,
The troopship’s on the tide, my boys, the troopship’s on the tide,
O it’s “Special train for Atkins” when the trooper’s on the tide.
Yes, makin’ mock o’ uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an’ they’re starvation cheap;
An’ hustlin’ drunken soldiers when they’re goin’ large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin’ in full kit.
Then it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, ‘ow’s yer soul?”
But it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it’s “Thin red line of ‘eroes” when the drums begin to roll.
We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, fall be’ind”,
But it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind,
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind.
You talk o’ better food for us, an’ schools, an’ fires, an’ all:
We’ll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don’t mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow’s Uniform is not the soldier-man’s disgrace.
For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!”
But it’s “Saviour of ‘is country” when the guns begin to shoot;
An’ it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ anything you please;
An’ Tommy ain’t a bloomin’ fool — you bet that Tommy sees!
— Rudyard Kipling
Come over Captain. There are plenty of “Security Contractors” waiting to pay you exorbitant sums of money this side of the border.
Gotta hand it to you Kate. You know which side you’re on and not afraid to stand up and say so.
Any bets that he offers his services to the Americans?
Godspeed Master Cpl. Arron Perry.
The shot was great–but his other actions are despicable. There was no need to behave in that manner and I am ashamed that a Canadian would be so vicious. What kind of person lowers himself to this level? He is no better than those we are fighting to show how great democracy is.
He set himself up as judge jury and executioner–has he the proof that this was an al Qaida fighter, or is this more of the same as the subway murder in Britain.
He should fit in well with the Americans–he has the mindset for killing–but we are supposed to be introducing democracy–not John Wayne mentality. Good riddance!
Oh, Georgie, if your demands for proof that someone’s AQ are the rule by which our warriors operate, then AQ will win, and you know it.
As for who would stoop to that level, it’s the terrorists. They chop off the heads of clearly innocent civilians on TV. The sniper in the story isn’t like that. A dead terrorist is… what? Does a dead minion of the devil deserve more respect than a live, innocent civilian?
But that’s just the way I see it. After all, war is war, and different people deal with it differently.
George, when Canada gets in trouble in the future, and it will, from any number of natural or man-made disasters, do you think we should ask the Americans or Ottawa to help us? Who do you think would respond the quickest?
And what has Canada done lately for introducing democracy to the world. Just asking.
By George, how I hate the moral equivalence bull: “He is no better than those we are fighting…”
“Desecrating” enemy corpses is the same as mass murder, eh, Georgie boy?
God bless Master Cpl. Arron Perry! No politicaly correct bullshit here.
Fuck terrorists AT HOME AND ABROAD!!!
Never send a P.C.pussy to do a man’s job.
God Bless our former AIRBORNE regiment.
“God Bless our former AIRBORNE regiment.”
Oh, yeah, these guys:
http://www.dnd.ca/somalia/vol2/v2c20be.htm
I feel a moral equivalency argument coming on.
Dr Dawg: I saw Gen. Lew Mackenzie, August 21, on CPAC (tape) speaking to the Couchiching Conference recently. He noted that, when people have gone to Belet Huen since the Airborne left, the local people still ask hopefully when the “Airborne” (specifically) are coming back. What was done was horrible but, with any sense of proportion, not worth the over-reaction–including the abolition of the Airborne.
Mark
Ottawa
These Islamic “militants”, PC for Islamic murderers, are specimens of the sub-human murderers Cpl. Perry shot. Notice one woman is still in their murderous clutches.Guess why? Ransom? or an other use? What will be her fate? No pity for murderers. Thank you, Cpl. Perry, for your valour and marksmanship.
sunday, august 21, 2005
RoP Strikes in Algeria
Islamic Militants Kill 6 Hikers in Algeria.
Islamic militants killed six hikers in a forest in eastern Algeria, local security forces said Saturday.
Victims had their throats slit in the Friday attack in the forests of Ravin Bleu in the Batna region, about 330 miles east of Algiers, the security forces said.
The attackers accosted a group of a dozen hikers and took their valuables. Those who were not killed were briefly abducted. All but one woman were released, and authorities were searching the area, the officials said…>>> LGF
Dr. Dawg: Wrong date for broadcast–Aug. 20.
Mark
Ottawa
sarge seen this sort of thing before. this boy is crazier than a bedbug. its only a short step to pulling gold teeth outta the corpses, er perhaps a little necrophilia. sarge is glad to see at least a few canadain folks still want a professional military. the rest of ya, well…
Boy am I bad on this. Actual broadcast date was Friday, Aug. 19.
Sorry,
Mark
Ottawa
The investigation into the discreditable conduct charges was dropped.
Good luck into your future endeavors; I’m sure the Us military could use a few GOOD men, not unlike the Canadian Unarmed Farces.
If we act like the terrorists, what are we–by extension–we are also terrorists.
You cannot defend behaving in a like manner and calling one side good and one side terrorists.
As for the US ‘helping’ us–they helped Saddam, they helped Iran, they helped Noriega–look where they are today–God help anyone that the USA ‘helps’!
The best part of the whole story… the part that has me f’in PUMPED all day,
“His unit was so effective that their American counterparts wanted to work with them whenever possible, and some observers have credited them with almost single-handedly getting Canada onto the list of countries targeted for al-Qaida revenge.”
If that sentence won’t bring a smile to your face and a tear to your eye, what will?
Long Live Good Knight Perry
George, I’d become worried about the conduct of men in the field when the national media drops their scrupulously “neutral” position when it comes to atrocities committed by the enemy.
Frankly, I rather wish we could go back to engagement rules of a few decades ago when our military simply rounded up captured Nazis and shot them, nevermind worrying about whether folks back home would hear that they’d stuck a cigarette in their mouths after the fact.
Yeah, what she said…..
I’m shocked and dismayed to learn that members of the Canadian armed forces have been defecating on the corpses of killed Al Qaeda fighters. Talk about a waste of perfectly good fertilizer.
Well-put, Kate.
I wish the left could understand that to succeed in anything, one has to do what works. If one brainlessly does what the left tells them to do, one will fail. So what if one goes back to the past to find what works? It works, doesn’t it? Leftism doesn’t.
If people don’t like to see the horrors of war and how those engaged directly in it deal with the extreme shocks, then turn off the TV and thank the warriors for keeping the evil murderers from coming over here. Wait; they’re here already, and the Librano$ want to obsess over PCness rather than uphold our constitutional right to security of the person. The Librano$ and Paul Martin are failures as government for this refusing to uphold the constitution. I move for impeachment.
sarge thinks kate woulda loved old jochime peiper, the german officer who excecuted all those unarmed american boys at the battle of the bulge-we should pine for the days of battlefield expedience, and think of the incentive to keep fighting for our troopers who might want to surrender in the face of insurmountable odds… sh@t, since surrender is no real man’s option anyway,why don’t we go one further and get our boys some nice suicide bomb vests, in case things go badly. in fact, why don’t we just be done with that old geneva convention. the american AG tells us its all outdated anyway. sure that may result in a bit of tit for tat, but if it aint yer defenceless son or brother what gets snuffed out in some prison camp or fetid ditch, what difference could it make?
Sean, I would suggest that the AQ corpses would themselves make excellent fertilizer, so if the victors want to make doody on them, let them. Fertilizer on fertilizer…
BTW, what’s worse, isolated incidents of going poopie on justly slain murderers or what happened on 9/11?
Big, fat, hairy difference, mon ami. We must take it upon ourselves to toughen up and gain real perspective. We don’t have to say PC stuff just so people will like us.
Oh yeah, he forgot to bury someone’s children alive because of some misdeed by the father.
There’s the spirit, sarge!
sarge ought to try capital letters.
sarge. I’d love to have a professional military to be proud of. Even a few smaller elite units that have the latest helicopter gunships for drop-in and backup support would be something to be proud of. In the scheme of things, how much would that cost?
How many Canadians have died giving us the freedoms we enjoy today? Add to that all the Americans, British and other allies who have died to give us the same freedoms over the last two world wars.
I hate it when people criticize something they haven’t experienced or don’t know anything about, all the time enjoying the comforts and freedoms they take for granted.
I was too young to fight in WWII. But I remember going down to the park in Essex Ontario and burning the effigy of Hitler a few times, and then listening to the grownups reading out the names of their sons and family members who they just learned were killed in the war.
It isn’t a political thing. Look at Blair and Bush. It simply comes down to whether you love your country. Most people on the left in America and Canada, as well as Europe, don’t appear to love their country very much.
The world doesn’t owe any of us a damn thing. If we have something good going, and we do in Canada, then we have to be prepared to defend it. Otherwise someone is going to come in and take it all away. That was what I was referring to when I asked George how long he thought it would take Ottawa or the Americans to help us in a crisis. Photo ops not included. I notice he didn’t answer the question.
I agree with Kate. Interrogate ’em and then kill them. That’s what our f**king enemies do to us. Listen to some of our war heroes talking about what the Japanese did to Canadian prisoners of war. I just wish America would drop a few more of those big bombs on a few bastards I can think of today. The world would be a better place.
John asked: “sarge. I’d love to have a professional military to be proud of. Even a few smaller elite units that have the latest helicopter gunships for drop-in and backup support would be something to be proud of. In the scheme of things, how much would that cost?”
Not a whole lot in relative terms. I would suggest that when Stephen Harper becomes PM he should recapture all the billions squirrelled away in vague Librano foundations which are out of reach of Auditor General Fraser and use the money to buy new, state-of-the-art war machines for the Forces. I suspect there’s far more eye-opening corruption wrt the unaccountable multibillion dollar foundations than we’ve seen in Adscam, the HR and Gun Registry boondoggles, etc. I look forward to the day the Libs get bounced out of the saloon of power and their treasure trove given back to Canada.
Does anyone here know that the Japanese during WWII actually had a nuclear bomb project going and nearly finished and would have used any number of nukes? I watched an History Channel documentary last night about exactly this. One nuke lab was in Japan and one in North Korea. The Americans, of course, bombed the Japanese factory, a lucky but unknowing strike, prior to Hiroshima. Destroyed the actual bomb equipment. The Soviets, after the war, captured all technology and scientists from the facilities in North Korea. All this only recently, in 2001, came to public light by the widow of a former Japanese scientist who emigrated to America in 1949 with the only documentation which hadn’t been destroyed by the Japanese following their surrender.
If the Americans had sat on their hands following Pearl Harbor and not entered the war, then what would’ve happened? Would the Japanese and the Nazis have captured all of Europe and North America following their own atomic bombing of us?
There’s a lesson in this. Canada has failed to learn from it and I fear she’ll regret this failure in the future. If she lives. Wonder what would’ve happened if Bush hadn’t began the war on terror following 9/11 and also invaded Iraq? The preemptive strikes against violent enemies are necessary, to hell with the dogmas of leftist appeaseniks, from Chamberlain to Kerry and Chretien and Martin!
What? He forgot to wrap the corpses in pig’s guts? He’s fired!
http://www.parapundit.com/archives/000507.html
http://www.bangsamoro.com/news/070203_a.php
Stephen. “I look forward to the day the Libs get bounced out of the saloon of power and their treasure trove given back to Canada.”
In my opinion this is very easy to orchestrate. So easy in fact that it isn’t even challenging. This is how to do it, in a nutshell. And I’m serious here.
Play the same game the Liberals have played with the threat of Quebec separation. Call it the Alberta card.
1. Elect a provincial party in Alberta with a platform that includes separation. Even a serious threat of separation would be enough. Last I heard they’d have the support of about 39% of voters.
2. Tell Ottawa and all their backers in Ontario that the game is over if things don’t change.
3. Give them a list of things that have to change.
4. Tell the Liberals in Ottawa you won’t deal with them because you no longer consider they speak for Canada. This will force a federal election.
5. Ramp up your PR department and start sending out regular releases outlining the plans you’re making and the support you have at home.
It won’t be long before people in Ontario and elsewhere start looking at options other than the Liberals.
No need to argue or hold back any equalization payments when this is going on. It won’t last long.
It would certainly work if it happens, and it could happen if Ontario and Quebec keep the Libs in power regardless of everything.
After all, if it can work for Quebec, it can certainly work for Alberta. And I believe Alberta’s ultimata, when given, will have greater credibility as the impact of Alberta independence would have far, far greater impact on the ROC, Ottawa and certainly the Libs.
I cannot dismiss the concept, as I’ve seen it in action wrt Quebec.
We are supposed to be the good guys.
Sometimes the best solution to a problem is the simplest one. As for comparing Quebec separation to Alberta separation there really is no comparison. Quebec could never afford to go it alone. Alberta could afford to not only afford to go it alone but also take it’s portion of Canada’s national debt without any argument.
I think the simple threat, if it’s a real one, would be enough to straighten out this country.
I’d love to make up that list. I’d just consult all you people. Wouldn’t take more than, what, a Sunday afternoon?
rebarbarian: The Nazis and Japanese and Soviet Communists also thought they were the “good guys”. Good guys can sometimes behave badly or cruelly, but to be, in the long run, the good guys they had better behave better than the bad guys.
Mark
Ottawa
�It is time to implement Islamic law in Bangladesh. There is no future with man-made law.�
Sums up what we’re up against rather nicely… no?
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_18-8-2005_pg7_3
The comments on this page show how democracy works.
Freedom of speach is something we all take for granted.. I truly believe that unless you serve abroad with the armed forces you are NOT qualified to criticize events from your lazy boy. Mind you very few Canadians will ever serve abroad and dont know what happens in the real world.
The Liberal/NDP/CBC tells them what happens with a political correctness, anti American/Israeli slant and reminds Canadians how to react and think .
John wrote: “It won’t be long before people in Ontario and elsewhere start looking at options other than the Liberals.”
John, I really don’t think that would happen, ‘cuz Ontarians would have to buy a clue.
Gomery proved to me that a significant number of Ontarians will vote Liberal no matter what happens – fiscal mismanagement, widespread theft – heck, Uncle Pauly could be caught on tape killing a baby and the polling numbers would still be 35-27-18.
No, I think Ontarians, led by their masters at the CBC, The Toronto Globe, and The Star would ramp up the name-calling – you know the drill: Albertans are cowboys/rednecks, they’re practically Americans, they aren’t sophisticated like us central Canadians.
It would only be when the money stopped pouring in that a few “oh shits!” would be heard.
“Sean, I would suggest that the AQ corpses would themselves make excellent fertilizer, so if the victors want to make doody on them, let them.”
Y’see, I was planning on feeding the AQ corpses to some pigs, and the pigs refuse to eat anything with soldier doody all over them. It annoys me when a minor indignity gets in the way of performing the more deserved major indignity.
“It would only be when the money stopped pouring in that a few “oh shits!” would be heard.”
You made my point.
Not really. They’d still vote Liberal.
What does he mean there is no use for his talents in Canadar. I can think of a few targets.
“A military ombudsman’s investigation was launched into whether Perry and other snipers, who were seconded to an American unit to provide cover fire and support, were unfairly treated after their return from Afghanistan.”
Is that the same ombudsman that the Opposition couldn’t get the Libs to pick someone OTHER than a bureaucrat this spring?
Gee, I wonder how the report will read… “Shades of Khaki”
Mississauga Matt. Well, then they’d be broke Liberals. Do you really mean they would still vote Liberal after having some or most of their perks and freebees cut off becasue Ottawa can no longer afford them all? If that’s the case then that would be the last push Albertans would need I suppose. If that happens what do you think they’ll say when Ontario businesses begin moving to Alberta?
Kudos to Perry for his marksmanship. For shame for collecting finger trophies from his marks. It’s extremely unprofessional.
…and saying that it’s not as bad as blowing up schools or beheading journalists etc. doesn’t change it.
“For shame for collecting finger trophies from his marks. It’s extremely unprofessional”.
Exactly! Professionals cut off EARS! What WAS that boy thinking??
The Mafia collects finger trophies from those who cross them.
Sean, pigs will not eat just anything. They won’t eat dead terrorists, with or without soldier doody on them. There are things even a pig won’t do, after all…
Moonbats, however, will gobble up anything… just like Tasmanian Devils… in fact, I have observed squirrels behind the coffee factory where I work actually eating garbage from the dumpster… they ignore the peanuts I give them and proceed to consume virtually anything.
tommy2,
cutting the fingers off a dead guy is hardly comparable to massacring innocent living people. Unprofessional? probably, but who really cares? Did the dead terrorist complain? Maybe you’d have a point if he cut off the terrorists fingers and left the guy to bleed to death, but even then I wouldn’t have a lot of sympathy for a TERRORIST!