Caller to John Gormley Live;
“How is it that the same Finance Minister* who knew nothing about Sponsorship now knows everything about Income Trust trading?”
Caller to John Gormley Live;
“How is it that the same Finance Minister* who knew nothing about Sponsorship now knows everything about Income Trust trading?”
Maybe, like freedom, you don’t lose elections…you give it away.
CTV.ca has PMPM backing “Ralphie” all the way, also another Lineral in deep for comments, David Emerson calls Jack Layton “boiled dog head smiling”, a big time insult.
There’s an old maxim in the newspaper business. “If it bleeds, it leads”
Which is why Ralph Goodale is the lead story on the front page of every major newspaper in the country this morning.
watch the pm closely, he refers to his scripted noted numerous times, both in fr. & eng.After his response has been said he leaves, allowing for no questions from reporters.
“There are 30 million reasons to vote Liberal.”
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ….
here are 30 billion reasons not to (or “how the CPC will fund the military”)
http://wakinguponplanetx.blogspot.com/2005/12/it-just-keeps-getting-better.html
Mr. Harper on CBC just got the name of PMPM’s private doctor and Income Trust Fund: Medisys.
He had said this last night on CPAC but this morning it was not on the CBC portion of his report. Good on him for not letting this one slide to the side.
I am really encouraged, but also wary, that perhaps even the heavily NDP supporting BC, will see the light, and vote for Harper.. I was never able to figure out why the folks that voted for the Reform, then the Alliance, would abandon the consolidation of all into the Conservatives. Just viewed Harper on CBC.. good job, also he relaxed more, seemed to connect with the press, and even got some applause. The tide is turning? And the Liberal chum are running? Looking better and better..
Unfortunately the collective Canadian memory is just too short. Bet you a dollar to a stale donut that Paul Martin is re-elected. There will be the investigation, we may even get to see an “inquiry”. However, nothing will come as a result. This too will pass, and the Liberals will continue to stumble on…
Matt,
I just had an idea. How much money did the Liberals actually swindle from the trough? Was it 35 million?
So in response to the motto “30 million reasons to vote liberal” one could say:
“$35 million reasons NOT to vote liberal.”
Just saw Harper on CBC giving a statement and then answering questions. Good job. Relaxed and specific.
My thoughts… When things start falling apart in a political campaign of determined and finite length it is almost impossible to stem the tide, and it is absolutely impossible to get the ball rolling in your direction again in such a short timeframe. The Liberal party is toast. In fact, they are not only toast, they are burnt to a crisp.
We are witnessing the self-destruction of a once proud and important force on the Canadian political scene.
This is not a political happening. It is simply one of corruption, the inducing and accelerating of putrefaction in an organization that is not unlike an organized crime family. We should not lose sight of this important fact. The Liberal Party of Canada has been shown, by their own actions, to be an organized crime family active at the highest level of Canadian politics in my opinion.
Canada has one more opportunity to rid itself of this cancer when they go to the polls on January 23, 2006. If they do not then Alberta will. In either case this is a “fait compli”.
Good riddance!
Via Bourque >>
AdScam CSL Martin & the Librano$ Stripping Canada’s Tax Base>>> Looting Your Taxes>>>>>
Corruption Inc. >>
As far back as 1992, the Auditor General was able to conclude that �it is reasonable to conclude that hundreds of millions of dollars in tax revenue have already been lost and will continue to be at risk.� [7] Canadian FDI in Barbados has risen from just $496 million in 1987 to over $30 billion in 2004. That is an approximately 6000% increase. In 2002, the Auditor General noted that �tax arrangements for foreign affiliates continue to erode Canadian tax revenue.� [8]
You would think that if hundreds of millions, if not billions, of dollars were being lost, the Ministry of Finance would have taken action, especially given its constant calls for belt-tightening in the 1990s. Far from it. Paul Martin�s own company, Canada Steamship Lines International, set up offices in Barbados and replaced the Canadian flag with the Liberian flag on its maritime fleet. [9] While at Finance, Paul Martin managed to do the following things at once: slash social spending dramatically; stop flying the Canadian flag on his ships; personally profit from a known tax loophole he refused to close; and see his company receive $161 million in government contracts. [10] This is an embarrassment, not leadership.
Here�s the kicker. In September of 2003, the Bloc submitted a motion that �in order to ensure tax equity, the government should terminate Canada�s tax convention with Barbados, a tax haven, which enables wealthy Canadian taxpayers and companies to avoid their tax obligations, and should play a leadership role at the international level in activities to eliminate tax havens.� [11] Despite both NDP and Conservative support, the Liberals voted the motion down.
It is scandalous the Liberal Prime Minister continues to knowingly allow his own enterprise and those of his corporate friends evade taxes. The Canada-Barbados tax agreement can be ended without sanction. It should be torn up. It may be good for a lucky clutch of wealthy men, but it�s bad for Canada, and it seriously calls into question the supposed virtues of FDI.>>>
http://inakimondragon.blogspot.com/2005/10/fdi-and-barbados-travesty_27.html
maz2…
do you think this will ever hit the MSM ? its only been around for about 10 years.
Entrails read; the Oracle speaks:
http://www.thiscanada.com/2005/12/29/the-lost-art-of-entrail-reading/
Enjoy, Erik
Just caught CBC’s Kathleen Petty about to go into detail about Emerson’s comments when she was cut off, music and logo appear, then back to Petty talking about US floods or some such nonsense. I’m not certain, but I thought she was about to go to an NDP person re the comments, or a guest of some sort before the REALLY REALLY BAD EDIT. Just think how much more tax cutting can be done when the Tories have the CBC budget at their disposal. No doubt Mr. harper will want the auditor general to take a bo-peep at the CBC file.
Hey Kate, I sent you an E-mail with a funny airplane, feel free to post it if you like.
Now I’m really baffled – some commentator on the CBC accused the NDP & Conservatives of starting to use negative campaigning tactics. And now in his words we’re going to see 3 1/2 weeks of garbage instead of just 3! Does this mean the smears used by the Liberal officials in the preceding weeks don’t count? Just more arrogance.
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Ok. I admit, I am a conservative.
While not a member before this morning, I have voted PC or CPC in the last few federal elections. I live in the riding of St. Paul’s in downtown Toronto which has been held for the last while by a Carolyn Bennett, Liberal MP.But thats it. I have only voted thus.
Until now.At 9:01 this morning I became a member of the Conservative Party of Canada, and I just wanted to share my reasons.
Last night around dinner time, one of Ms. Bennett’s campaigners came to my door. She then proceeded to tell me about Carolyn and then began to talk about her Conservative opponent, Peter Kent.The campaigner then told me that Peter Kent is anti-Israel. Not only that, but she pointed out that Peter has never supported the cause of Israel and that he has always come across to her as anti-semetic.I know this to be completely untrue, as I have spoken to Peter several times about this issue.
I just could not stand the hypocrasy of this anymore so I bit the bullet and joined the Conservatives. I will now be actvely campaigning against Ms. Bennett and her lying attack dogs.The Liberals are quick to attack the CPC on matter os Israel, and we need to stop the lying.
And so, I launch Bennett Watch. I refuse to stand by and let her spread lies. Its one thing to campaign, its another to smear. >>>
http://bennettwatch.blogspot.com/2005/12/ok.html
via newsbeat1.com
CBC website headline: PM backs Goodale despite RCMP probe
I sent them an email, for whatever that is worth:
The RCMP have launched a Criminal Investigation not a “probe”. Please – give it to Canadians straight and report the facts – not some watered-down spin.
One of the things I am curious about is who is getting paid back through the vehicle of this manipulation of this Income Trust.
In the mob sometimes when a favor is owed they will fix a horse race and tell the beneficiary what race is being fixed. Then the beneficiary can bet on the horse and take home a nice payday. And guess what? Nobody can ever connect the beneficiary with the people who fix the horse race, as no obvious money changed hands.
In this case you have market manipulation and you have some people who know about the manipulation so that they can profit handsomely from it (probably through some offshore accounts that can’t be traced back to them). So someone can be paid back for a big favor without any trail leading to the exchange.
You’ll recall that (to my knowledge) no one ever investigated the big mafia sitdown in Canada to ascertain the names of other participants besides Gagliano. As a consequence, no one ever became publicly aware of political connections to other Bonnano members.
In Canada there seems to be a rich tradition of public servants being able to carry out dealings away from the public eye.
One question is who was being paid off, and what were they being paid off for? Another question would be how many times in the past has this device been used to give someone a payoff?
Its up to the people of Saskatchewan to dump Ralph.
Its up to the people of Edmonton to dump
“Annie’s gotcher Gun”
To Greg (Outside Dallas)
Your allegation to the horse race is apt but however doesn’t deal with the enormity of the present situation in Canada. If anything is proven in the IT scandal and it will cause a meltdown of the TSX and God alone knows where that could lead. The one thing about a true democracy is that the people elected to public office must know that there are enough checks and balances to force them to stay honest. In this country there are now not only questions concerning the reliability of the checks and balances but also about the reliability of the investigating authorities, (RCMP and OSC). Trust in a public system can take decades to earn it can be destroyed in the blink of an eye by a single greedy individual. I hope and pray that we can get to the root of this scandal and suitably punish those responsible without sacrificing our system.
I hope this thing drags on – lord knows the MSM is doing very little digging. I’d like to see forensic auditor Al Rosen get the gig; that guy takes no B.S.
The latest blog from columnist Leo Knight:
“Thursday, December 29, 2005
Martin spins to defend Minister under the gun
Prime Minister Paul Martin’s spirited defense of embattled Finance Minister Relph Goodale is admirable in his loyalty to a trusted lieutenant but certainly nothing but an attempt at sinning a bad situation.
While speaking to the media, Martin said, “I believe that an investigation, as does he, will clear the air — including the allegation as to whether or not a leak actually took place. The RCMP have said that there is no evidence of wrongdoing on Mr. Goodale’s behalf, his office or his department.”
One has a very difficult time believing the RCMP would advise the Prime Minister of something as definitive as that just as the investigation is beginning. How could they possibly know what evidence they will or will not uncover when they have not yet begun the investigation?
Martin’s spin is nonsense and designed to deflect the calls for the resignation of a Minister under the cloud of a police investigation.
In the British parliamentary system, the Minister is responsible for the actions of his or her department. Traditionally, the Minister should fall on his sword should there be wrongdoing uncovered in the ministry. Equally, should that Minister be under a cloud of suspicion, then he or she should resign pending reinstatement when that cloud is lifted.
But, it would seem that only happens with an ethical government. That apparently does not include the government of Paul Martin.
Leo Knight
leo@primetimecrime.com
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Al Rosen takes no prisoners. I imagine he might well be asked to get involved in this and other scandals as soon as the CPC wins. And remember, all they need to launch these investigations is a minority win. Both the Bloc and NDP will support any investigation or commission of inquiry into Liberal malfeasance.
Of course it needs to be said that the SEC or some other regulatory agency in the US might beat them to it (some of these instruments were apparently traded in US exchanges.) Although they will wait till after January 23 so as not to be accused of trying to influence the outcome of the election. I’m sure they have as much information as the RCMP by now.
I would think that Liberal insiders are running a little scared right now. They know how vulnerable they are, if in fact they are. I’d love to be a fly on a Liberal strategy meeting wall right now.
Just wait till the SEC makes their announcement…there is NO DOUBT they are investigating and we all know they will not put up with any crap! (Ask Black) Some of the Wall Street boys got burned and soon it will be pay back time!
Ralph was catagorical during question period that there was no leak, that there was no need for an inquiry and that there was no problem.
Given the way he framed his resposes he has no wiggle room on this one.How can he come back with a “I did not know”?
John Crittenden, you said: “The Liberal party is toast. In fact, they are not only toast, they are burnt to a crisp.”
I say: That’s what the Liberals get for playing with fire.
Everything they do these days only backfires on them.
They brought it upon themselves.
Did they see it coming? Of course not. Liberals are too myopic. Can’t see beyond their own momentary hedonism at our expense.
Their extreme decadence has been the cause of their self-destruction.
Y’all know what? The supposed RCMP “investigation” is just another ruse for the Liberals to respond to questioning about the insider trading with “We cannot comment on an ongoing investigation.”
That’s what’s really going on. Either way they do it, they’re still fecked. They probably figure it’s a little better to be able to evade questions.
Antenor, I appreciate your point of view, and I understand what you are saying. I am heavily involved in the financial markets myself.
However, frankly I do not understand how anyone can trust Canadian public officials when officials at the highest level appoint made Mafia members to positions like Public Works Minister. ..the very office that intersects between finances in the public and private sector.
And remember, Gagliano was a bookkeeper with connections to the Cuntrera-Caruana crime family, who were well known as some of the biggest money launderers in the world.
Additionally, please remember that Gagliano and Vito Rizzuto (the godfather of Canada) are both made members of the Bonanno crime family. In fact, whenever you turn over a rock in the Liberal Party, you see the mob looking up at you.
I have said many times here at Kate’s site that I believe the Liberal Party is composed of racketeers in business partnership with gangsters in the Bonanno organized crime family. I have seen nothing to diminish that opinion.
I think that these people are capable of just about anything. If I were presently invested in the Canadian stock market, I would be buying puts to protect all of my equity positions.
Frankly, I would not be surprised if the money derived from the Income Trust manipulation (go long the first day – go short the second day) was then used to purchase narcotics on the third day, those narcotics then stepped on once on the fourth day, sold for enormous amounts of money on the fifth day, and then returned to Canadian investors through offshore shell corporation on the sixth day.
Then when campaign time comes around, look who comes walking through the door with generous contributions to the Liberal Party while everyone mouths platitudes about patriotism — the same guys who were the beneficiaries of the original trust manipulation.
Everybody’s earning, everybody’s happy, nobody’s gettin’ hurt.
I really don’t think it much matters what the outcome of the RCMP investigation is. The RCMP may well want to get rid of the political “oversight” some are claiming they labor under, and want to see the Liberal Party out of power. Then, as their thinking may be going, they will be ‘free to do their job.”
The immediate result of the RCMP announcement of this investigation is the damaging effect it is having on the Liberals during this election. They have no way of countering this or spinning it.
However, the really big story after the election, regardless of whether the CPC or Liberals win, will be the announcement of investigations by the US authorities. These guys don’t fool around. And they’d love to make Martin and the Liberal Party pay for the way they’ve treated the US over the years.
And, if the CPC does win (even a minority), the other big stories will be the several commissions of inquiry launched into suspected Liberal criminal activity.
Either way the future does not look good for the Liberal Party of Canada. As I stated above, the way I read it is we are witnessing the death throes of a once proud political party in Canada. Can’t say I’ll miss them.
Greg (outside Dallas). I like the way you put it. Totally agree.
‘… the political “oversight” some are claiming they labor under …’
John, do you know what an Order-in-Council appointment is and which people get them? And how they keep them?
I tried to post to the Gob and Glob this morning early. Guess they didn’t like the fact I mention Medisys Income Trust and the ties to PMPM private Doctor. Sensored again!
While generally I think this wheels are off of the Liberal bus AND that barring some major CPC gaffe the Liberals look to lose….despite current polling.
However, the Liberals are good at what they do…and I have said in the past they are tactically brilliant but strategically challenged…so dont crow yet.
There WILL be a BOMB THE BRIDGE from the Liberals, go after Harper’s trustworthiness
They will go after past statements
They will bring up Harris, Mulroney, Bush
The most mud will be in Ontario and in BC.
ITs coming, expect it and if you are a conservative supporter work like your behind by 3 points whether the polls say your down by 30 or up by 15…..
The Liberals have held their fire but the “shock and awe” will be unleashed soon.
I remember when Mulroney won the first one and how the PC’s had a bit of a rough time with the entrenched federal public officials. Then 8 years later Chretien wins and it seemed to me that basically the Libs picked up where they left off. I hope when the CPC wins that there will be a house cleaning.
Greg outside Dallas,
It’s easy to say what you just did because you live in a land where freedom of speech is everything. John Crittenden just mortgaged his future by agreeing with you. He lives in Canada where even a Bishop is not allowed to question the antics of a politican without being threatened by Revenue Canada.
Oh, well, John, I don’t mind paying on another mortgage to side with you.
John C. said: “And, if the CPC does win (even a minority), the other big stories will be the several commissions of inquiry launched into suspected Liberal criminal activity.”
Hey, you’re right! I hadn’t thought of it that way; can’t believe I didn’t! Of course a minority CPC administration will be able to implement whatever it needs to, for the NDP and Bloc will HAVE to support any such initiatives to ensure future integrity, accountability and harsh enough sanctions for not only subsequent government wrongdoing, but also initiatives to proceed to uncover and punish the wrongdoing of the past thirteen years, meaning of the Liberals.
A Conservative government, therefore, will be good for the largest number of Canadians for the longest term. How can any rational voter not vote Conservative? It’s time for a lot of people to open their minds.
Thinking out side the box on this one election……there may just not be anything coming from the Liberals. They are spent, as it were, and maybe Martin will just take the lose and leave the country for China and do his business from there.
On can only hope 🙂
Here is the set-up; from CP, aka Canadian Press, aka Librano$ megaphone. Is the RCMP pulling a shell game for the Librano$?
Even G*d is on the side of the Librano$. >>>
Fate of Liberals rests on Goodale
OTTAWA (CP) – Will Ralph Goodale’s reputation as Mr. Clean save or sink the Liberals’ election prospects?
………….
But if Goodale’s reputation isn’t enough to defuse the scandal, Liberals believe the fact that the criminal investigation was revealed in the dead zone between Christmas and New Year’s Day, when few voters were paying attention, will save their electoral bacon.
“There is a God after all,” chuckled one Liberal MP>>>> End of story.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/CanadaVotes/2005/12/29/1372666-cp.html
Maz2,
That Liberal MP is WRONG. All the voters who took Christmas holidays are parked in front of their TV and when they get tired of re-runs of Judge Judy they switch to a news channel.Conversations around the dinner table will update the working stiffs as to what’s going on.
“GOD” works in mysterious ways, my friend!
It would be best if the SEC stays out of the picture until after the election. If they come in now the Libs will wrap themselves in the flag and say that this is a “U.S. against Canada” thingy, and my fellow Ontarians will lap that up.
Billy B. ByTown. I only know what I’ve heard. I’m only an artist but I have known several politicians over the years, including some back room types. It may have changed over the years as well. I Googled it for you and got one link that pertains to Nova Scotia. It’s close to what I remember from years ago when I thought more about these things. Today I just want to see some basic changes in the way Canada is going. I mean, how can we expect our kids growing up in this environment having any respect for the political or legal process with this stuff going on?
http://www.gov.ns.ca/exec_council/AppointmentProcess.asp
Billy B. ByTown. I might add that I have no quarrel with the Liberal Party per se. I even voted for them in the distant past. It’s what it has become that I find fault with. It has obviously been hijacked.
John Crittenden,
Perhaps what the kids see going on is the reason young people stay away from the ballot box. They are smart enough to know they don’t want to be part of it, but not yet mature enough to know they can change it. Let’s face it, when you’re 18 or 19 years old, and some corrupt politican says “I’m your only hope”, what do you do. Tune out, that’s what!
As good as this income trust scandal is, and as useful as it could be, I doubt it will have any effect.
Here’s the bottom line: as competant, decent, and issue-focused as the Tory campaign has been up to this point, and as clumsy, mistake prone, and hollow as the liberal campaign has been at the same time, I have yet to see ONE POLL that would give the tories a greater number of seats than the liberals.
People don’t like the Tories because of who they are, not what they say.
As much as i’d like to be optimistic, I’ll believe that the campaign is going well when I see the numbers moving.
old squid. Yup, I agree. I used to meet with school kids up to grade 6 in Alberta many years ago. The main idea was to visit with them, do a sketch, and let them get to know that artists were no different than they were. But I always got around to talking politics eventually. And I remember the questions I used to get from these kids. They were obviously interested. I still have many letters I received from them afterwards thanking me and telling me how much they’d like to grow up and be an artist. A few even said they’d like to become politicians. I sometimes wonder if any of them did. I remember telling Clarence Copithorne about that once and, after he stopped laughing, he said he hoped none of them remembered what I said to them if they did. Clarence was Minister of Highways at the time.
Flashback..Flashforward>>>> 2006 Martin’s Year, or Martin is Nixon.>>>
“The whole story will not likely come out until Bornman testifies against Basi and Virk sometime in 2006,…” >>>> Who is “Spiderman”? Watergate redux. “through the ceiling” & more… Martin is Nixon.>>>>
Spiderman in a Web of Intrigue
Published: 2005-05-10 08:17:00
By Bill Tieleman
TheTyee.ca
The Basi-Virk-BC Rail probe may yield BC�s biggest scandal yet. If so, meet the Crown�s mysterious star witness: �Spiderman� Erik Bornman.
Erik Bornman�s nickname is Spiderman but the former top Paul Martin aide is now stuck in a sticky web of intrigue that includes the tainted $1 billion BC Rail privatization deal, drug trafficking, influence peddling and the impending high-profile trial of accused ex-BC Liberal ministerial aides David Basi and Bob Virk.
How did Bornman, a well-connected BC and federal Liberal operative, become the crown�s key witness against his former friends Basi and Virk in the trial arising from the dramatic police raid on the BC Legislature in December 2003?
Why are most media outlets all but ignoring Bornman and his extensive links to both the federal and provincial Liberal governments?
And why has one of BC�s top Supreme Court justices refused to release information about two mysterious search warrants connected to the case before the May 17 provincial election?
These unanswered questions are just part of one of the most fascinating scandals in BC political history and it�s far from over.
The whole story will not likely come out until Bornman testifies against Basi and Virk sometime in 2006, when their trial on allegations of bribery, influence peddling and breach of trust is scheduled to occur.
But in the meantime, much is known about Bornman and his pivotal role in the scandal that has rocked two governments.
Dirty tricks resume
Bornman, 28, is a controversial figure even within the BC and federal Liberal parties, with a chequered past that includes some dubious political activities.
Bornman earned his nickname Spiderman after he entered a locked federal Liberal Party office � which contained the BC membership list during the time of the leadership battle between Paul Martin and Jean Chretien � through the ceiling.
In 1999, Bornman helped organize a federal Young Liberal convention in Victoria�s Traveller’s Inn that turned into a drunken hotel-trashing. The party was sued for $10,000 in damages by owner John Asfar but he settled out of court.
Surprisingly, in 2003 Bornman was listed as the registered lobbyist for Asfar’s efforts to locate a casino in a Victoria hotel.
But in an email to me last year after I reported on Bornman�s lobbying record, Asfar claimed that Bornman never lobbied government on behalf of his company.
�Secondly, Eric Bowman [sic] has never lobbied for me or any of my related companies with Government! Not once!!! He was hired by our company to introduce us to a private casino operator in Wells, BC (The Jack O� clubs Casino operation). �.,� Asfar wrote on March 18, 2004. �He [Bornman] prematurely and proactively registered my company and his company without our consent or any contractual agreement. He was forward marketing himself and anticipated presumptuously that our relationship would expand if he was successful in the introducing us to the casino owners.�
Long list of clients
But despite these and other controversies, Bornman had created a successful career as a provincial government lobbyist for major corporations.
Bornman and Kieran were the registered provincial lobbyists for OmniTRAX, the US-based rail company that was bidding for BC Rail against eventual winner CN Rail and CP Rail, which dropped out of the …>>
http://thetyee.ca/News/2005/05/10/Spiderman/print.html
Martin says he stands behind Goodale ,Goodale should resign.
Martin made a special deal with Smiling Jack to keep the Govt. afloat last year behind Goodales back, Goodale should have resigned because of no confidence from his PM.
These guys have their entitlement down to a science maybe if they get defeated at the polls they will stand on Precedence and not step aside for the next Govt.
GM: I agree. The fact that the Liberals are not polling at zero percent right now says something is very wrong in Canada. The fact that they are still leading all the polls says something horrible about Canada. And if they should (God forbid) win the election, then Canada is finished.