Since IPCC climate modellers possess the super-computing power to use data collected from both past and present to predict sea levels, weather patterns, planetary temperature, and polar bear populations 50 years into the future… what are they waiting for?
Surely they can set an afternoon aside to tell us who’s going to win the 2007 World Series.
That wasn’t meant as a joke.
Prominent Scientists Reverse Belief in Man-made Global Warming…
The names included below are just a sampling of the prominent scientists who have spoken out recently to oppose former Vice President Al Gore, the United Nations, and the media driven “consensus” on man-made global warming.
The list below is just the tip of the iceberg. A more detailed and comprehensive sampling of scientists who have only recently spoken out against climate hysteria will be forthcoming in a soon to be released U.S. Senate report. Please stay tuned to this website, as this new government report is set to redefine the current climate debate.
In the meantime, please review the list of scientists below and ask yourself why the media is missing one of the biggest stories in climate of 2007.Geophysicist Dr. Claude Allegre, a top geophysicist and French Socialist who has authored more than 100 scientific articles Geologist Bruno Wiskel of the University of Alberta Astrophysicist Dr. Nir Shaviv, one of Israel’s top young award winning scientists Mathematician & engineer Dr. David Evans, who did carbon accounting for the Australian Government Climate researcher Dr. Tad Murty, former Senior Research Scientist for Fisheries and Oceans in Canada Botanist Dr. David Bellamy, a famed UK environmental campaigner Climate scientist Dr. Chris de Freitas of The University of Auckland, N.Z., Meteorologist Dr. Reid Bryson, the founding chairman of the Department of Meteorology at University of Wisconsin Global warming author and economist Hans H.J. Labohm Paleoclimatologist Tim Patterson, of Carlton University in Ottawa Physicist Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, chairman of the Central Laboratory for the United Nations Scientific Committee on the Effects of Radiological Protection in Warsaw Paleoclimatologist Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor of the Department of Earth Sciences at University of Ottawa Environmental geochemist Dr. Jan Veizer, professor emeritus of University of Ottawa.
Lots more at the link. PDF version
Heck. I just posted this video on Y2Kyoto entry below. Didn’t see this post, so Kate must have just added it (or I’m blind).
Anyway. Check it out. It’s over a hour long but well worth watching.
The Great Global Warming Swindle
Look to Al Gore, Suzuki and other quick-buck charlatans and hypocrites to turn up the volume of their rhetoric and their lies as the curtain is slowly pulled back to reveal the truth.
They will panic if they sense that the public might finally get to hear the truth.
Because most of the generally underpaid and poorly educated journalists want a supressed economy and a massive socialist state bureaucracy so they can all have high-status jobs for life generating totalitarian government propaganda?
Really Kate…did you not see that this came from an evil imperialist Blackshirt cabal (US Government) web site…anything published by the imperialist capitalist ravagers of the people’s planet cannot be trusted as the truth….only utopian allegories from the people’s global warming revolution and green guard can be trusted as truth.
Heritics!! Deniers!! Traitors!!
Soon they shall see nature’s justice as they drown in the rising waters of the polar melt down…..and then I woke up. LOL 🙂
Good news….it`s about time….people are starting to wake up! I sent the article to Dr Fruit Fly, i am sure he will enjoy the read!
The “Goracle’s” wild eyed hysteria is now under increasing scrutiny. Good.
After all the Oil for Food rubbish AGW is just another corrupt scam to take taxpayers money to fund more debacles like Rwanda, Darfur,…etc.
A cynical do nothing organization that has completely come unhinged from its moorings.
The UN has become a cesspool of corruption, whose only useful acts have been to document death and destruction but does little to act.
What ever happened to that lofty and noble goal:
The RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT?
Oh yeah that is just an inconvenience in the way of making MONEY through the latest scam denoted as
Anthropogenic Global Warming.
“They shall beat their swords into ploughshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation shall no longer raise up arms against nation, neither shall they teach their children war anymore.” [Isaiah 2:4])
I wonder how many of the 200,000 child soldiers in Africa have even heard of that dictum. When the UN finds its moral moorings again let me know.
In the meantime DIVINE PROVIDENCE is a much better guarantor of one’s survival and safety.
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP
Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
If you want to bet against global warming there is a betting market or two online.
” … and ask yourself why the media is missing one of the biggest stories in climate of 2007.”
Because they want to.
Some words and phrases come to mind.
Premeditated actions.
Guilty by omission.
Fearmongering. A clear and present danger.
Vested interests.
Lying.
Garden path.
Propaganda.
Damaged goods.
Guilty of causing pain and mental anguish.
School children abuse.
Misdirecting taxpayer funds.
Belonging to a kult.
Favouring other countries interests. Treason.
In it up to their necks.
No turning back, would be an admission of guilt.
Should be enough.
I particularly liked this renouncement:
“Paleoclimatologist Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor of the Department of Earth Sciences at University of Ottawa, reversed his views on man-made climate change after further examining the evidence. “I used to agree with these dramatic warnings of climate disaster. I taught my students that most of the increase in temperature of the past century was due to human contribution of C02. The association seemed so clear and simple. Increases of greenhouse gases were driving us towards a climate catastrophe,” Clark said in a 2005 documentary “Climate Catastrophe Cancelled: What You’re Not Being Told About the Science of Climate Change.”
“However, a few years ago, I decided to look more closely at the science and it astonished me. In fact there is no evidence of humans being the cause. There is, however, overwhelming evidence of natural causes such as changes in the output of the sun. This has completely reversed my views on the Kyoto protocol,” Clark explained.
“Actually, many other leading climate researchers also have serious concerns about the science underlying the [Kyoto] Protocol,” he added””
Imagine that??!! The sun is warming things!!
Jose sez: “If you want to bet against global warming there is a betting market or two online.”
It’s not a matter of global warming being at issue..it is “man made” global warming that is raudulent and also the matter of whether the current warming cycle is anything more than jsut another cycle cointrolled by mostly narural sources which does not warrant “hysteria” .
This is what the reasoned argument against GHG/GW has always been about….you may have missed it though in your commie martyrs history class.
meanwhile, in the REAL world, the hysteria goes into reverse mode. So much for global warming induced BBQ season for Moncton.
Environment Canada’s Official Weather Warnings
Warnings
Moncton and southeast New Brunswick
11:02 AM ADT Wednesday 16 May 2007
Snowfall warning for
Moncton and southeast New Brunswick continued
10 to 15 centimetres of snow mixed at times with ice pellets or rain is forecast for this evening and tonight.
This is a warning that significant snowfall is expected or occurring in these regions. Monitor weather conditions..Listen for updated statements.
A low pressure system currently east of the Great Lakes is forecast to track just south of the province tonight. Rain ahead of the system has already spread over southern regions with up to 15 millimetres expected today. The rain mixed at times with ice pellets will change to snow by late this afternoon. 10 to 15 centimetres of snow is forecast before it comes to an end early Thursday. Regions along the Fundy coast will experience mainly rain with 30 to 40 millimetres possible. The rain along the Fundy coast could be mixed at times with snow this evening and overnight. Precipitation amounts over northern regions are not expected to be significant.
looking at a balmy +2 for the long weekend in Calgary. a hockey stick down.
Fred you will recall my summoning a mighty wind from the wilds of Hans Island in the run up to the “Goracle’s” visit to Saskatchewan/Alberta.
Just a visit from the TRUE NORTH to let the Goracle know who is really running the show!
AGW is beating a hasty RETREAT!
Cheers
Hans-Christian Georg Rupprecht BGS, PDP, CFP
Commander in Chief
Frankenstein Battalion
Knecht Rupprecht Division
Hans Corps
1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group “True North”
anon, right on target with your comment.
For as long as I can remember, the definition of “rich” in Cannuckistan is anyone who makes more than a reporter for the Trawna Star.
For any real scientist, the statement “the science has all been decided” is like a red flag in front of a bull.
In other news… Antarctica is melting:
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2007/05/16/science-antarctic-melt.html
You want to talk hysteria? Hysteria is thinking that our economies will tank if we do stuff like demand automakers offer more fuel efficient vehicles. Seeing as how Europeans have considerably more choice when it comes to fuel efficient vehicles, it’s not like we have to re-invent the wheel.
Just sent this to Kenney and Harper. Didn’t bother sending it to Baird, he’s just a sock puppet.
On the left side of the page is a link to the “Skeptics Guide” in pdf… suitable for sending to your schools etc.
Another story from our beloved CBC/Pravda. I think not.
“please review the list of scientists below and ask yourself why the media is missing one of the biggest stories in climate of 2007”
I’ll ask you instead, Kate. Why?
“please review the list of scientists below and ask yourself why the media is missing one of the biggest stories in climate of 2007”
I’ll ask you instead, Kate. Why?
Why?
Let me explain. The media is divided. Some will pick it up, like Glen Beck. While others either don’t have the backbone – don’t want to be outed as a climate change denier by rabid fools like the fruitfly scientist – or, it’s not beneficial to the left wing wealth redistribution program. News and the truth are often mutually exclusive.
Comprende?
Goracle and Fruitfly could have saved face by switching from GW to GP or Global Warming to Global Pollution some time ago.
Too late for recovery now though.
I*m no scientist, but with all the compensating cold about the globe for warming trends in some areas, it seems more like a world shifting of weather patterns.
Priority one, in any case is clearing that amber cloud from our cities, like the one you can see looking down on Vancouver from Grouse mountain.
Priority 1(a) is getting *clean coal tech* installed in Coal-Gen plants.
Priority 1(b) is phase out of the antique Internal Combustion Engine and switching to battery and Hydrogen [HD] transport.
More practical than releasing hot air about world changes naturally brought about by solar and geodesic acrivity.
Change is a scientific fact. It is always on *go*. = TG
To begin with the list is not a list of recent converts as it seems to imply. Instead many of these are the same people who signed the Letter to Prime Minister Harper over a year ago.
However what is really important is the science that these people have relyed on in reaching their conclusions and even more important, the science that they have produced.
To take one example, good old Dr. Jaworowski. He is listed in the group, but if you look at his work you will find that it is not solid and in fact fairly poor quality (and I am being kind). I did a joint post in the fall looking at some of his work which can be found here . If anyone is interested there is a part two on the way but no telling when!
I don’t remember seeing it mentioned but now skeptic Reid Bryson is considered the “Father of modern Climatology”. Arguing with him about climate would be like arguing with Einstein about physics.
Global Warming will be a DEAD issue in five years.
Heavy snowfall warning for Moncton
w3.weatheroffice.gc.ca/warnings/report_e.html?nb16
Environment Canada’s Official Weather Warnings
Warnings
Moncton and southeast New Brunswick
11:02 AM ADT Wednesday 16 May 2007
Snowfall warning for
Moncton and southeast New Brunswick continued
10 to 15 centimetres of snow mixed at times with ice pellets or rain is forecast for this evening and tonight.
This is a warning that significant snowfall is expected or occurring in these regions. Monitor weather conditions..Listen for updated statements.
A low pressure system currently east of the Great Lakes is forecast to track just south of the province tonight. Rain ahead of the system has already spread over southern regions with up to 15 millimetres expected today. The rain mixed at times with ice pellets will change to snow by late this afternoon. 10 to 15 centimetres of snow is forecast before it comes to an end early Thursday. Regions along the Fundy coast will experience mainly rain with 30 to 40 millimetres possible. The rain along the Fundy coast could be mixed at times with snow this evening and overnight. Precipitation amounts over northern regions are not expected to be significant.
WolfShield, you are of course aware of Dr. Einstein’s views of quantum theory.
The fixation on CO2 is certainly not beneficial for the environment. The health and environmental risks caused by real problems such as particulate matter, mercury, etc. in the air, not to mention toxins in the water, are being eclipsed by all the hype surrounding AGW.
I still haven’t seen a credible list of real scientists (unlike Dr. Fruitfly) promoting AGW. All we get is this ‘vast majority’ mantra.
I’m just sitting here waiting for a comment from “Jeff”.
It looks like the cracks in the dam are beginning to spew water. Pretty soon the whole AGW nonsense is going to burst apart with a flood that will hopefully wash away what little credibility the MSM and the envirowackos have left. My own skepticism began when I read the IPCC scientific reports starting with the Vostok ice core data. How this stuff and the Kyoto blather ever gained any traction is beyond me.
Uh John if antarctica is melting,…
Observed at: Vostok, Antarctica
Elevation: 11220 ft / 3420 m
-57 °F / -50 °C
http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/89606.html
Even from this prarie boy -50°C sounds kind of cold for a place to ‘melt’. But I’m not as smart as the bubble heads at the CBC.
The fact is antarctica melts and freezes at the edges every year. panic mongers point to the melting and say run for your lives.
Maybe we could send Suzuki to live there and enjoy the balmy temperatures. He should drive his bus to get there.
As if you guys needed this context-holding reminder:
From http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller23.html . The writer of it is an M.D.-holder.
Anybody notice the disproportionate number of Canadians in the piece? Wonder what that’s all about.
Dr. Wright, I don’t recall mentioning that antarctica was melting. I understand that parts of it are and parts aren’t. However I will note that at an elevation of 2 miles, most places are pretty cold.
Practical and money saving for Global War. . Pollution.
For your next new car . . .
Canada Government Gives you great Info Value Free!
oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/personal/pdfs/most-efficient-vehicles-2006.pdf
http://tinyurl.com/2cmz24
There are 12 car photos per page for each year from 1999 to 2007. Each photo and specs in order of gas efficiency.
============ Check the year page for your car
[Photo]
Honda Insight
1.0 L, 3 cylinder hybrid
5 speed manual
Annual Fuel Cost: $504
Annual Fuel Use: 720 L
CO2 Emissions/Year: 1728 kgTwo-
Fuel Consumption City: 3.9 L/100 km (72 mi./gal.) Hwy: 3.3 L/100 km (86 mi./gal.)
[Photo]
Volkswagen Jetta
TDI Diesel Wagon
1.9 L, 4 cylinder
5 speed manual
Annual Fuel Cost: $791
Annual Fuel Use: 1180 L
CO2 Emissions/Year: 3186 kg
Fuel Consumption City: 6.6 L/100 km (43 mi./gal.) Hwy: 5.2 L/100 km (54 mi./gal.)
[Photo]
Volkswagen New Beetle
TDI Diesel
1.9 L, 4 cylinder
5 speed manual
Annual Fuel Cost: $737
Annual Fuel Use: 1100 L
CO2 Emissions/Year: 2970 kg
Fuel Consumption City: 6.2 L/100 km (46 mi./gal.) Hwy: 4.6 L/100 km (61 mi./gal.)
[Photo]
Pontiac Vibe [When 35MPG standard arrives, all below this disqualified]
1.8 L, 4 cylinder
5 speed manual
Annual Fuel Cost: $980
Annual Fuel Use: 1400 L
CO2 Emissions/Year: 3360 kg
Fuel Consumption City: 7.9 L/100 km (36 mi./gal.) Hwy: 5.9 L/100 km (48 mi./gal.)
No need for hybrid unless you want bigger car w/ lower MPG. Hybrids are no gas = no go too. To be free of gas pumps and sudden gas outs, you need an Electric Vehicle. [EV]
I like the Phoenix short box p/u EV.. Click TG below for photo. =TG
John Cross:
definition of poor quality: anyone who disagrees with me.
Practical and money saving for Global War. . Pollution.
For your next new car . . .
Canada Government Gives you great Info Value Free!
oee.nrcan.gc.ca/transportation/personal/pdfs/most-efficient-vehicles-2006.pdf
tinyurl.com/2cmz24
There are 12 car photos per page for each year from 1999 to 2007. Each photo and specs in order of gas efficiency.
============ Check the year page for your car
[Photo]
Honda Insight
1.0 L, 3 cylinder hybrid
5 speed manual
Annual Fuel Cost: $504
Annual Fuel Use: 720 L
CO2 Emissions/Year: 1728 kgTwo-
Fuel Consumption City: 3.9 L/100 km (72 mi./gal.) Hwy: 3.3 L/100 km (86 mi./gal.)
[Photo]
Volkswagen Jetta
TDI Diesel Wagon
1.9 L, 4 cylinder
5 speed manual
Annual Fuel Cost: $791
Annual Fuel Use: 1180 L
CO2 Emissions/Year: 3186 kg
Fuel Consumption City: 6.6 L/100 km (43 mi./gal.) Hwy: 5.2 L/100 km (54 mi./gal.)
[Photo]
Volkswagen New Beetle
TDI Diesel
1.9 L, 4 cylinder
5 speed manual
Annual Fuel Cost: $737
Annual Fuel Use: 1100 L
CO2 Emissions/Year: 2970 kg
Fuel Consumption City: 6.2 L/100 km (46 mi./gal.) Hwy: 4.6 L/100 km (61 mi./gal.)
[Photo]
Pontiac Vibe [When 35MPG standard arrives, all below this disqualified]
1.8 L, 4 cylinder
5 speed manual
Annual Fuel Cost: $980
Annual Fuel Use: 1400 L
CO2 Emissions/Year: 3360 kg
Fuel Consumption City: 7.9 L/100 km (36 mi./gal.) Hwy: 5.9 L/100 km (48 mi./gal.)
No need for hybrid unless you want bigger car w/ lower MPG. Hybrids are no gas = no go too. To be free of gas pumps and sudden gas outs, you need an Electric Vehicle. [EV]
I like the Phoenix short box p/u EV.. Click TG below for photo. =TG
john, i have a graph showing 400,000 years of ice core data from greenland. this data shows regular fluctations in temp over thousands of years on a regular basis. looking at this graph i would say we are about to have a drop in temp in the nexxt few hundred years. for some reason i am just not worried about it.
The Antarctic California sized piece melting story is a crock.
What you had was 1 year when the had a warm spell of 41 degrees. the story also indicated that this happened in antarctic summer of 2005 (meaning during the winter in the north.) The point being it happened in 2005 and hasnt been observed in the the next two antarctic summers.
Amamzing they drag out 2 yea old data. Just like last spetmeber they talked about the norhtern ice pack being at its smallest in years…in september 2005. Guess what he arctic ice pack was bigger in 2006 and 2007. Runaway heating, my ass! I mean there was more CO2 in the atmosphere in 206 and 2007 than in 2005 so shouldnt that mean that it got warmer? Apparently not.
Warwick: Here is a conundrum for you. We disagree on what the definition of disagree is yet you don’t see me calling your definition poor quality.
However if you were referring to Dr. Z’s work, why don’t you just point out some of the errors with Jim’s (and my) analysis.
John
1000 years ago, the Vikings discovered Greenland, and settled there because of fertile land.
Now it is covered in ice.
Could someone please explain….
..( IF ).. Greenland becomes fertile AGAIN,
…Why is that a bad thing…?
Why don’t we hear about the “Petition Project” (Oregon Project) which has been signed by some 17,800 scientists who are against the Kyoto accord? A quote from the paper – “Environmental Effects of Increased Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide” which can be found at the URL below.
http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.html
“Human activities are believed to be responsible for the rise in CO2 level of the atmosphere. Mankind is moving the carbon in coal, oil, and natural gas from below ground to the atmosphere and surface, where it is available for conversion into living things. We are living in an increasingly lush environment of plants and animals as a result of the CO2 increase. Our children will enjoy an Earth with far more plant and animal life as that with which we now are blessed. This is a wonderful and unexpected gift from the Industrial Revolution.”
GRM: You probably don’t hear much about the Petition Project anymore since the science that it was based on has moved.
As a quick example, in the paper you referred to, they talk about global temperatures and they place a great deal of emphasis on the satellite data over surface data. To quote “The satellite record, with uniform and better sampling, is much more reliable.” However I will point out that the data set from the satellites have been corrected (starting about 6 years ago) to account for orbital decay and other problems. The corrections have been done by the team (Spencer and Christy) who reported the trends in the first place as well as others. Their observed warming has changed from a decrease of about -0.04C per decade to an increase of about 0.13 per decade. It is somewhat ironic that this is similar to the number that the paper used for surface warming from the land stations.
There are other problems with the paper eg Figure 3 and Figure 16 that we can talk about if you wish.
I see that CBC is posting news the in 2005, NASA said Antarctica was melting….. they should also post that in 2003 NASA said that Mars was melting.
Cosmology goes Canadian! Theoretical Physics goes GALACTIC!
Extra, Extra read all about it, the world as we know it is not ending.
Canadian Government has mind bending experience without marijuana or alcohol. Get spaced out and high on cosmology!
BTW my ice cream melts in summer as well, but holds up very well in winter.
Public events for May 17, 2007
May 16, 2007
Ottawa, Ontario
Public events for Prime Minister Stephen Harper for Thursday, May 17th are:
Waterloo, Ontario
Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics
31 Caroline Street North
Waterloo, Ontario
N2L 2Y5
11:00 a.m.
Alice Room
Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics
*Photo opportunity only*
11:45 a.m. – Prime Minister Stephen Harper will make an announcement. He will be accompanied by President of the Queen’s Privy Council for Canada, Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs and Minister of Western Economic Diversification, Rona Ambrose, Minister of Industry, Maxime Bernier, Minister of Finance, Jim Flaherty, and Member of Parliament for Kitchener-Conestoga, Harold Albrecht.
The Mike Lazaridis Theatre
Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics
“For any real scientist, the statement “the science has all been decided” is like a red flag in front of a bull.”
Statements like that are usually made in polemical statements by skeptics.
Know your bull.
Global warming not only causes warming, it also causes cooling. This means that temperatures may be “unseasonably warm”, or “unseasonably cold”. In between, temperatures may be temporarily average. All of this is alarming.
Much money must be spent on this.
New Glacier Forming in the Crater of Mount St. Helens. http://glaciercaves.com/html/anewgl_1.HTM
DrD at May 16, 2007 2:38 PM, watch the video I posted at the top of this thread. Believe it or not, it was Maggie Thatcher’s gift of government grants to anyone who could come up with science that would ultimately help her dismantle the power of the coal miners union in Britian. Once grants became available the avalanche of phoney science began.
I like the graph in that CBC story, showing in red and yellow the areas that had warmed…..notice how small a percentage of Antarctica that is. Notice, then, that all the areas NOT in red or yellow must therefore be stable or cooling. Therefore, 90%+ of the continent is cooling, not warming. Funny how the media just mentions the warming, painting it as “wide-spread”. It even mentioned that nothing happened when some of the ice melted….the story says it just refroze later. Yet the whole article gives you the sense of “OMG AGW! And here’s the proof!”
Now only if the news manufacturing corporations reported on this, hopefully some people may come to their senses.
Sadly it is not going to happend, the corrupt environ-mentalists divinig the climate will stil have the upper hand.