I’d like to thank you.
Generally speaking, I’m a bit of a stickler about leaders of political parties having achieved some sort of electoral legitimacy before expecting their public policy views to be widely reported…
Ms. Woodfield, who has unsuccessfully run for office provincially and municipally, said the federal Greens disrespected Canada’s troops when Ms. May said Tuesday that “the (report’s) recommendation of more ISAF forces from a Christian/Crusader heritage will continue to fuel an insurgency that has been framed as a jihad. This, in turn, may feed the recruitment of suicide bombers and other insurgents.”
The “Christian/Crusader” reference prompted the federal Conservatives to fire off a release condemning the Greens. Ms. May’s party shot back with a release Wednesday criticizing the Tories for spinning the Greens’ message to suit their own agenda.
Ms. Woodfield, mother of Pte. Braun Scott Woodfield, 24, who died in Afghanistan in 2005, said the initial release from the Greens was offensive.
“I fear that with the words (Ms. May) used, that she’s painted a target on the back of every uniformed member of NATO that’s over” in Afghanistan.
But given her high profile alliance with Stephane Dion, all I can say about the press’s eager coverage of the dizzy Lizzy is “faster, please!”
I think a Borat Dion /Dizzy Miss Lizzy coalition would be a scream. we could be invading Pakistan and retreating at the same time.
It his not izzy to rotate hout and hin at da same time.
That’s quite a disgusting, and ignorant, comment made by Ms May.
Dion has aligned himself with her, but remember, that perspective that Islamic fascism is due only the Evil West and has nothing to do with a dysfunctional Islamic tribalism and the Islamic identity of militant jihad is also held by many of our own numerous leftists.
I completely support the idea that the best way to deal with fools is to make sure that as many people as possible get to see their demonstrations of lunacy and such.
It would be helpful though is the MSM had at least a slight ability to differentiate between actual leaders who have something of matter to say and do and the likes of Bessie May.
The fact that she or dufus Dion are quoted ad nauseum without any context or critical evaluation of what they say makes the reporting agencies a joke and complicit in the outrageous posturing of these people.
Elizabeth May is exhibiting such an extreme case of the leftie self-loathing syndrome that one wonders why she hasn’t removed herself yet….. as a bonus, it would reduce CO2 output
A truly deplorable comment. Groveling appeasement, cultural self-loathing, delusional.
Does the fact that we come from a Christian heritage mean that we can never, under any circumstances, defend ourselves, or seek to free the oppressed elsewhere in the world?
Indeed, it is our Christian heritage that propels us to do so — it’s something to be proud of, not ashamed.
Perhaps we should only send Hindu troops?
Oh wait, they have even MORE reason to hate the Jihadis than we do (so far).
Perhaps we could send all muslim recruits. Just look at how well Sergeant Akbar performed in Iraq- oh wait, he chose to help the Jihadis by killing two of his own with a grenade.
Hmmm. Who else could we send?
The National Post ran a good story on May today:
“Last May, the Green leader was assailed for her contention that Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s environment policy was “worse than Neville Chamberlain’s appeasement of the Nazis.” Now, she’s in trouble again for inferring that Western soldiers in Afghanistan are “Crusaders.”
“Not only is the Green plan a few helicopters short of heavy-lift capacity, it is entirely inconsistent with the party’s position on the Darfur crisis in another Muslim country, Sudan. There, Ms. May is not overly concerned about the prospects for jihad. In fact, she actively encourages the Canadian government to lead a “rapid reaction force” of middle powers, deployed to a country bordering Sudan and “ready to intervene, if necessary.” Thus, the Greens are against continuing with a UN mission in a country where the foreign forces have been welcomed by the democratically elected government, but are in favour of a full-fledged invasion of Sudan.”
http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=258982
Dion thinks highly enough of Lizzy to forfeit a Liberal candidate to give her a better chance at getting her but into HOC. It could be deducted that she’s an arm of the Liberals. She also professes great admiration for Dion, that would lead us to assume she’ll support the Liberals in the House.
They have to be kindred spirits/cloud dwellers at least since they seem to think they have the answers to all things environmental. For Lizzy, it’s her main platform and for Dion, he’s a self proclaimed, de facto expert since being on the file and doing squat for years.
With the dunder-headed statements she comes out with on issues like equating our forces fighting in Afghanistan with Christian Crusaders, she should stick to her one trick pony routine.
Lizzie May manages to get more ink from the leftist Canadian MSM, (a party without an MP in the Commons) , than she or her party deserve.
Maybe Taliban Jack and Lizzie May should be invited to stand in front of the Canadian Military, if they can’t stop appeasing the Taliban.
Now there is something they can cogitate on.
Eric Walton, the Greens’ foreign affairs critic, said his party didn’t characterize Canadian troops as such. He said the reference was included as something historically put forward by the Taliban; it wasn’t a Green party description.
“The Taliban’s use of ‘crusader’ is meant to undermine the Canadian soldiers,” Mr. Walton said. “I mean, we would never say that. And I went out of my way to try to prevent that misunderstanding” by including the term “heritage.”
Weasel words.
May is a communist, Dion is a marxist and Layton is a taliban sympathizer – this is the political elite supported by Canada’s MSM…
I am beginning to fear that this country is doomed
I agree…Lizzy-May (Clampett) can do even more good for the CPC as an unofficial opposition talking head than she did as a special interest pariah attached to the Dijon caucus.
BTW Say Hi to Richard Warman for us Liz…will you sign his nomination again??
CBCpravda is a taliban sympathizer too.
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/01/24/khadr-france.html
penny, that’s quite the attempt to slither out of what one said – ie, the Green Party Eric Walton stating that ‘Christian crusaders’ isn’t a term used by the Green Party. Heaven’s no.
He declares that – It’s a term used by the jihadists! So, if you don’t approve of the term, then, why use it? And then there’s his attempt to slither further by claiming that the use of the term’ heritage’ nullifed the term ‘Christian crusaders’.
Whew. Sorry, Mr. Walton, your explanation doesn’t work. Ms May meant exactly what she said, and what she said was that our troops are in Afghanistan, not because of the need to fight against terrorism, not because of the need to provide stability and peace to the Afghan people, not because they want us there – but because we are invaders because we are, heritage wise, ‘Christians’ and ‘crusaders’.
It remains disgusting and insulting. And stupid. But that’s Ms May.
Yup, that’s right. Add this to the lengthening list of insults that moronic dippers love to throw at the troops. You know, that all volunteer army, risking their necks to keep innocent women and children safe.
So, in the last few years, our troops have been labeled as terrorists, baby murderers, abusers of prisoners, and now crusaders.
Only can only wonder what the next bit of toxic venom spewing from the leftard jerk offs will be?
Taliban Jack looks like a right wing nutcase compared to Ditzy Lizzy.
Appeasment is Collaberation…
Collaberation is Appeasment…
May, Dion, Layton…traitors all!
Here’s a story that might not have got a lot of attention outside of the centre of the universe, er, sorry, Southern Ontario:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080123.wrgm24/BNStory/robNews/
“Rear-wheel-drive cars scrapped or moved to Michigan; company blames new fuel economy rules”
So, here you have an issue that a REAL leader would want to talk about, and in particular, how the Green Party will handle the job layoffs that will result because of an environmental decision it supports.
So, what of it Ms. May? What will the GP do to help laid off GM workers?
I don’t think May or Greens really have anything to add to the debate re: Afghanistan and war on terrorists. They are against military action for any reason, any time. Her “Crusaders” comment is just cover for her appeasement attitude. That seems quite clear to any objective observer here. I’m being charitable, but it seems she is arguing that only Arabic troops should be used. I would love that to happen, that Arab countries intervene with their military forces in an effective way; unfortunately, that didn’t and won’t happen, other than idle speculation.
Imagine, as context, if during WW2, when Germany was invaded after D-Day, some politician stood up and said we should send only Germanic troops there, so we don’t reinforce our Brit/US imperialist agenda.
ET – basically Walton is saying that the Taliban put the words in his/her mouths. What a disingenuous weasel.
who elevated Dizzy Ms. Lizzy to official status. – the MSM.
why ?
because they ran out of gender equal reporting opportunities.they cant report on
Paris Stronach,
Hot Cross Hedy.
Tequila Sheila or
Stripper Sgro.
and with Svend gone and Scooter Brison tying the knot we dont even get a balance of SSM stories.
Is Ms May going to advocate next for any trooper that is not Christian to be sent home, In fact any Non-Christian trooper from any Nato participating country to be sent back their respective country?
Is Ms May going to demand Turkey take over the mission?
Sounds idiotic Right? Iam not a politician She Is!
Richard Ball @ 11:25 wrote, “Does the fact that we come from a Christian heritage mean that we can never, under any circumstances, defend ourselves, or seek to free the oppressed elsewhere in the world?
“Indeed, it is our Christian heritage that propels us to do so — it’s something to be proud of, not ashamed.”
Amen. Alleluia!
Who is it, all over the world, who help THOSE OF ALL FAITHS AND NONE, day in and day out, century in and century out, millennia in and millennia out, as well as, always, in time of disaster?
Hmm… Let me see. I think those people would generally be CHRISTIANS and countless governments and agencies from countries built on the foundation of Judeo-Christianity. That is a FACT. (Provide MILLENNIA of proof if you disagree.)
Richard’s comment brought to mind the bible passage, Isaiah 6:8: “Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, ‘Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, Here am I; send me.’”
That is the Christian commission—not always honoured, for sure. But it has been honoured widely and deeply enough over millennia to produce the magnificence of the democratic West. (Fast going down the tubes . . .)
On the other hand, Lizzie May would never say “Here I am; send me,” to anything more innocuous than a green-tea party.
May Ms May be the first Canadian—or whatever she is—appeaser to wear the burqa. (And it’s nice to consider that she can’t even construe this as the insult it is. Check, mate!)
Brad said @12:02 “I am beginning to fear that this country is doomed.”
Beginning . . . ?!
We’re so far down the slippery slope, the brakes–even if we could find them–are not working very well. . .
CRASH!!
What’s even worse….she should know about Church history and the truth behind the Crusades. She is studying theology, Anglican in fact.
From this link: http://www.canadianchristianity.com/nationalupdates/070503may.html
“May: Oh no, that is silly. If people want to accuse me of paganism, they can, but it is completely off base. As I have mentioned, I have been a practicing Christian, and I am pretty clear in my theology. In fact, I have studied theology as a part-time effort. I am interested, in the long term, in becoming ordained as an Anglican priest, so I am certainly not a pagan.”
We see the Leaders of certain political parties make these idiotic comments all the time & then out come the trained seals to the rescue. No, No thats not what they mean’t!
Ya they said it & thats what they mean’t.
“If you ask me it is jolly well time for another crusade” he said as images of monty python skits flash by…
Looking forward to watching the “I’m a green idiot” tag-team of May and Dion during any election debates. CBC is sure to include her, they love her so much. I can just see blabber-mouth Lizzie saying, “Shhh, Stephane, I’LL handle this question!” Would be hilarious viewing. And throw in Jacko and Gilles and it’s guaranteed to be a gong show. Really, Hollywood couldn’t come up with stranger characters than these.
I have used the “leftism is a mental disorder” as a throw-away line to slag stupid people on the left but the more I hear from these retards the more I thing that there’s a basis in truth for the ascertion.
They’re deficient in basic logic, clearly delusional, seeing conspiracy theories all over, inconsistent in their application of values and judgement, and overly emotional on all issues.
They’re crackpots. I guess that’s why so many hollywood types are left. The lot of those people are crazy…
Ms. May will be running against Peter McKay. (if she is still around for the fall 2009 general election).
Dion withdraws the Liberal candidate in this riding,
calling it a courtesy to a leader seeking a seat.
Think that has only happened in a by-election.
Lizzy sounds like a card carrying member of the communist party, anymore to the left and she’ll fall off the edge.
I agree with Warwick that leftism is a mental disorder. Of course we have a whole bunch of them, originally indoctrinated in the 60’s and 70’s in our establishments of lower learning. The number of wacko profs just increased from then on, beginning with a lot of American draft dodgers. In Quebec and Eastern Canada there was also an influx of ex-priests and ex-nuns preaching the Marxist doctrine instead of Christianity. I should add that most of the senior bureaucrats in the federal civil service fall into the same category.
That’s what you get when you’re the first in your neighborhood to send away to Germany for a political party in a box starter kit and decoder ring.
You get to own the party, and own Dion and his gang on the next block.
Remember the game we played as kids, Simon says:
Now it is Dion says, vote ndp in Sask election
Dion says-vote green in N.S.
Dion says-vote ex ndp in Toronto
Dion says-vote for female I have appointed
Liberals say, yes master.
Lizzie says, I support Dion
Lizzie says, our troops are wrong
Wonder if anyone will follow her, other than the media.
Re Valencia @ 1:26: Lizzie May apparently says, “I am interested, in the long term, in becoming ordained as an Anglican priest, so I am certainly not a pagan.”
Not so fast, Lizzie. First of all, look at what’s happening to the Anglican Church: it’s in a death spiral because there doesn’t seem to be a Commandment or tradition it seems capable of upholding these days. It’s the clerical Lizzie Mays—both male and female—and their appeasers, lay and clerical, who have nearly destroyed the Canadian Anglican Church as a professing Church, rather than a social agency that does some good.
E.g., The present chaplain at the Anglican-founded Trinity College, U of T—the chaplain just before her was a gay man, who had a partner with whom, I believe, he lived, maybe even on campus—is a (more than once, I believe) divorced woman (feminist also, I think). The web site says:
“Chaplain Fisher’s interest in the spiritual nature of human beings takes her beyond the boundaries of Christianity to explore the spiritual beliefs of adherents to other faiths and of those who profess no commitment to organized religion.”
These words appear to be the extent of Chaplain Fisher’s mission statement, as there is no further comment on what her goals are.
“Boundaries of Christianity”? I don’t believe that this chaplain or Ms May have a clue about what those words actually mean. “Christianity”? Believe whatever you like. “Boundaries”? What boundaries?
But, go ahead, Lizzie May, you’ll fit—to a Green Tea!—the “Lucy-goosey” feminism and apostasy of the Anglican Church that are, at present its death knell. (Good thing May has her own money: there won’t be much left if and when she’s welcomed—as she surely will be—into that dying denomination.)
Great post lookout at January 24, 2008 1:19 PM. I don’t want to belittle the contribution of other Christian nations, but more recently there seem to be fewer and fewer of them engaged in the heavy lifting of helping those of all faiths and none. Can you say Anglosphere? Or maybe just America?
Sadly, even the Anglosphere seems to be turning in on itself and steadily losing its capability to see clearly and then act. The fact that someone like Lizzy May would be considered an appropriate candidate for the Anglican priesthood (see post by Valencia at January 24, 2008 1:26 PM) demonstrates how far that once mighty arm of the Anglosphere has fallen.
You’ve got it, fc. Yes, there are many very fine Christians in the Anglican Church, who understand that the term means more than being “nice” to people. But the Church has failed both Christianity and the believing Christians in its ranks by remaking that Church in man’s–whoops! woman’s/feminist’s–image.
Lizzie May is a perfect candidate for the new order of Anglican clergy: an apostate, it seems to me, do-gooder (depends on one’s definition) with a really soft brain. She’s also full of herself and puts the creation above the Creator: that’s called idolatry and is against the First Commandment. But what would Lizzie May know about that? And, believe, me, few Anglican seminaries would disabuse her of her heretical outlook and thoughts.
The Lizzie May’s of this world do so much harm to Truth and Justice, all the while believing they’re crusaders–whoops!–for both. If the diagnosis isn’t correct, forget a cure. Lizzie May and her ilk are so far off on the diagnosis, far from a cure, they wreak havoc.
Kyrie eleison.
Nuts used to be locked up and looked after by the state. Now they are given a podium and paid by the state to publicly prove their stupidity I guess. Can’t explain this stupid greenie any other way. Why waste a vote on this clown or Jackulaytin for that matter. Other countries that progress in this world have 2 votes conservative or liberal, or right and wrong if you please. They don’t have all these pit yorkie terriers like jackulatin and dizzie lizzie running to the equally moronic reporters all the time like they have any credibility, what a farce we are quickly becoming, it is lucky we have the blogs to give us truth seekers the truth, thanks Kate and all the rest.
there was no Anglican Crusade, there are about 300 intervening years between crusades and the reformation. dizzy ms. lizzy.
What’s even worse….she should know about Church history and the truth behind the Crusades. She is studying theology, Anglican in fact.
From this link: http://www.canadianchristianity.com/nationalupdates/070503may.html
“May: Oh no, that is silly. If people want to accuse me of paganism, they can, but it is completely off base. As I have mentioned, I have been a practicing Christian, and I am pretty clear in my theology. In fact, I have studied theology as a part-time effort. I am interested, in the long term, in becoming ordained as an Anglican priest, so I am certainly not a pagan
Nice to see Ms. May engaging in the typical anti-Christian hate fest that is today’s left. As a lark, I have just file a lengthy, and emotional complaint form with the BC Human Rights Tribunal. If the left wants to use HRC’s to quiet us on the right, I feel they are fair game for the same tactics.
lookout at January 24, 2008 3:22 PM:
Kyrie eleison for sure, but since we’re talking about the weird ideas of one Lizzie May, I’d like to add: Luceat eis and Requiem aeternam.
Yes, indeed, fc: “may light [perpetual] shine upon” her ridiculous ideas and “may they rest in” pieces!
Technically you’re right lookout, but I was hoping that the light wouldn’t have to shine perpetually in order for the nonsense to be put to rest eternally.
May is a loose cannon that is doing tremendous damage to Dion.
Anyone else notice that Dion seems to have already been replaced as leader by Iggy/Rae?
I notice a sudden rise in the temperature every time Ms May sounds off.
yes, the Lib have the former dipper Rae and former foreigner Iggy to do the front end telecasting now.
Borat Dion cannot be trusted to not stick his piede in his bouche and even the MSM sheeple are starting to not believe the translations.