Both she and Ms. Eliadis had harsh words for the growing contingent of bloggers who lambaste the commissions, and have been invigorated by the prominence of the Maclean’s complaints.
Ms. Eliadis singled out one in particular, blazingcatfur.blogspot.com, as “poisonous” for referring to her panel at the conference as a “Texas cage match.”
She said it was evidence of the “appalling tone” that is “illustrative of how badly this debate has gone.”
More material for the poisonous debate – “Take a moment to see how hard Jennifer Lynch, the chief commissioner of the Canadian Human Rights Commission, works. She jets off to Africa, at a cost of $5,800; then Geneva, for a mere $8,300, Australia, for a bargain of $7,500. I can’t remember the last time I spent $90 on breakfast, but then again I don’t work for the CHRC.”
It’s forever been about control for these non entities.
So it would appear that anyone criticizing “Human Rights” Commissions is an intolerant bigot according to the “Human Rights” commissions. Next, defending yourself before a “Human Rights” commission will make you an intolerant bigot and therefore guilty by definition. Guilt by accusation — Stalin and Beria would have been proud.
They’re offended? GOOD!
Scratch and sniff a HRC-ite … or Kinsel-ite for that matter, and you get the reek of the borg.
“She said it was evidence of the “appalling tone” that is “illustrative of how badly this debate has gone.”
On the contrary this is evidence of how well the debate is going.
To quote on of the great hero warriors in this struggle against this brutal politically correct repression …
“We’re winning” Ezra Levant.
Blaze on Cat … you have gotten to them to them. Their stomachs are churning.
Fire. Her. First.
Only Canada can produce the following phrase:
“Ms. Eliadis is an editor of the Charter and Human Rights Litigation Quarterly”
http://www.cla-ace.ca/advisoryboard.html
See? It really is an industry, with quarterly publications and all.
Ms. Eliadis is also the author of the rather ambitiously titled: “Designing Government: From Instruments to Governance” from Queens U. Press:
http://www.amazon.ca/Designing-Government-Instruments-Pearl-Eliadis/dp/0773528458
On behalf of BCF, I wear this like a badge of honor.
Stalin is laughing in hell. We thought he was gone, but the HRCs continue his tradition…
What debate, the HRCs and their fruitloop supporters haven’t debated the issue. They decree their edict from on high about hate, bigotry and racism and Islamophobia and we the unwashed masses must abide by their rules or else.
First Steyn’s sarcasism upset the fruitloops, and now it’s the tone Blaze used when she wrote a post a fruitloop didn’t like. These people should wrap their heads in bubble wrap lest they hear something offensive, poor dears as fragile as china-bone china.
Personally they can kiss me arseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
** Both she and Ms. Eliadis had harsh words for the growing contingent of bloggers . . . **
Both she and Ms. Eliadis are sadly behind the curve of media in flux.
They seem not to realize that copy in current *printed* media is carefully strained through a PC filter.
Blog and forum comment by contrast is starkly human and honest. People are free to say things like, *I love this guy because . .*, or, *I hate those people because . . .*, or why can*t we deport members of a group who insist upon supporting a terrorist cause? *
Maybe she and Ms. Eliadis could learn about the norms of MODERN media before taking the license to label them as *poisonous*.
Opinions that shock the sensitive reader do not automatically equate to poison.= TG
Yes the debate has been going wrong for them. They are truely clueless as to why their efforts arent appreciated. The HRC’s believe they are doing good stuff and that they are good people so the dangers raised cannot possibly apply to them.
The HRC’s come from a differnt era and deifferent political viewpoint. This is one of the indicators of problems in our society, we have no common touchpoints or language anymore, one might say values. Or the values that are common are only objectives and not processes. So who can disagree at the surface with the sentiment that there should be no hate, no bad words…once you surrender the easy point then any means to acheive that end become justifiable.
It is a childs view of society and humanity, not thinking of the consequneces, unintended or not, of actions or intentions. I believe they are truely befuddled and cannot fathom why this is causing a problem….I mean why cant Macleans just be really nice and let these people reply…if they did wouldnt it have solved the problem? And like a good parent you get your 5 year old to apologize even if they dont really understand it…..what oculd be more ebnign than that?
Of course that forgets we are dealing with adults and free agents all around who have their own rights. The usual justification is that Macleans is owned by a “majority” or advantaged group and therefore they can afford it….”from each according to his ability to each according to his need” underlies ALL of this.
The HRC’s are truely confused and believe that they are under political/ideological attack as opposed to having overstepped their bounds and done something wrong.
Sadly, the only way they will learn is to have a major slapdown from other institutions and from other parts of society. They may need to relearn the lesson many times before they finally get that life and society dont work and shouldnt work the way they view the world.
PLEASE PRONOUNCE MACLEANS GUILTY….lets have this debate done properly so neither Parliament nor the Supreme Court can ignore it.
**Human-rights cases against Maclean’s and Levant are nothing to get excited about:
PEARL ELIADIS, Montreal Gazette February 2008**
Pearl’s previous op-ed is worth a re-read in light of the developments since February. It shows what deluded and generally freaky people she and her HR cohorts are, and mostly it shows that no amount of public pressure will modify their arrogant views of what’s good for the public. I agree with Stephen at 2:15; PLEASE PRONOUNCE MACLEANS GUILTY.
http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/editorial/story.html?id=919eb65e-d650-4517-b53e-3d5190b99214&p=2
“illustrative of how badly this debate has gone.”
Of course it’s gone badly – they’re trying to defend the indefensible.
“What the free speech absolutists are saying is that, once you take that core element of speech and transport it into mass media, suddenly it becomes immune.
That’s not what this free speech advocate (I don’t think that I know any “absolutists”; all the free speech advocates that I know respect intellectual property protection, and understand that free speech protection does not apply to slander or incitement to riot, among a few other exceptions) has ever said. I think that speech should be free (with a few exceptions, as noted above) for everybody, not just for those in the mass media.
I don’t understand why speech should be immune from discrimination law.
I’ll bet you don’t, but I do. Free expression of views via speech, the press, television, radio, the web, etc., is essential to the healthy functioning of a democracy. I’m going to repeat for the benefit of Mr. Warman and some of his friends that a pie in the face is neither speech nor the press, and should not be free.
“The media should not enjoy more rights or immunity than anyone else.”
We agree on that. What we don’t agree on is that I think, following the likes of the founding fathers of the United States, that the solution to this is free speech for everybody. You, as far as I can tell, think that the solution is to restrict speech for everybody.
This is the most important issue in our country today and for some time to come. It supercedes the Climate Issue, the pollution issue, the economy,guns,street crime, gas prices. All of them.
If we cannot speak our mind I fear society will find other means to get their way. Human Rights Commissions are totalitarian and totolatarianism only works for a little while.
alright! BCF’s in the club!
Logic not relevant??
Challenged at Nat Post . . .
Sorry TG4 but intentions are irrelevant under Human Rights Laws. Anything at all could be prosecuted under these laws. Since the Japanese are still whaling Herman Melville’s “Moby Dick” could be considered hateful because it is likely someone, somewhere, somehow might come to hate Japanese people, an identifiable group.
============ NP
Logically . . .
Herman Melville’s *Moby Dick* is about the wrongful harvesting of whales by persons who just happen to be Icelandic and Japanese.
Steyn wrote about the wrongful practice of bombing innocents and severing heads by those who just happen to be Muslim extremists.
If Anglicans were doing these things, would it then be non-racist to write about those same actions? = TG
Sickening article in the Star, rooting for tyranny.
http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/447121
Ezra points out some of her expenses. I got to tell you I’m getting really offended at how these folks spend my money.
“The racism of today is not the same as that of yesterday — the politics are much more complex, the victims cite intersecting / interlocking grounds.” -OHRC staff input
http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/commission/mission/spcs#1
I’m sort of appalled that we pay taxes for some of this mumbo-jumbo.
JM they clearly don’t know what racism is, what hate is and what free speech is. It’s all “mumbo-jumbo”. Nazis hunting so called Nazis etc. These people are dangerous.
As my Granny would have said about reforming or overhauling this Inqisition of thought. “You can’t polish a turd” so why try?
Fire them all!!!!!!
“She said the commissions are “strategically and uncomfortably poised” in “dynamic tension” among NGOs, government, voters, industry and other influences, and it is “almost proof of their relative success that nobody is happy.”” – Pearl Eliadis
So in her view is this the purpose of HRC’s. Take the various religious, ethinic, and cultural groups that make up Canada and pit them against each other.
I hate liberals and communists
and I hate Canada’s HRC
have I broken any laws by saying that?
I see I’ve been beaten to it. fire the bitch.
Not sure Brad, but you have certainly hurt someones feelings somewhere – that’s worse in this land where hearts don’t just blindly bleed they hemorrhage.
So will Eliades and the “whatever” Human Rights Commission sue Blazing Cat Fur for insult and injury and hate?
I hate all Human Rights Commissions.
Sue me, mama.
Rose @1.38 PM.
I see you use the English spelling of Arse! Goodonya!
I like America and Americans but have always been perplexed, and a little annoyed, by their continual invocations to kiss their ass …. donkey?
Rose @1.38 PM.
I see you use the English spelling of Arse! Goodonya!
I like America and Americans but have always been perplexed, and a little annoyed, by their continual invocations to kiss their ass …. donkey?
JM @4.26 The racism of today is “systemic” or, in other worsds, non-existant but we have to have a justification for our existance.
Rose @1.38 PM.
Quote: I see you use the English spelling of Arse! Goodonya!
I like America and Americans but have always been perplexed, and a little annoyed, by their continual invocations to kiss their ass …. donkey?
LOL my father was a Scot’s man we don’t say Ass gasp that’s a bad word and worthy of an ivory soap moment (soap in one’s mouth). Me Arse is a common phrase in Cape Bretain.
The HRCs are shakedown rackets, a racket that has grown to include not just Goberment employees but special interest groups, lobbyest and lawyers all have made a great deal of money using “Hate, Racism, and bigotry” as their mission statements. The HRCs can’t control feelings, it’s not possible ergo they use leftard logic and propaganda from their bottom feeders supporters to give the illusion that hate is rampant in Canada.
It’s become a multimillion dollar cottage industry, while healthcare and elder care is on death row the HRCs flourish. It’s a waste of our taxdollars, and only the leftard elite and the perpetually mewling benifit from their mandate. If the complainants legal fees weren’t covered these marxist arms of the government would die a painful death.
Rose @7.48 Totallyconcour.
Zeros spend heros’ money
More evidence of the disconnect between Ottawa and the citizenry. I can drive, at seriously extra-legal speeds I might add, from Red Deer to Las Vegas, and back, for under $600, yet the head of the CHRC apparently doesn’t have an issue with dropping $1300 of other people’s money on a limo fromn Ottawa to TO. And people wonder why I loathe most iterations of what passes for government.
Heads up-
CBC’s Sunday Nite on CBC-TV main network has a short item on The Human Rights Commissions with comments by Ezra Levant, Alan Borovoy, Darren Lund, etc. around 10:25 pm Eastern.
Brad
“””””I hate liberals and communists
and I hate Canada’s HRC”””””
PeeAir Truedough was in his youth a card carrying kommie, and then was Prideminister as head of the Lieberals, so maybe you could distinquish between liberals and communists for me as I are a little confused:-))))
When the offensive bureaucratic martinets get offended …. I am pleased!
Parasites .. all of them …. apply salt/ disinfectant/ penicillin/ mouthwash/ suppositories or whatever it takes to rid our nation’s body of them !
I consider “Texas cage match” to be a rather flattering label for the kind of operation that is an HRC “court” in Canada these days.
I also consider “useless, tax-sucking gasbag” to be a rather accurate description of Pearl Eliadis.
While I am at it, I think “castrated eunuch fencesitters” accurately describes every Canadian political party and – collectively – all their members. This unfortunately applies to the former supporter of freedom of speech, PM Stephen Harper (I had hoped for better things from Harper. I hate to admit that I was very, very wrong.)
Canadian mainstream media can be fairly described as the world’s very first “national used gas recycling initiative” – in defiance of all logic and scientific knowledge.
Canadian journalists can, on average, be dismissed as “typists” or “word processors”. Certainly, “research” and “analysis” and “reporting facts” seem to be beyond the grasp of the vast majority who currently enjoy employment in the Canadian media sphere. Perhaps “clerks” might be a better description.
I could go on, but it’s depressing…
I watched “El Cid” on the w/e. Right at the beginning, as the narrator introduces us to the ‘threat’ growing on the shores of Africa, we meet the leader of that threat.
His speech to his fellow leaders exhorting them to strike at Spain and then Europe, killing all the infidels sounded eerily familiar. It was like Osama took a page right out of the movie.
Question: Would a movie like that contravene HR legislation as envisioned by the HRC? Certainly it is likely to promote hatred towards a identifiable group.
And the beat goes on…
What about a movie which depicts European settlement of North America in a bad light? Wouldn’t Dances with Wolves for example, be guilty of promoting hatred of an identifiable group? As I remember, there was a Canadian movie about the Sioux moving to Canada after Little Big Horn and there were some Americans in that movie who were portrayed as evil personified. I am offended, now that I think about it.
I think it is pretty clear that “identifiable” means non-white in the context of Canada, but to say so would be to provoke hatred…
Obviously it was the “Texas” flavor that made “cage match” so offensive. After all, we all know what Texans really are, hey wait, aren’t they an identifiable group? Oh, they come under the “Americans, your close neighbor and largest trading partner” exception where no slander carries any weight. I am beginning to get it now.
[quote]he HRCs can’t control feelings, it’s not possible ergo they use leftard logic and propaganda from their bottom feeders supporters to give the illusion that hate is rampant in Canada. [/quote]
Rose,
You hit it right on… Canada suffers an inferiority complex… they don’t have the die-hard haters, and think they must invent hate to be normal.. or to justify thier budgets
Canada doesn’t have a clue what hate is…better they stay ignorant….
So like they id’d a blogger I’m offended, Maximum Disruption can sue for the hurt of others.