23 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Stinking Giant Fans”
But they really, really can “control the climate”, they just have to starve the plants.
I wonder who owns Suez.
The choice here is a million wind turbines that may or may not work (and will not enhance the beauty of the countryside) or ONE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT that will do the job for sure and you won’t even have to see it.
What would you choose?
Minnesota also has a flook of frozen wind-mills….purchased used from California…….
Some genius installed them in an area that long haul Canadian truckers avoid in the winter due to fequent ice/wet snow…..
What a wonderful green project. We build a wind farm and then we build a second generation system to cover for the wind farm. Excellent.
Well, maybe we can’t control the weather, but shoudn’t a bit more anthropogenic GW should thaw those things…
“For us, cold and dry weather is good and that’s what’s typical in the region. Cold and wet weather can be a problem without any warmer days to prompt thawing, which has been the case this year.”
~Julie Vitik
Cold weather?
But isn’t uncontrollable runaway hot weather supposed to be the reason for the very existence of those turbines?
Let me fix that headline for ya, Cjunk…..
“From the no $hit Sherlock file…..”
sasquatch, I read that report too. The hydraulics froze in Minnesota because they installed the things as-shipped from California, and hadn’t switched to winter weight hydraulic oil. Or purged the tanks either, I bet.
Does it get dumber than that? I guess we’ll see, I bet the Ontario Liberal crew can top Minnesota for pure burning stupid.
I think that the province should shut off the juice to 19,000 homes and see how much public support for wind power there really is.
Just like Calgary’s meat head council who pays extra to have the c-train ‘wind powered’, I think the trains should stop running when the juice isn’t flowing from the windmills and see what the voters really think of green power.
Wow! Twelve jobs, eh? That should sure affect the unemployment rate.
Wind power is expensive and unreliable, it occupies a large footprint and chops up birds and has been promoted and subsidized on the premise that we CAN control the weather (climate) by political hubris supported by a politically dependent and lysenkoised science network. Did I miss anything?
duffman: “I think the trains should stop running when the juice isn’t flowing from the windmills”
That’s a brilliant idea. To go along with it, every politician and bureaucrat all agog over wind power should also have their electricity shut off (at home and work) when the wind isn’t blowing.
Of course, neither will ever happen, but a girl can dream.
Scam is right, just like the twisty light bulbs.
Simple question: If the wind farms cannot produce power, where does NB Power go to get enough energy to make up the shortfall? Or do 19,000 families freeze in the dark until spring?
BTW, lived in the Miramachi area of NB and there were many times that snow, ice, freezing rain created havoc in the winter and that was back in the 70’s for cripes sake.
Whacko Greenie wet dreams of eco friendly electricity . . .
great summary at the daily bayonet . . .
Green Math: Part 3
Ontario’s green energy numbers don’t add up:
Wholesale Average Weighted Cost (YTD) of Ontario electricity: 3.35 cents/kWh
Guaranteed 20-year contract price per kWh for solar panels (ground level): 64.2 cents/kWh
Guaranteed 20-year contract price per kWh for solar panels (roof-top): 80.2 cents/kWh
Guaranteed 20-year contract price per kWh for wind turbines: 13.5 cents/kWh
(link to microFIT rates, pdf)
Cost to the province in 2011 to reduce bills by 10% to hide increases caused by green energy programs until after the election: $1.1 billion
Ontario has promised to pay renewable energy producers up to 23 times the actual price for electricity which is the driver for increased bills and time-of-use billing. At risk of belaboring a point, sustainable subsidies are not sustainable. Premier Dalton McGuinty has pulled the plug on offshore wind projects – it’s time to end the FIT programs before they bankrupt us.
The opposition understands math, even if Dalton doesn’t. http://dailybayonet.com/?p=7923
Brr -28C last night.
Not enough Co2 I’m afraid.
‘Scuse me while I throw another green log on the fire….Just trying to do my part.
As long as people aren’t using their brains, I’m not seeing how anything could go wrong with “green” energy. So it doesn’t work, is more expensive and one needs more usual forms of energy to bail it out. It could still work. My magical unicorn told me so.
(sarcasm off- head pounding begins)
Just don’t head-butt any Unicorns Osu.
Abe, the major shareholder of GDF Suez is the Government of France with a 35% stake. It’s the result of a merger of a number of public and state-owned companies which included Electrabel, the principal nuclear generator in Belgium. Suez is the fifth largest electric generator in Europe with generating assets in everything from thermal, hydraulic, nuclear and renewables.
Entities like Suez are typical French government practice. When a state corporation becomes a money-losing venture, rather than close it, they merge it with a profitable state corporation.
GDF Suez has an international division, and I presume it’s through this one that the NB wind operation was built and operated.
A Hundred years from now if we survive this present age. These Wind-farms will be looked upon as an assault on Nature, with no benefits except Greenish dementia.
Its also pig ugly.
JMO
wind turbines should be left to the hardy wilderness dwelling types who have nothing but time on their hands and schedule their days with the factoid in mind that there will be days with little or no electricity.
ie run the water pump when you can to keep the reservoir tanks full, reduce to only lighting when the spinning slows.
and install them far enough away from the dwelling to avoid the whoosh whoosh whoosh that now seems to be a serious deterrent.
I wouldn’t mind one bit having use of modern conveniences only part time.
the model fails utterly in the hands of a pantywaist like dolt mcguilty.
Indiana, I think that is what wind power people did, hence the turbines.
TC, very simple. They increase the utilization of the oil burning thermal plants at Coleson Cove and Dalhousie. They also increase imports from Hydro Quebec, but for that they pay the same price as the New England Power Pool.
But they really, really can “control the climate”, they just have to starve the plants.
I wonder who owns Suez.
The choice here is a million wind turbines that may or may not work (and will not enhance the beauty of the countryside) or ONE NUCLEAR POWER PLANT that will do the job for sure and you won’t even have to see it.
What would you choose?
Minnesota also has a flook of frozen wind-mills….purchased used from California…….
Some genius installed them in an area that long haul Canadian truckers avoid in the winter due to fequent ice/wet snow…..
What a wonderful green project. We build a wind farm and then we build a second generation system to cover for the wind farm. Excellent.
Well, maybe we can’t control the weather, but shoudn’t a bit more anthropogenic GW should thaw those things…
“For us, cold and dry weather is good and that’s what’s typical in the region. Cold and wet weather can be a problem without any warmer days to prompt thawing, which has been the case this year.”
~Julie Vitik
Cold weather?
But isn’t uncontrollable runaway hot weather supposed to be the reason for the very existence of those turbines?
Let me fix that headline for ya, Cjunk…..
“From the no $hit Sherlock file…..”
sasquatch, I read that report too. The hydraulics froze in Minnesota because they installed the things as-shipped from California, and hadn’t switched to winter weight hydraulic oil. Or purged the tanks either, I bet.
Does it get dumber than that? I guess we’ll see, I bet the Ontario Liberal crew can top Minnesota for pure burning stupid.
I think that the province should shut off the juice to 19,000 homes and see how much public support for wind power there really is.
Just like Calgary’s meat head council who pays extra to have the c-train ‘wind powered’, I think the trains should stop running when the juice isn’t flowing from the windmills and see what the voters really think of green power.
Wow! Twelve jobs, eh? That should sure affect the unemployment rate.
Wind power is expensive and unreliable, it occupies a large footprint and chops up birds and has been promoted and subsidized on the premise that we CAN control the weather (climate) by political hubris supported by a politically dependent and lysenkoised science network. Did I miss anything?
duffman: “I think the trains should stop running when the juice isn’t flowing from the windmills”
That’s a brilliant idea. To go along with it, every politician and bureaucrat all agog over wind power should also have their electricity shut off (at home and work) when the wind isn’t blowing.
Of course, neither will ever happen, but a girl can dream.
Scam is right, just like the twisty light bulbs.
Simple question: If the wind farms cannot produce power, where does NB Power go to get enough energy to make up the shortfall? Or do 19,000 families freeze in the dark until spring?
BTW, lived in the Miramachi area of NB and there were many times that snow, ice, freezing rain created havoc in the winter and that was back in the 70’s for cripes sake.
Whacko Greenie wet dreams of eco friendly electricity . . .
great summary at the daily bayonet . . .
Green Math: Part 3
Ontario’s green energy numbers don’t add up:
Wholesale Average Weighted Cost (YTD) of Ontario electricity: 3.35 cents/kWh
Guaranteed 20-year contract price per kWh for solar panels (ground level): 64.2 cents/kWh
Guaranteed 20-year contract price per kWh for solar panels (roof-top): 80.2 cents/kWh
Guaranteed 20-year contract price per kWh for wind turbines: 13.5 cents/kWh
(link to microFIT rates, pdf)
Cost to the province in 2011 to reduce bills by 10% to hide increases caused by green energy programs until after the election: $1.1 billion
Ontario has promised to pay renewable energy producers up to 23 times the actual price for electricity which is the driver for increased bills and time-of-use billing. At risk of belaboring a point, sustainable subsidies are not sustainable. Premier Dalton McGuinty has pulled the plug on offshore wind projects – it’s time to end the FIT programs before they bankrupt us.
The opposition understands math, even if Dalton doesn’t.
http://dailybayonet.com/?p=7923
Brr -28C last night.
Not enough Co2 I’m afraid.
‘Scuse me while I throw another green log on the fire….Just trying to do my part.
As long as people aren’t using their brains, I’m not seeing how anything could go wrong with “green” energy. So it doesn’t work, is more expensive and one needs more usual forms of energy to bail it out. It could still work. My magical unicorn told me so.
(sarcasm off- head pounding begins)
Just don’t head-butt any Unicorns Osu.
Abe, the major shareholder of GDF Suez is the Government of France with a 35% stake. It’s the result of a merger of a number of public and state-owned companies which included Electrabel, the principal nuclear generator in Belgium. Suez is the fifth largest electric generator in Europe with generating assets in everything from thermal, hydraulic, nuclear and renewables.
Entities like Suez are typical French government practice. When a state corporation becomes a money-losing venture, rather than close it, they merge it with a profitable state corporation.
GDF Suez has an international division, and I presume it’s through this one that the NB wind operation was built and operated.
A Hundred years from now if we survive this present age. These Wind-farms will be looked upon as an assault on Nature, with no benefits except Greenish dementia.
Its also pig ugly.
JMO
wind turbines should be left to the hardy wilderness dwelling types who have nothing but time on their hands and schedule their days with the factoid in mind that there will be days with little or no electricity.
ie run the water pump when you can to keep the reservoir tanks full, reduce to only lighting when the spinning slows.
and install them far enough away from the dwelling to avoid the whoosh whoosh whoosh that now seems to be a serious deterrent.
I wouldn’t mind one bit having use of modern conveniences only part time.
the model fails utterly in the hands of a pantywaist like dolt mcguilty.
Indiana, I think that is what wind power people did, hence the turbines.
TC, very simple. They increase the utilization of the oil burning thermal plants at Coleson Cove and Dalhousie. They also increase imports from Hydro Quebec, but for that they pay the same price as the New England Power Pool.