A recent book (‘Time’s Up’, Green Books, 2009) by one Keith Farnish includes the following: “Civilization has created the perfect conditions for a terrible tragedy on the kind of scale never seen before in the history of humanity.”
Farnish proposes preventing this tragedy by: “… removing grazing domesticated animals, razing cities to the ground, blowing up dams …”
We have to destroy civilization in order to save it.
are these people just stupid,or consciously evil?
I’d go easy on the removal of domesticated grazers. Someone removed some domesticated sled propellors last year in Whistler, and all hell has broken loose.
You just can’t please everybody.
Better still, we could do what it takes to remove the enviro-hysteria from the public school curricula or remove the public schools from the children they seem to like to abuse with anthropogenic armageddon narratives disguised as science.
Save a cow for me. I’m hungry.
I think these neo ludites should practise what they preach and hole themselves up on some deserted African coast somewhere and revert to primitive lifestyles minus the grazers of course.
Yeah that’s it we’ll tear down civilization to save civilization. Perfect choice. What a moron.
The echo chamber of his mind is such a wonderful waste of space.
Lizzie May is probably salivating at his “vision”
Wow not very often Somolia and Libya lead the pack. I wonder if he realizes that could be a hate crime against vegans?
removing grazing domesticated animals,
No need to chose Marina, they can be stupid and evil. Dalton McGuinty for example…
It’s all a communist plot.
When the Berlin Wall fell all the lefties invented this $hit to give them one more chance at global domination.
These luddite swine would like humans to go extinct. The liberals among them would settle for a crash to a half-billion well-dispersed hunter/gatherers, although if they were vegan, it would be better.
Here are some radical environmentalist quotes:
The right to have children should be a marketable commodity, bought and traded by individuals but absolutely limited by the state.—Kenneth Boulding, originator of the “Spaceship Earth”
concept (as quoted by William Tucker in Progress and Privilege, 1982)
We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster or for a social change to come and bomb us into Stone Age, where we might live like Indians in our valley, with our localism, our appropriate technology, our gardens, our homemade religion—guilt-free at last! —Stewart Brand (writing in the Whole Earth Catalogue).
Free Enterprise really means rich people get richer. They have the freedom to exploit and psychologically rape their fellow human beings in the process…. Capitalism is destroying the earth. —Helen Caldicott, Union of Concerned Scientists
We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects…. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of tens of millions of acres of presently settled land.—David Foreman, Earth First!
Everything we have developed over the last 100 years should be destroyed. —Pentti Linkola
If you ask me, it’d be a little short of disastrous for us to discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy because of what we would do with it. We ought to be looking for energy sources that are adequate for our needs, but that won’t give us the excesses of concentrated energy with which we could do mischief to the earth or to each other.—Amory Lovins in The Mother Earth–Plowboy Interview, Nov/Dec 1977, p.22
The only real good technology is no technology at all. Technology is taxation without representation, imposed by our elitist species (man) upon the rest of the natural world. —John Shuttleworth
What we’ve got to do in energy conservation is try to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, to have approached global warming as if it is real means energy conservation, so we will be doing the right thing anyway in terms of economic policy and environmental policy. —Timothy Wirth, former U.S. Senator (D-Colorado)
I suspect that eradicating smallpox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.—John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal
Human beings, as a species, have no more value than slugs. —John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal
The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing….This is not to say that the rise of human civilization is insignificant, but there is no way of showing that it will be much help to the world in the long run. —Economist editorial
We advocate biodiversity for biodiversity’s sake. It may take our extinction to set things straight. —David Foreman, Earth First!
Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental. —Dave Forman, Founder of Earth First
If radical environmentalists were to invent a disease to bring human populations back to sanity, it would probably be something like AIDS —Earth First! Newsletter
Human happiness, and certainly human fecundity, is not as important as a wild and healthy planets…Some of us can only hope for the right virus to come along. —David Graber, biologist, National Park Service
The collective needs of non-human species must take precedence over the needs and desires of humans. —Dr. Reed F. Noss, The Wildlands Project
If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels. —Prince Phillip, World Wildlife Fund
Cannibalism is a “radical but realistic solution to the problem of overpopulation.” —Lyall Watson, The Financial Times, 15 July 1995
Poverty For “Those People”
We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels. —Carl Amery
Every time you turn on an electric light, you are making another brainless baby. —Helen Caldicott, Union of Concerned Scientists
To feed a starving child is to exacerbate the world population problem. —Lamont Cole
If there is going to be electricity, I would like it to be decentralized, small, solar-powered. —Gar Smith, editor of the Earth Island Institute’s online magazine The Edge
“If they be like to die they’d better do it then, and help decrease the surplus population.” Dickens
“No new things, just new people.” Phantom’s Grandad.
This genius has figured it out, if we all starve to death there will be no more starvation and death -brilliant!
Trust the leftards to take cultural equivalency to it’s illogical conclusion…species equivalency.
Lionel, it should be noted that Stewart Brand has recanted that statement along with a number of his 1970s-1980s ‘ecofreak’ positions. Which is why he’s now considered as big a heretic as Patrick Moore.
As for the House of Windsor, the insanity is easy to explain. It’s hereditary. Along with a number of genetic defects, some of them simply go insane, which explains Prince Charles and the apple never falling far from the tree. And Prince Phillip’s quote above is not just a random statement; he IS the head of the World Wildlife Fund.
Mind boggling just how static these people’s thought processes are…
Hand them all a poison pill and let them lead the crusade.
YEEESH!
As an add on to Lionel…thanx for your quotes.
It was entertaining!
Will campfire season ever get here??
Considering that we have had major climate change at least half dozen times in our planets history without human contribution, I guess the cow has always been to blame. Scientifically proven and I have a hockey stick graph that’s verified by all computer input.
‘Civilization has created the perfect conditions for’ – morons to publish crap.
“Lionel, it should be noted that Stewart Brand has recanted…”
Yes. He even favors nuclear power now. He has forsworn the hippie commune model of living. Now he advocates living in large, hive-like cities to concentrate the pollution in one manageable spot, no cars, and ubiquitous public transportation. The hinterlands would be used for agriculture and recreation, but would mostly be allowed to revert to the wild.
From one utopian madness to another.
“We, in the green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which killing a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels. —Carl Amery”
And we in the Green movement don’t intend to quit doing the latter as long as those horrid conservatives continue with the former … even if the wood is needed … or even if they replant, or even if they don’t kill a forest.
Somewhere a “spirit bear” is laughing….
I wonder how many loons have been killed by spirit bears now……..
Lionel, “…large, hive-like cities…” Well, that’s happening anyway. About two years ago for the first time ever, more than half the world human population was urban. This will continue as the population grows to about nine billion over the next half century.
My point is simply this. Brand was anti-technology and is now pro-technology. That’s a fundamental philosophical shift of far greater consequence than the details of how it’s used. He supports GM where the green movement opposes it. This all puts him at odds with virtually the entire green movement and much more in alignment with us.
Now get real for a minute. Do you want defectors from the enemy or don’t you?
@cgh
“population grows to about nine billion over the next half century.”
And there you have touched on the biggest problem. WW 2 took out about 53 million. The next war will have to be on reproduction of the species to bring it down to a level the planet can handle or, a real war that removes about 4 billion. Now there is some real food for thought.
Lucky for us that the world will end in 2012 and spare us the hard decisions 🙂
Peterj, war never reduces human population. The world’s population grew throughout WW2. All the war did was slow the growth rate. Only three natural events in recorded history have reduced human population on a global scale: the first was the plague outbreak in about 112 AD, probably red measles. The second was a plague early in the 6th century, and the third and most destructive was the Black Death in 1347-52.
What is reducing the rate of human population growth is urbanization and industrialization. This is a self-correcting problem. As prosperity increases, fertility declines. Nine billion is expected to be the peak, after which the population will slowly decline.
There won’t be another war among the great powers for the foreseeable future. Nuclear weapons have eliminated war as an instrument of policy.
I think these people are…insane or suffering from being in some sort of dillusional state. They remind me of some of the characters in the Stephen King novel “Insomnia”.