18 Replies to “O, Sweet Saint Of San Andreas”

  1. Liberals are always wondering why low and middle class citizens often vote conservative. Why vote against your own best interests, they ask.
    This is why. The poor will suffer most under such legislation. Extra costs to businesses means extra costs to consumers.

  2. “The hubris of ignorant environmentalist groups never ceases to amaze. Have they ever paused to consider that genetically modified foods can, perhaps, save lives and help lift human beings out of poverty?” – Article
    It’s never ceases to amaze me that some people don’t appreciate that other like to eat natural food and not manufactured or scientifically engineered crap – All politics aside.
    Sell GMO’s and seeds that only produce one crop to the Third World so that they can’t harvest and re-grow. Their forced to repurchase new seed each year, oh well, most people don’t give a crap, I certainly don’t, that’s their problem and they are starting to uprise against it, as in India. All the power too em, good luck.
    Domestically supporting small business including farms, organic or otherwise supports our economy. Supporting big-farma, Wal-Mart style boxes stores, fast food restaurant chains, etcetera supports minimum wage, the disabled, and the mentally challenged. Whoopee.
    We should have the option to choose either way for ourselves without being slammed by fat assed fast food junkies with cholesterol problems and heart conditions.
    Of course California can’t afford more government bureaucracy, but that the loony hole they’ve dug themselves into. Whatever, they should be happy they don’t live in India and need to fight it with shovels and hoes.

  3. “We should have the option to choose either way for ourselves…”
    Exactly. I like to know where my food comes from, before I go sticking it in my mouth.

  4. This from a state that , if the heavily modified denizens of beverly hills are anything to go by, you would think would celebrate genetic modification…

  5. Hate to tell you folks but the GM stuff has crossbred with non-GM stuff. I am fairly certain it would be had for any particular farmer to declare his crop totally GM free and be honest.

  6. Some genetically engineered foods (corn and oil seeds in particular) have been found to conclusively cause cancers and immune deficiency diseases in healthy test animals in several independent studies. France and Germany have banned Monsanto GMO crops. European and New Zealand studies have conclusively linked bee death/hive collapse to bees ingesting pollen from GMO crops. The world’s best brewers will NOT use GMO grains.
    An interesting side note to the GM food debate is that Monsanto and two other leading GM corporations operate like a revolving door between their board room and the FDA. rubber stamping approval on many GM crops without conclusive testing to determine human consumption pathology
    I have read extensively on the GMO tests and I think there is enough conclusive evidence that a wise person will steer clear of this stuff unless it is the only option – at the very least I want food using GMO to be labeled so I can make the choice.

  7. There is a lurking suspicion in most people that genetically altered plants (and their botanical fruits … grains, etc) are “bad” for them in some nameless way. And that is because genetics is poorly understood by most people. And rightly so. It is complicated. That fear not withstanding, the facts are that GM plants provide increased nutritional value, resistance to drought and disease, greater production, and easier harvest….. all of which are needed to feed 7 billion plus people. Take this away and there will be massive starvation. You choose.
    In so far as the need to buy seeds every year because the plants are engineered to be sterile (not produce viable seed), well, like the pharmaceutical industry, years of research and testing are needed to bring the product to market. This is very costly. Why shouldn’t they make a profit on a very desirable product.

  8. David in Michigan >
    “Why shouldn’t they make a profit on a very desirable product.”
    Why not.
    But why are seeds that don’t reproduce year to year “desirable”?
    I’m not a farmer, but it seems like they are only desirable to those that create them, no?
    If only one company has the patent on those seeds, and they cross contaminate all the so called “wild” seeds, would they not have a monopoly on the industry? Monopolies are not free market or capitalist values.
    I think small farmers who don’t want GMO seeds should be pooling their resources and suing companies like Monsanto that contaminate their fields, not the other way around myself.

  9. The ten minute Penn and Teller BS episode is worth watching.
    The ‘frankenfood’ view of the commie tree-hugging hippies is pierced by their pitchforks and set ablaze.
    Unfortunately,it will never die for the true believers.

  10. Agree with Knight 99.
    You wanna eat franken food, go ahead. Don’t have a problem with that.
    If someone does not, they should know what it is they are buying.
    Why would anybody have a problem with that?

  11. Osumashi Kinyobe >
    What’s the trouble?
    When someone takes my money for something I purchase from them I expect them to tell me honestly what I’m getting.
    Some people will lie of course, but I prefer to handle them in a civilized and legal way, instead of using a baseball bat to their knees.
    They can’t have it both ways I’m afraid.

  12. True, but the fear mongers are consumers. To me it’s no different than properly labeling and having the ability to track foreign products like finding lead in toys or poison in baby food.
    What we call safe today, may not be considered safe tomorrow margarine or butter with your cigarette madam?
    Sometimes “fear mongers” are not that far off base, you can’t simply dismiss all of them, unless there is a specific self serving political agenda that is appearent.
    You’re absolutely correct that food has been naturally and artificially crossbred since the inception of farming. But scientists never stop with simple, and are using all kinds of freakish lab techniques to create self producing pesticides in crops and cross species genetic splicing, insects, fish etcetera. What are the long term effects to humans or the environment, they don’t know.
    These are the same people who create black holes in labs or burst nuclear bombs in our atmosphere “just to see what happens”.
    I say that if people want to eat natural foods instead and are willing to pay the extra costs, who cares? I don’t care if LAS wants to sit around his shabby little apartment injecting heroin into his veins with a sex object in his rectum either. (Well providing he never appears in public of course). To each their own.
    Regardless a consumer has a right to know despite of their political affiliations what someone is selling them so that they can make that personal choice.

  13. Just eat a half pound strawberry, and there’s your example of breeding gone amuck. Not saying all GMO bad. Just don’t try and deceive/conceal from consumer.
    The experts also said the earth was warming enough to kill us all, and we know what happened there.

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