Republican pollster John McLaughlin:
“The Democrats want to convince [these anti-Obama voters] falsely that Romney will lose to discourage them from voting. So they lobby the pollsters to weight their surveys to emulate the 2008 Democrat-heavy models. They are lobbying them now to affect early voting. IVR [Interactive Voice Response] polls are heavily weighted. You can weight to whatever result you want. Some polls have included sizable segments of voters who say they are ‘not enthusiastic’ to vote or non-voters to dilute Republicans. Major pollsters have samples with Republican affiliation in the 20 to 30 percent range, at such low levels not seen since the 1960s in states like Virginia, Florida, North Carolina and which then place Obama ahead. The intended effect is to suppress Republican turnout through media polling bias. We’ll see a lot more of this.
h/t EBD
Polling companies are Advertising companies in disguise. You pay your money and you get the results you want.
I sincerely hope your right. Four more years of Obama will break Americas back.
As it is Romney has been running a weak campaign even with embassies burning in the background. The MSM is totally shameless in its support of this modern Faust.
This is interesting.
http://www.unskewedpolls.com/
It shows the polls if they were unscewed.
Hmm. Wondered where they picked up that trick?
BNN was interviewing two Wallstreet types who were talking about their impressions from a recent healthcare conference in NYC. Their take was that Obama gets back in with ease. Being a casual viewer I could not say whether these individuals had something to gain thru Obamacare and thusly their pumping his re-election or not.
It is very unfortunate but the MSM constantly reinforcing Demo positions does sway public opinion. Canada’s most recent example was the WildRose debacle in Alberta.
The USA situation is more volatile than the MSM indicates. Many very disillusioned voters who might still turn on the hand that feeds them. The Demos have to reassure their supporters that the GOP will feed them less well.
wrong…..they are mobilizing the wrong base for them
Obama’s numbers do not add up….75% of this country did not vote for him…and we handed them their butts two years ago
There still remains the reality that Obama, as a Teflon Man, has been able to remove himself from all responsibility for any problems.
He stands completely separate from reality, he and his mega-watt smile, his jokes, his waves, his rambling abstract verbiage. Nothing sticks to him. And he, sticks to nothing; what he says one day he’ll deny the next day.
The media accept this; they don’t hold him accountable. The 16 trillion dollar debt may be real, but like Obama, the media and the electorate who listen to them, blame it on: Bush, or the EU or the greedy banks or whatever.
Equally, the unemployment, the gas prices, the fact that millions are on food stamps – none of this is due to Obama. He’s just there to help people ‘get over what others did to you’.
People actually accept this fictional tale. They consider that Islamic fascism is due to US imperialism (?), to ‘Bush’s wars’ and that Obama is a saviour. The current jihadism, ah, that’s due to a silly video and we mustn’t insult those nice people over there.
They mutter about Romney’s Mormonism and totally ignore Obama’s 20 years with the Black Liberation Church and its anti-americanism, anti-white, anti-capitalism.
Obama became skilled as a young boy at removing himself from any accountability in the world; we recognize this refusal to take responsibility, and we accept his word!
But we and the media obsess over every word and act of Romney. Our ignorance is incredible.
For example, Romney releases a tax return; he pays 20% on his income which comes from investments. We say it ‘ought to be more’, ignoring that that income has already been taxed at 35% at the corporate level.
We ignore Romney’s 30% donation to charity, just as we ignore that Obama’s half brother lives in abject poverty in Kenya and Obama does nothing.
So, the polls may be wrong. But most of the population is equally deluded.
Romney releases his 2011 tax returns, and Harry Reid publicly declares, ‘he’s hiding something, he’s hiding something’.
Obama spends millions keeping his college transcripts sealed, and does Reid say, ‘he’s hiding something’?
Polling firms much remind me of ‘consulting firms’ where as the contractor for the firms lay out the desired outcomes, and the consultants provide the bs to support those desires.
The oldest game in the propagandist’s play book is to convince public opposition to an incumbent that they can’t win, that the incumbent is invincible, even before the polls open – they count on there being enough sheeple in the voting public who will buy the BS about Obama;s invincibility that they will either stay home out of dispair or vote Dem rather than vote for a losing “side” – don’t laugh, I’ve met people who think this way about voting.
I have seen several credible reports about robopolls that ask, “Who do you plan to vote for? Press 1 for Obama, 2 for Romney, 3 for other”. Respondent presses “2”. Poll goes on: “How enthusiastic are you in voting for Obama? Press 1 for “very enthusiastic”…and so on.
So, if they have to resort to transparent tricks like this to up their poll numbers, their own internal polling must be at rock bottom.
EXCLUSIVE: ROMNEY DOUBLE POLL SHOCK!
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html
– Rasmussen: Tie. Gallup: Tie.
– Obama convention bounce in largest and most consistent samples gone!
– Five to seven point lead evaporates!
– Mainstream media at loss to explain!
I keep going back to my unscientific bumper sticker poll. There aren’t any this year.
Almost nobody’s got a Romney OR an Obama sticker in Boston Mass, one of the most liberal places on Earth. Political conversations I overheard while walking about at MIT were not pro-Obama, quite the reverse. People have not stopped spontaneously yelling about the national debt in grocery stores according to my most recent trip.
Americans are -afraid-. They are buying guns and ammunition in record-breaking amounts.
Balance all that against the “polls”.
Debates….that is the major political event worth paying attention to.
I have said before, there is no picture around of romney and obama meeting. i dont know if they ever have. that picture and the subsequent images from the debate will be telling.
the dems have painted romney as out of touch and evil. when romney doesnt live up to that image then there is a problem. and obama, well he is supposed to be the most articulate, unflappable and smartest guy evah! live up to that.
success in the debate, by either one, will drive this election.
David Southam and Phantom, hmmm, I’m not so sure of your hopes.
My own view is that Obama has spent over 40 years developing his performance. That’s all he is, a Performer.
This performance is that he, of the Mega-Watt smile, the jokes, the laugh, is like your distant cousin, the nice guy who’s always ready to play and throw the ball around. And then, he’s gone for another six months. He’s not responsible for the food on the table, the hydro bill, the jobs you have. He is NOT Responsible!
What’s Obama doing now? Blaming Congress for not doing their job. He’s got it all pat, and a great many Americans and the CBC and Canada have accepted the Obama narrative. Nothing is his fault. He’s not connected; he’s that distant cousin who drops in from time to time and plays a great game of checkers with you. Then he leaves.
The recession is due to Bush and the wealthy bankers; the stimulus worked; the debt is irrelevant and not a problem now. Just a few days ago, he told Letterman that he didn’t ‘remember what it is precisely’ now. He can’t remember if it’s 10 or whatever trillion.
Anything else? Unemployment is, ah, get over it; food stamps are up and that means people get food; gas prices are up, so, drive less and save the environment. Food prices are up? So eat less and don’t be obese.
Blaming a video by a demented American individual for inflaming normally peaceful and likable Islamists;hmm, he doesn’t blame the rioters. Other issues? heck he doesn’t know.
Obama deliberately divorces himself from any and all reality. He’s not causal of anything. But gosh, he’s got that mega-watt smile. And if you don’t like him, you’re just a racist.
Don’t underestimate Obama’s capacity for manipulation. The huge numbers who swoon over him, in the US and in Canada, mean something besides their stupidity.
Oh I just love the excuses!! It’s the polls, it’s the ‘lame-stream’ media, it’s the deluded population, it’s the solar flares eminating from the left side of the sun causing more people to be left-wing!! You rightwingers are truly hilarious. Never does it enter your miniscule minds that possibly Romney is a horrible candidate. Come on, let the truth set you free! Conservative pundits everywhere are lamenting his campaign (see Bill Kristol, Michael Gerson, Peggy Noonan et al) But according to you guys it’s everybody elses fault. Are you tuly that delusional?! That’s frightening! Maybe you’ll see the light come November.
steve the obvious leftist said: “Never does it enter your miniscule minds that possibly Romney is a horrible candidate.”
Nice manners steve. I don’t disagree with the “possibly Romney is a horrible candidate” part. I think they’d have been better off running Rubio myself, but I didn’t get a vote.
However, as usual, in your partisan zeal you miss the point. It doesn’t matter who the Republican candidate is. They could be running a yellow dog. The point is that the polls do not reflect the mood of the nation. As you would know if you ever went there.
The polls, furthermore, are free propaganda provided by private firms to ONE SIDE in the election. Which is, as I’m sure you know, completely illegal.
One side is totally cheating, one side isn’t. You’re on the cheating side, stevie baby. I’m pretty happy to be off your friends list.
Steve, 3:53p.m. —
I don’t know anything about solar flares, but I do know that if a poll is going to be accurate for the population as a whole, it needs to reflect the population as a whole — not some subset of it. And where the sample in a poll contains differences between it and the population it seeks to measure (i.e., contains bias), the margin of error of a poll does not apply to the population as a whole, but only to that particular subset that the poll represents.
So, back to you, can you assure us that the polls showing a lead for Obama reflect the US population as a whole (particularly with respect to party affiliation of those sampled, which is surely the leading indicator of presidential candidate perference)? I would appreciate it if you could provide references in support of your answer. I’m genuinely curious — it would be helpful to resolve the matter conclusively.
ET, my “hopes” are based more on the rapidly shrinking MSM audience than on anything else. They are ratcheting up the hype to an ever-decreasing number of eyeballs.
Plus the turnout at completely unreported Tea Party events continues to be very high and very well behaved.
And really, there’s hardly any bumper stickers out there.
Obama barely beat McCain at the height of Obamania.
I think general voters have already ticked off, “Vote for a black president” from their to-do list and the past four years haven’t been great in the meantime.
Presidents aren’t re-elected when the unemployment rate is above 7.5%
There’s the ‘Shy Tory’ effect, in which people don’t want to look racist by voting against a black guy.
The swing states aren’t doing that well economically.
The University of Colorado guys that predicted wins in the past are giving the election to Romney.
It’ll probably be a GOP sweep.
Everyone knows a republican win will mean one week of crystal nights
Cal2 is exactly right.
It is very unfortunate but the MSM constantly reinforcing Demo positions does sway public opinion. Canada’s most recent example was the WildRose debacle in Alberta.
Er…the polls all had WR way ahead. Oops.
There tends to be a Dem edge in elections. What this guy is talking about sounds like conspiracy theory. Obama will probably win.
Oh cripes, Kate, your side is losing because your candidate sucks. Plain and simple. The polls are accurate. There is no mass conspiracy.
This election could have been a fight if the GOP had given the nod to someone else, but they chose to go with the detached robot who belongs to a cult. What do you expect? Stop making excuses.