27 Replies to “The Children Are Our Future”

  1. I am sure glad nothing like that happens in our public school system.
    Wonder why the BC teachers hate government testing? And the Fraser Institute?

  2. Ironically, the incentives provided for teachers to teach better, are also incentives for teachers to cheat better!
    Without some moral backbone, attempts to use an economics approach — programming incentives into the system to improve students’ ability — fail spectacularly.
    If everyone tries to game the system, soon there will be no system left to game.
    “You are the salt of the earth. But what good is salt if it has lost its flavor? Can you make it salty again? It will be thrown out and trampled underfoot as worthless.”
    Apparently, we haven’t learned much in two thousand years.

  3. If the end result is what comes out of grade 12 then we were screwed a long time ago. If the inability to read, write ,spell or do basic math is a success story then I would certainly hate to see what failure looks like. Certainly not all, but a disheartening number that will go through life asking if you want fries with that. They will not understand, because all their school years they were told they were special, they were all NO.1 with many medals in participation. Eventually they will learn that they were betrayed by people with a agenda that had nothing to do with education. By self serving socialists and social engineers infesting every school board , college and university and by brainwashed or apathetic parents who trusted a system that lost its moral compass decades ago. Useful idiots are not born, they are carefully molded and shaped to meet future demand. Where would Justin Trudeau or Obama be without them ?

  5. How long will it be before all employers start to administer their own tests of scholastic ability before hiring someone? Right now academic transcripts appear to have as much connection to reality as the glowing reports by factory managers in the USSR of how they had greatly exceeded their quotas specified in the last 5 year plan. One solution to this problem would be to replace teachers with objective state tests which would be computer graded in a location monitored by surveillance cameras. Also putting all teachers who participate in cheating in front of a firing squad might serve as a disincentive.

  6. Read the comments written by teachers. If this is the standard of written English by teachers what chance do their students have?
    – I have been a NYC teacher for thirteen years…Being a veteran teacher, I’m literally having to talk new teachers into not quitting and holding the students hands while they cry due to the fact they are not prepared for the material at hand.
    – I’m an English teacher at a public high school in NYC,…Students can choose where they wish to sit, and sit less than a yard away from another student.
    – I am a retired chemistry teacher from Texas…. For something that is so important to our country, teachers are asked to do all kinds of extra duties, constantly tutor all students to pass the standardized tests, and time is consistantly being removed from our classes so the actual teaching of students is less.
    – As a former high school teacher and department chair, I can attest that this is not exclusive to Atlanta, GA. I witnessed 4 faculty meeting with seniors and providing them with printed copies of the our state’s standardized test, complete with answers, a week before the test was administered. …
    I approached the school’s principal, my boss, and presented her with a copy of the “study guide”. She opened the test materials and we compared the “guide” with the actual test booklet. It was a perfect match, item by item. I later faxed a copy of the “guide” to the state testing coordinator, who called me and agree it was a compete match of the test. He said he had forwarded the issue to the state commission of education. The following Monday, I was counselled about my actions. The four teachers involved were informed that I had forwarded the issue to the State office. I was ostracized for months. Ironically, the students figured out what happened and many refused to take the test. Many students commented that it was a bad lesson for them to learned as they departed high school on their way to post-secondary education or the job market.

  7. Increasingly, there’s lying and cheating, it seems, at all levels of government and “public service.” Take off with as much money as you can for personal use and lie about your accomplishments. ‘Make life difficult for anyone who objects.
    In addition to the blatant lying and cheating, her school district spent $100,000 a year for a security detail to drive Superintendent/Commandant Hall around the city. (‘Sounds a lot like Obama-level spending.)
    This is how things work in Banana Republics. The U.S. (and Canada, especially when the Librano$ and/or the NDP are at the helm) are fast becoming Banana Republics. I’m at the point where I trust very few people in positions of “authority.” Most haven’t a clue how to take legitimate authority — quite possibly because they short-circuited the system getting to the top — and often seem clueless when it comes to actually performing the job they were hired to do.
    ‘No hills to head to. Like I say, prayer time, folks.

  8. I wish my teacher would have done that for me. Teachers were too honest back then.

  9. How would you guess that a BC provincial election was in the offing? You got it, the BCTF has trotted out their ‘poor student’ add campaign. The province is already ran by the BCTF and health care unions and CUPE so why would they feel threatened. Well they don’t, they simply want more.

  10. These won’t be the last to do this. Only the first to get caught.
    Now we know why university students aren’t expelled after being caught cheating. “Teachers” do it themselves.
    And get paid.
    With a pension.
    At age 52-55.
    Etc.
    Boy!!!

  11. Are we surprised that dogmatic progressives have no ethical or moral absolutes? All their unethical/immoral acts are justified/rationalized by the fact they are on a utopian crusade or cause – ends justify means in the commie mind. This is why the most corrupt governments ever were communist and why the most corrupt people ever are those who abandon moral and ethical absolutes for idealistic dogma.
    – Here’s another case.

  12. Increasingly, there’s lying and cheating, it seems, at all levels of government and “public service.”
    This is the impact of allowing such high levels of Asian immigration into our culture. When cultures meet, they always absorb each other’s vices first and much later their virtues, if at all.
    Lying, cheating, and bribery are not considered vices in Asian culture. Our politicians knew before hand that our culture of trust could not sustain such levels of immigration from these countries.
    Welcome to the post-Christian world.

  13. Former Superintendent Hall should be sentenced to the strap followed by ten years in detention. Force her to write a million lines on the chalkboard, “I WILL NOT LIE OR CHEAT.” Sloppy writing will not be counted toward the million lines.
    Hall and her confederates should be forced to repay incentives awarded to them plus interest and penalties (just like tax evaders) and forfeit future benefits such as pensions.

  14. Wow, a whole decade this went on. No wonder they have lil animated icons on the McDonald’s cash registers.

  15. And the root cause? Because schools the perform better get more funding under GWB’s No Child Left Behind, thereby creating an incentive to cheat. Because, you know… what under-performing schools really need is LESS funding.
    Once again, Republican policy fails completely.

  16. Standardized testing is good, but it should be done from a central authority, not by the involved teachers themselves. Back in the Stone Age, when I graduated from Grade 13 (Ontario), our exams were sent off for central marking. I was happy with that because I passed Physics when my teacher assured me that I would fail 😉 Removing bias is related to removing temptation.

  17. “This is the impact of allowing such high levels of Asian immigration into our culture. When cultures meet, they always absorb each other’s vices first and much later their virtues, if at all. Lying, cheating, and bribery are not considered vices in Asian culture.”
    Wow. Just read this. SDA at it’s best. I don’t like to just come out and call people #@!ing idiots, but let’s not pull punches on this one.
    So what you are saying is that before Asians came, we didn’t have bribery? Genius. Pure genius. Contrary to your idiot beliefs, bribery is in fact a vice in South East Asian countries, which is why you can be charged with it:
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Bribe-charges-in-another-copter-deal/articleshow/19352456.cms
    I guess it’s impressive that you can even type with a mind as feeble as yours. Or did you have your helper monkey do it for you?

  18. Re Centralizing standardized testing to prevent cheating/ Great idea. And that level of bureaucracy will cost how much? Not saying it shouldn’t be done, but if you’re a tax-cuttin’ tea partier, you can’t go coming up with ideas that cost money. Cut baby, cut!

  19. Where’s Morgan Freeman when you need him? I mean, he ‘played’ a successful teacher in a bad neighbourhood once and I think his wife is still in high-school.

  20. As I have been want to say here for some time… the theft of our children’s and grandchildren’s educations is well underway.
    And, regarding Public Schools(in Saskatchewan)… get your kids out now!
    The bottom line is this… kids coming from the Saskatchewan Public School System will not be able to compete abroad. Period! That means YOUR kid!
    My thirteen year old was an A student for her entire life in Saskatchewan; which translated to F’s and D’s at her current private school in Arizona. I shudder to think what those Saskatchewan A’s would translate to in schools around the world.
    My message is this… no matter what your kid’s marks are, and no matter how intelligent they may be, THEY ARE BEING ROBBED OF THEIR EDUCATION BY SELF-SERVING UNION SCUM!
    I recommend acquiring some of these standardized math and English exams and testing your child. You might find that they are literally years behind students the same age going to academic focused private schools.jmo

  21. I am fond of this quote from George W Bush when he was speaking in Saskatoon: “At the end of the school year we should be asking our students ‘what they know? Not, how old they are?'”.
    THIS simple bit of reasoning, if applied, would go a long way to solving our problems with Public Education. Unfortunatly, this runs completly contrary to a system that is first and foremost set-up to provide union jobs.

  22. Aviator, agree completely. I too graduated from high school in the neolithic era and, in Alberta at that time, there were province wide final exams. The teachers hated them as 100% of ones mark for the year was based on that exam and their official line was that the exams were “too stressful”.
    I did very well on the grade 12 final exams and had a number of teachers who told me that, were it up to them, I’d get a failing mark in their non-science course. My French teacher, in particular, told me that the mark she’d give me for the course, based on my performance during the year, was 5% and was trying to convince me to not write the exam. As it was, I got 60% in French – by far my lowest mark, but a pass. My French teacher wouldn’t let me write programs in her class and so I just got into an altered state of consciousness while there by breathing once/minute for the duration of the class. If I happened to be in the expiratory phase of my 1 minute respiratory cycle, I’d answer any question asked of me with “je ne sais pas”.
    Being not at all worried by exams, I’ve always done well on them unless I have no knowledge of the subject. Standardized testing is a key to determining whether people are learning anything. I very much doubt that most teachers would be able to pass a standardized test on university level material in the subject that they teach.

  24. John at 3:49pm – Centralized marking doesn’t cost anything if you use teachers who would otherwise have the summer off to do the marking. Paying folks up to $94,000 per year and giving them 57 more days off than the average worker is not good economics.

  25. Enough can be said about bad teachers, badly written curricula and corrupt school board members. However, we must note that students and their parents are also responsible for outcomes. If a student doesn’t work hard, he doesn’t get ahead. If his parents don’t foster an environment in which the student can thrive and learn, he will not do well anywhere in life. It’s easy (and often correct) to point to the crappy schools but don’t forget that everything begins in the home.

  26. So what you are saying is that before Asians came, we didn’t have bribery?
    ~John the #@!ing idiot
    Not at all. Here, let me torch your straw man.
    What I said was that in Asian culture bribery it isn’t a vice, neither are kickbacks.
    Just because Indians, who were ruled by the British, have a law on the books against bribery in no way diminishes the fact that bribery is an accepted part of life in Indian culture, and other Asian cultures, rather than seen as a vice. Sure they’ll put a law on the books to mollify mooks like you.
    That said, if a bribe is excessive then it will be seen as a bad thing and revolted against within the culture itself.
    We have strict laws in Canada specifically implying that bribes are necessary to get business done in Asia and these laws forbid Canadian companies from bribing Asian officials even if it means losing to, say, the French who have no problem with bribery.
    For those people, like John, to whom bribery-as-an-acceptable-part-of-Asian-culture-not-seen-as-a-vice-by-people-in-that-culture is a new idea:
    http://tinyurl.com/cxud8vp
    http://tinyurl.com/c7yvqmk

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