A Winnipeg Free Press poll goes horribly wrong… “Does Canada need a national inquiry into the disproportionately high number of missing and murdered aboriginal women?”
h/t Orville
A Winnipeg Free Press poll goes horribly wrong… “Does Canada need a national inquiry into the disproportionately high number of missing and murdered aboriginal women?”
h/t Orville
Where in the RCMP reports does it say “disproportionately high number of missing and murdered aboriginal women?”
When this issue popped up in spring, I did some quick back-of-the-envelope calculations. Aboriginal women are getting murdered at the exact same rate as non-aboriginal women. Lumping “missing” in with “murdered” is clearly being done to inflate the numbers. I have no doubt that aboriginal women run away from their homes or the reservation at higher rates than non-aboriginal women, but it’s not clear to me that that’s anything other than people getting the hell out of a bad home situation.
I say the aboriginals did it. Not that that is what I wish for, but anyone who grew up next to a reserve knows why there is a “disproportionately high number of missing and murdered aboriginal women”.
A poll done by the Winnipeg Free Press
Bear in mind that Winnipeg is where the Tina Fontaine tragedy occurred.
The recent addition of Harper vilifier Liberal Shannon Sampert to guide the WFP editorial pages and do soft ball interviews with Justin is in peril.
Stunning how the NPD and Liberals never seem to twig that a man who gets charged with spousal assault, then gets a get out of jail free pass might think little of reoffending.
Courtesy of the systemic racism of low expectation.
Otherwise known as the Gladue Decision from our unelected overlords of the Supreme Court.
But of course such a man will be so grateful to the court and his spouse for pointing out the error of his ways, that he would never get drunk and beat the love of his life to death.
Inconceivable Eh?
These political parasites are up to their old tricks, pretending to care as they bottom feed for votes.
Shutting down the Indian Industry would go a long way toward saving the lives of lots of Aboriginal Canadians.
Hanging these treacherous creeps who are feeding upon the blood and misery of a systemically marginalized people would also improve the social tone.
Of course neither will happen in our lifetimes as too many politicians and bureaucrats have a vested interest in fomenting this misery and dividing Canadian society ever further.
They should also keep records of investigations stalled or left unsolved by uncooperative witnesses from the community or the representatives for those communities.
Done!
I don’t want to be misinterpreted as a guy that likes to see Aboriginal women killed or hurt. But there are two facets to this story (proposed inquiry into Aboriginal women and violence) that need to be discussed.
A: Canada has mobility rights which means you and I can travel anywhere at will within this nation. How can the feds or the provincial governments possibly stop a young woman from getting on a bus in Regina or Winnipeg and travel to Calgary (or wherever) where she can get involved in illicit activity that can often lead to her death??
B: How many young Aboriginal women will hop on a bus and get off at a major city where they get involved with questionable individuals? Hundreds! Why would these women want to be found?? If they did they’d just phone home! Where does the government (police etc.) have the right to come up to an individual and ask them a question like: ”Why are you living in Calgary??”
My aunt was living in Ottawa. She worked for the Surgeon General’s office for a good part of her life, her husband was an accountant in the RCAF. Hardly the type of people that ever go missing. After my uncle died, she suffered a stroke and was taken to a hospital by ambulance. My Dad (her bro) wasn’t aware that she was sick, so he phoned the Ottawa police and the RCMP to find her. We were told time and again that we had no right to that information unless they received a court order or document that allowed them to release the info. Eventually, we hired an individual of questionable ethics who found her in a hospital. I can imagine the scene where an individual would have been avoiding us.
Finding aboriginal women in hiding?? Another CinemaScope of leftist dreams!
Proportionate to what exactly?
To woman of other ethnicities who live on Indian reservations?
How about Indian men? Are there a lot of those murdered and going missing, proportionately speaking?
I’m sure they will run a disclaimer like the one done in the last week by the Globe I think, once they realize the poll results atren’t what they wanted.
Was Bob Rae in the general area when this bit
of anti-Harper theatrics was being scripted?
B.S. wording but I just voted ‘no’ and noticed that the ‘yes’ votes were exactly 666 ha-ha!
next up an inquire to find out why a disproportionate number of young black males die of lead poisoning
Proving yet again that the media is populated by disingenuous morons.
Place native children in the best foster homes regardless of the race of the adults.
Allow the best parents to adopt native children regardless of their race.
Those two simple proposals will save more lives than a dozen inquiries.
Racism, greed, and political correctness by the native and political leaders of this country kill more native women and children every year than a dozen Robert Picktons. They just don’t do it directly or quickly.
This is an Alberta story. The numbers are comparable across the country.
” More likely to die of accidents, suicide and homicide; children also more at risk if under care of federally funded on-reserve agencies ”
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/life/Deaths+Alberta+aboriginal+children+care+fluke+statistics/9212384/story.html
Every time an aboriginal woman is killed they call for an inquiry. What have they done since the last call for inquiry to address the conditions in their communities that cause girls [and boys] to get involved with gangs, drugs, and risky behavior? As well, nearly twice as many aboriginal men are killed. Why the selective outrage?
If the aboriginals want to waste their money on an inquiry, nobody is stopping them, however it would be better if they used their resources to address the root of the problem which everyone is pretending to ignore.
This is a predominately aboriginal problem that begins at an early age in aboriginal communities. If these communities spent less money on Chiefs and Councilors and more on raising healthy children, then this problem would be solved. The aboriginal communities are the only ones who can fix this and they already get enough money to do it IF they want to.
sign in is futzed
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how about a national inquiry into the disproportionately high number of dead aboriginal children versus non-aboriginal?
we’ve had those numbers for over a decade but somehow the media can’t seem to work up a similar outrage.
“The rate of deaths from injuries is 3 to 4 times higher for Aboriginal children than for other children in Canada.”
Source: Government of Canada (2002) Healthy Canadians – A Federal Report on Comparable Health Indicators 2002. Ottawa: Health Canada.
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Poll needs more help, progressives are waking up
The stupidity of having an inquiry to determine the worst kept secret in this country seems to elude the media…. that or they willingly ignore it.
The common thread that these missing women all have is that of the reserves.
If there is a shared responsibility for this it lies at the feet of the chiefs and their councils….which is also willingly ignored by the media.
If there was an honest inquiry into this “issue” yet again I have no doubt the ones crying loudest for it would end up embarrassed and unavailable for comment. They don’t realize how big a favour PMSH is doing by not bending to their demands for a travelling road show.
An inquiry would be a mammoth make work project for legals and media to the tune of billions over two years to tell us nothing, solve nothing. The changes needed to improve the mess we call Native Reserves would not be acceptable to the Indians or politicians calling for an inquiry.
Having an Inquiry on this would prove the callous and wanton disrespect shown the taxpayers of this country. It would be a blame fest of major proportions, a circus with a bevy of clowns in business suits looking for places to lay blame. When it’s all over, our money down the drain, the recommendations will be optional, back to square one.
We can only hope this poll is a small indicator of public awareness of the latest special interest-Lieberal political scam de jour in an endless chain of manufactured evils used to manipulate public opinion – in this case to have a focus for humanitarian thinking to divert attention from the inadequacy of Liberal leadership.
Librano spinners know the dialectic of control well – problem (which thy create)- reaction (which they direct with emotional pleas) and solutions (they table their special interest agenda as the solution to the problems they manufacture). the process is old and should give off a repulsive odor from age and over use, but each election cycle throws another generation of LIVs into the number of fools they can dupe with this old political hustle. We are doomed to fall prey to these deceptions until the media returns to its roll of policy scrutineer instead of auctioneer for fallacious partisan policy.
For each reserve in Canada, it would be interesting to correlate:
the income of the chief of the reserve;
the average income of the residents of that reserve;
the number of violent incidents of that reserve, detailed by type if possible.
And publish it all, perhaps divided by province.
That might tell an interesting tale.
Shame on all the premiers, especially the ones who bloody well know better, like Wall, for jumping on this B.S. bandwagon. But as I said to my wife last night, if there’s only one thing the premiers can ever agree on when they gather together, it’s that they want the feds to do something.
The inquiry’s obvious conclusion would be “Aboriginals need mo’money for blahblahblah services, mo’money for government department XYZ to deliver blahblahblah services, but government has no say in how aboriginals spend mo’money, because racism. Aboriginals are under no responsibility whatsoever to change anything about themselves, their culture, or how they live their lives, and how dare any racist white men, especially conservatives (but we repeat ourselves), say otherwise.”
There. Gimmie my check for umpteenty million dollars please. I just did the work of a two-year royal commission for you.
Hmm. A 360% increase in the ‘yes’ vote overnight when they’re an hour behind the eastern time zone. (About 9:20 now here.) Too bad I didn’t note the ‘no’ vote last night too.
A disproportionately large number of aboriginals are doing time for violent crimes. First, they are killing each other. Second, they are creating situations where native women flee the reserves to save their lives or well being and they enter into high risk lives styles. Witness the murder and mayhem on the four reserves at Hobbema, Alberta.
Do we think any inquiry is going to blame the Indians themselves? That isn’t what the Indian Industry is about. It’s white man’s fault.
Andrew Coyne National Post
Excellent article by a Liberal journalist
“Call for a public inquiry on murdered aboriginal women isn’t justified”
http://o.canada.com/news/national/coyne-why-the-call-for-a-public-inquiry-on-murdered-aboriginal-women-isnt-justified …
Yes, good column by Coyne. Every now and then the Lib Left journalists need to show they’re capable of thinking beyond their biases while salvaging some credibility showing they’re capable with some balance which helps them whichever side they take.
It would be nice if the Conservatives would come out explaining their case better rather than sitting back and letting the blowbags have center stage and state their opinions over and over abetted by their media pals, running down the PM and his stand. Sitting back and letting the bullies take over is not what I support the party to do.
The murder rate among aboriginal men is more than twice as high as it is for aboriginal women
This is an excerpt from Andrew Coyne’s excellent article and is one of the many compelling reasons he has to offer, why an enquiry is not necessary, and moreso not the direction the country should take in spending millions of dollars to tackle this problem. Do we have to ask the question of the Aboriginal leadership, politicians and others why they voice no concern, and create a hysteria, about the more than alarming murder rates for aboriginal men in comparison to women?
Obviously the murder rate is far from being an Aboriginal woman phenomenon but is an Aboriginal phenomenon and until we recognize it as such, and acknowledge it, then politicians are only paying lip service and playing politics with the problem.
“Still, that aboriginal women are five times more likely to be murdered than non-aboriginal women is obviously an outrage and a disgrace. But if so, the murder rate among aboriginal men is surely twice as outrageous and disgraceful. For indeed, the murder rate among aboriginal men is more than twice as high as it is for aboriginal women. Strangely, this never seems to come up; where it is mentioned, it is mostly in passing, as if not to interrupt the narrative of a unique wrong having been committed against aboriginal women.”
“The dysfunction that afflicts many (but by no means all) aboriginal communities has been amply documented, as have its causes, from economic deprivation to the devastating legacy of the residential schools to the cultural trauma of colonialism generally.” Coyne
That useless blather covers the blissful ignorance of TODAYS aboriginal policies. It is today’s Policies that are resulting in far greater abuse & disgrace. The blame game must stop, along with deliberate aboriginal miss-direction. Self Government is a total failure
Canada needs a Manhattan like Project to save the children “The Australian Emergency (child) Act 2007”
Suspend the Indian Act, Suspend tribal authority, suspend Welfare without conditions. Alcohol & drug abuse.
No more “Angels in the Snow” (Children frozen on a Sask Reserve)
JMHO