And another poll on personal health care freedom: Should people be allowed to get faster health service if they pay out of pocket?
The last one went pretty well, if I do say so myself.
And another poll on personal health care freedom: Should people be allowed to get faster health service if they pay out of pocket?
The last one went pretty well, if I do say so myself.
If I recall the information correctly there are three countries in the world that seriously restrict the rights of it’s citizens to purchase health care. Those countries are North Korea, Cuba and Canada. If that is true, then we keep good company.
56 to 44 % say yes. Vote people!
With reference to NK – state medicine – wonder why Kim Jong is out of action – I’m thinking LA, baby – lipo – lose a few … Canadian politics…
People who support themselves, their families, and, through taxes, numerous other hangers-on should have the freedom to pay for health care without travelling. Cam Broten and other politicians and government employees won’t suffer reduced income while waiting for treatment, though they will likely have connections to be served swiftly. The self-employed and others compensated without a guaranteed paycheque cannot afford to forgo income while on a lengthy waiting list.
I can’t see the poll at the link.
“though they will likely have connections to be served swiftly”
Politicians, police, and Indians are 1st Tier healthcare recipients.
They do not wait, period. The rest of us legacy Canadians wait in line with whomever just got off an airplane.
Do you think that these Social Healthcare Puritans would also be in favour of “free” government funded brake jobs?
All brake repairs must be done at the Petro Canada station and you have to park your car until your number is called.
Been there, done that. Had a herniated disc in my lower back and would have to wait 9 weeks for an MRI, went across the river to Hull and got one the next day for $550. I was self employed and laying in a bed (in big time pain) for nine weeks would have ruined me.
I would like to ask members of the socialist-wanker-continuum, “how would bankrupting me benefit society”? Someone else got theirs and hour earlier due to me.
I did it again when I had carpal tunnel syndrome; next day service in Hull. All the professional sports teams have their own MRI machines, they can’t afford to wait either. I think that means there is really three levels of health care.
When I vote or even just click on see results the ctv poll just disappears, HUH.
Whacko!
I get a chuckle out of the line that if you allow folks to pay out of pocket that the wealthy will get better service.
Of course they will, yet somehow these intellectual giants of the niavely useful socialist set can’t make the conclusion that if you do the things in life that leads to success you will live to experience this ability.
Socialism- trying to make us* all equally poor
*all except the ones that are more equal.
Are people at CTV really that stupid to run polls like this, hoping to get the results they want? Ya know, you can’t fix stupid. The old country girl and I had a disagreement last night. I explained to her that life is too short so you shouldn’t waste precious time on doing stupid. There ain’t no do-overs. What our northern cousins have to worry about is that stupid attracts stupid, and these news types may convert over some of our weaker minded cousins. (OCG spent a half hour splitting an obviously unsplittable piece of knarled wood and totally exhausted herself.)
NDP leader Cam Broten thinks that the government should invest more public money into the system. Great idea Cam! Typical NDP solution to everything. Lets raise taxes back to previous levels or even higher. Make the rich pay! That should fix everything.
What those stuck in the 70’s mindset cannot seem to comprehend is that if I am 10th in line for an MRI and the 9 ahead of me opt to pay out of their own pockets for private care, suddenly I am 1st in line. Horray! If 9 people behind me in line decide to go the private route, I am still in 10th place. What have I lost? Exactly nothing. Oh I can piss and moan about the fact that these 9 “rich” people are getting looked after before me but the fact remains that I have not lost any ground whatsoever.
The simple truth of the matter is that, despite living in the best province in Canada, our health care is a disgraceful mess. At least Premier Wall is examining a new, common sense approach to cleaning up the mess rather than simply throwing more of your money and mine at the problem.
As others have mentioned, I clicked YES and the poll disappeared. So I went back twice more and voted YES.
Private diagnostic clinics give regular people the chance to obtain services that the “rich” have always been able to get. Restricting them does not limit the “rich”, it only limits the rest of us.
What you Canadians need to consider is that when Obamacare really kicks in down here you may not have the option of popping over the border to get what you need. Not that I care.
Good luck with that one. The Canada Health Act currently has the support of 95% of all adult Canadians. Touching it means instant electrocution for any party.A small part is the demographic problem. The ratio of those 40 and up makes up 50% of the population, while those 18-40 make up 40% of the population. The older you get the more likely you are accessing the health care system with health problems that require more longer term care.
The bigger problem is wages and benefits. Saskatchewan needs to look no further then the salaries being paid to those in the healthcare system, backed up by their unions. In the Saskatoon region alone with more than 14,000 nurses, health care providers, support workers, managers and physicians, salaries make up about 70 per cent of the region’s annual budget. The operating budget in 2011-2012 was $998.8 million.
The problem with Canadian Healthcare is the same problem everywhere else in Canada, where the unions through collective bargaining are allowed to hold hostage any institution until their outlandish wages and benefits demands are met. This skews the principles of supply and demand which in turn results in higher operating costs until the entity collapses under the financial strain or in the case of government , raises taxes or fees to address the shortfall. Allowing private clinics to increase the supply side who will also be subject to this same system does nothing to address the root of the problem, except add ammunition to those advocating higher taxes. If 9 out of 10 people see no problem paying more for an MRI then those 9 people should be happy when government decides to expropriate their tax dollars to decrease MRI wait times.
If you want to see a socialist majority government in your neck of the woods, go ahead, advocate this and see what happens. You are in the minority.
The wealthy will always have things we don’t have. What is deliberately lost in this debate is that a good deal of people seeking private treatment aren’t wealthy and are paying a considerable amount to get timely, efficient care they cannot get elsewhere. Narratives and such.
The question “Should people be allowed to get faster health service if they pay out of pocket?” is a loaded one because it carries the suggestion that they’re asking whether people who use the publicly funded health care system should get faster service by paying an extra fee, with the concomitant implication that people who are unable to afford the extra fee would get slower service.
The truth is that as long as every taxpayer continues to pay for the publicly funded system, allowing private care would have the exact opposite effect, because every one who chooses not to use use the public system is in effect leaving more resources to those people who exclusively use the public system.
If half of all taxpayers decided to spend their after-tax income on private health care instead of using the public system, there’d be double the resources, and half the waiting times, for people using the public system. Why would any supporter of the public system object to that?
Vote early, vote often!
1. Navigate to http://regina.ctvnews.ca
2. Copy the link http://regina.ctvnews.ca
3. Vote at that webpage
4. Erase cache.
5. Repeat 500 times.
1313 voted now, 74% yes
Choice is a good thing. Ask any woman.
“Why would any supporter of the public system object to that?”
They object because they are into the politics of envy, resentment, and hatred, in short, Socialism. They don’t consider it “fair” that people can choose to pay for something directly which conflicts with their sacred piety that equality of condition is utopian. That private options actually shorten the waiting time of single-payer, rationed delivery is reality denied by virtue of the sanctity of the system as well as the fear that alternatives may somehow weaken the public’s commitment to the status quo “utopia”. Pain and misery built into the system’s necessarily rationed and hence delayed delivery is an outcome of the expectation of shared and coerced sacrifice by the socialist mentality. Finally, the public enjoys widespread acceptance of the status quo due to the perception that they are getting stuff in greater value than what they personally pay through the tax system and for a significant number of Canadians, that is likely true.
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