All Articles of the Growth, Produce, or Manufacture of any one of the Provinces shall, from and after the Union, be admitted free into each of the other Provinces.
All Articles of the Growth, Produce, or Manufacture of any one of the Provinces shall, from and after the Union, be admitted free into each of the other Provinces.
The US system is not perfect, in PA the price of Gas & Booze was always more than in NJ.. The traffic across the Bridge from Philadelphia during Holiday season was always more than noticeable.. Loading Trunks with Booze & filling gas tanks… The rumor that license plates were been reported slowed it down, but they never stopped it…Taxes are not exactly defend able and media attention would have increased the traffic
Remember when Bev McLaughlin said that “free expression” in Canada doesn’t mean “free speech” …
This won’t be the first time, nor will it be the last time, that the Canadian Supreme Court sets the constitution aside, and decides that it knows best what’s best for us.
Which is perhaps the greatest reason that the west should seperate from the east, and have a real constitution that limits government intrusion into our lives, instead of the POS that Trudeau Sr. foisted upon us.
Yeah they want to sign free trade agreements with countries in the 4 corners of the world but you can’t even properly conduct commerce in our own.
There is virtually no free trade between provinces. Trade certification is not recognized as are professional designations. Some thing as basic as a trappers license isn’t accepted as qualification between provinces? Huh? A trappers license? In Canada? Just goes to show you how FU the game is.
These petty rules are an impediment to the creation of wealth. Coupled with our lax security laws, tax regime and a hostile development environment and you have a prescription for a poor investment climate.
Foreign capital demands heavy government involvement in situations where return on investment is uncertain because of all the rules. Who can blame them?
So, as we sit on the cusp of our 150th birthday have we achieved all we could? Is the country all it could be or have we been victimized by petty squabbles, small thinking and politics that promote stagnation?
Gawwd help the lad if he had stocked-up on Vaping products … across the internal Canadian trade borders.
Say … isnt the current PM fond of lecturing President Trump that … “it’s better to build bridges, than walls”
You are citing an article by Neil MacDonald on freer trade? Really? MacDonald is as red as they come. He’s making noise about trade barriers to beer – a cause celeb of sorts but ask him about union rules that prevent trade or rules on cabatoge or the media.
We should give him no credibility on this issue.
There are none so banal and useless as those who whine about the writer instead of the point.
ND has gone off reservation increasingly as of late. Actually it seems a lot of CBC commenters have with more frequency than a few years ago.
Pretty messed up when even Neil MacDonald gets it.
Funny country when interprovincial certification means one or two others and NOT Quebec also maybe Ontario, where they miss-define the trades to accomplish the same denial.
Of course Neil will be called in for reeducation…how dare he embarrass Generalisto Butts like this.
Trade certification is not recognized as are professional designations.
Legislation governing the engineering profession is a provincial matter and varies from one province to another.
In recent years, there has been some discussion between the various provincial professional engineering associations to allow for a degree of inter-provincial mobility. One way around it, of course, is to be registered in more than one jurisdiction, though one will have to pay the applicable fees in each region.
Ha, getting any politician or bureaucrat to address this topic is near impossible. I wish they would, because I’m tired of hearing me and everyone I ever met bitch about it. My thoughts…
Just imagine the redundancy and waste that would be exposed at many government levels by freer trade. That alone makes it a no-go zone for status-quo politicians.
That, and the RCMP currently have enough friggin’ real crime to manage without having to deal with fake crime too.
Finally, big changes would mean big upheaval for many industries as their client base, competitors, suppliers, etc. all shifted. The resulting competition would be a good thing for us middle-class taxpayers, which probably explains why few politicians give a shit about achieving it.
That’s my point.
These are artificial trade barriers that stifle the creation of wealth. Without getting into the machinations of who is a qualified engineer one would think that if you had an engineering degree from the U of O or U of A – your qualified. Having to go cap in hand and present your bonafides to some provincial professional association is a useless impediment designed to protect the locals. It adds nothing to the equation. If your credentials are from a foreign country – sure you go through the process.
But what about the hairdresser or trapper for that matter? How far down the food chain should the local rules extend?
I say loosen up the rules and quit adding road blocks to the legitimate growth of commerce. What the hell does the country exit for anyway?
max will press for changes. he has a great deal of support. he introduced this question into the conversation and anyone opposed will be run down in the traffic.
oops should be exist not exit.
And your prime minister is complaining about our president throwing out the NAFTA agreement? What a crock. The cynics are correct, Canada needs a Canadian free trade agreement.
I think this all goes back to the mid 1700’s. Americans decided that they would be free citizens. Canadians decided they would be happy subjects of some distant monarch.
America celebrates bootleggers and moonshiners. Rocky Top is the Tennessee state anthem. NASCAR stock car racing was started by moonshine runners looking for something to do on the Sabbath. Smokie and the Bandit ring a bell? Burt Reynolds smuggling a truckload of Coors beer from TX to Georgia? Before Coors expanded its production, everyone in the 1960’s and 70’s always brought a couple cases of Coors beer back home from skiing. It was the neighborly thing to do. Half the cigarettes sold in NYC don’t have NY tax stamps.
If you Neil MacDonald is some sort of ally with conservatives and free traders you are delusional.
Chief Justice Beverley McLaughlin has often said that the members of the SCC are intellectually so far above the ordinary Canadian,well,there’s simply no need for them to have to explain their logic to us.
They ARE our betters, we must trust in them,as though they were gods sent to Earth to guide us simpletons.
As for internal trade barriers, they enrich and protect the Old Boys Club of Canada,and though they might put on a show for the peasants, the unconstitutional part of the equation will be sustained,for the good of the Country.
Without getting into the machinations of who is a qualified engineer one would think that if you had an engineering degree from the U of O or U of A – your qualified.
It’s not that simple. In order to become registered as a professional engineer, one needs a minimum amount of applicable experience plus write exams about provincial legislation as well as ethics and responsibilities.
Let’s put it this way, would you want to be attended by a physician who simply has a degree or would you prefer someone who has demonstrated their capabilities?
I get what your saying. My point is this. If you’ve met all the criterion in say Ontario why do you have to once again present to some professional association in Saskatchewan? Why the redundancy? The costs to doing business are ridiculous.
In any event your right Don Morris it is an old boys club and the unconstitutionality of it isn’t going to be challenged.
If you’ve met all the criterion in say Ontario why do you have to once again present to some professional association in Saskatchewan? Why the redundancy?
There are slight variations in what’s required to become registered in each province. As I mentioned earlier, there have been some discussions about this.
Although this isn’t a criterion for registration, there are differences in industrial standards between provinces as well. Those could be likely to be more expensive than what’s required for professional registration.
Down here in North Carolina, the State slaps a whole list of taxes on “spiritous liquor” which add up to around $20 per bottle. Right across the border in South Carolina, the tax is only $2 per bottle. So naturally some folks make the drive to SC to stock up. To discourage that, North Carolina has a law limiting the transportation into the state of four liters of liquor. We also have laws forbidding the sale of alcohol on Sunday before noon. Our laws are left over from the Prohibition days. What’s Canada’s excuse?
Down here in North Carolina, the State slaps a whole list of taxes on “spiritous liquor” which add up to around $20 per bottle. Right across the border in South Carolina, the tax is only $2 per bottle. So naturally some folks make the drive to SC to stock up. To discourage that, North Carolina has a law limiting the transportation into the state of four liters of liquor. We also have laws forbidding the sale of alcohol on Sunday before noon. Our laws are left over from the Prohibition days. What’s Canada’s excuse?
Down here in North Carolina, the State slaps a whole list of taxes on “spiritous liquor” which add up to around $20 per bottle. Right across the border in South Carolina, the tax is only $2 per bottle. So naturally some folks make the drive to SC to stock up. To discourage that, North Carolina has a law limiting the transportation into the state of four liters of liquor. We also have laws forbidding the sale of alcohol on Sunday before noon. Our laws are left over from the Prohibition days. What’s Canada’s excuse?
for most of our history trade in Canada has been north south, not east west. interprovincial trade barriers hurt Canadians. we are just too uneducated to realize this. And our “betters” want to keep us this way.
“All Articles of the Growth, Produce, or Manufacture of any one of the Provinces shall, from and after the Union, be admitted free into each of the other Provinces.”
The vagaries of just what “admitted free” in that section actually means have been played on constantly – and successfully – by lawyers for the provinces. A provincial government will therefore tell you that they impose no tariffs on those Canadian goods (i.e., goods from another part of Canada) admitted into the province.
Weasel-wording at its finest!
It wasn’t that long ago that in almost all provinces, you couldn’t sell beer in the province unless you had a local brewery.
Nothing will change till the arguments for barrier free inter-provincial movement of goods and services is presented in the cold, hard and completely understandable language of “votes to be lost”, instead of arguments about economics or rights.
“Down here in North Carolina, the State slaps a whole list of taxes on “spiritous liquor” which add up to around $20 per bottle. Right across the border in South Carolina, the tax is only $2 per bottle. So naturally some folks make the drive to SC to stock up. To discourage that, North Carolina has a law limiting the transportation into the state of four liters of liquor. We also have laws forbidding the sale of alcohol on Sunday before noon. Our laws are left over from the Prohibition days. What’s Canada’s excuse?”
Well, for one thing, it’s not really a Canadian problem: the regulation of the sale of “spirituous liquor” is a wholly provincial power (just as, I suspect, it’s a state responsibility in the US).
So each province – like each US state – is free to impose its own regulations and taxes on booze. Although provincial liquor laws have come a long way, many of them still carry a whiff of Prohibition about them (except those of Québec which never really bought in to what was at heart a largely Protestant notion).
“I think this all goes back to the mid 1700’s. Americans decided that they would be free citizens. Canadians decided they would be happy subjects of some distant monarch.”
“How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty among the drivers of negroes?”
– Dr Samuel Johnson, 1775
McLaughlin is from Alberta isn’t she?
The Manitoban Glen Murray who came east to rule in Ontario.
Next thing we’ll have your Western socialized medicine infecting the eastern provinces.
Ontario sent the west Harper, Diefenbaker and Aberhart.
If y’all want to Know what having a (Proven Corrupt) Liberal Party of Canada; Plus a similar Liberal Party of Quebec; Plus a similar Liberal Party of Ontario; Plus Five other Liberal Party Governments; including the miscreant Province of New Brunswick is all about?
Then follow the Supreme Court of Canada closely; as they use another bunch of Weasel Words keeping the Bureaucrat Elite Government(s) happy.
Perpetuating the Taxing of Canadian Citizens or Travelers from other Countries for purchasing Goods in One Province and taking these goods to Another Province is Contrary to 1981-1982 Constitution. If the Supreme Court does not uphold this Declaration then it has once again confirmed the False Narrative of the Complete 1981-1982 Canada Constitution.
Not only breaking the intent of The Feckless 1981-1982 Constitution, but illegally taking Tax Dollars out of the Pockets of the NOW!— Non-Sovereign Citizens of Canada.
Canadians who have had the Internationally recognized for ALL Nations & Countries–“Human Rights of The Individual”–& “Individual Property Rights”;– Taken away–by the Never Ratified Or Approved by Referendum; Document known incorrectly as the 1981-1982 Constitution of Canada.
The First Prime Minister Trudeau; and a Cabal of Liberal and Conservative Leaders set in place a means of ignoring any appeal by Canadians for Justice when A Government of Canada choses to ignore Canadian Citizens in preference for Buereaucratic ease of implementation Or sinisterly to establish a system taking away the Right to personally select the Citizens’ Member of Parliament.
A process which disallows away the Base of Personal Freedom Started with the Magna Carta, over Eight Hundred Years Ago; then confirmed with the English Revolution- “1640-1660” and expanded by the French “Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen” & “The Women’s March on Versaillies” in 1789. These Citizens Definitely and Defiantly moved against Bureaucracy Elitism. A movement started with the French “Estates-General” and the subsequent “French Revolution”. 1789-1799.
Now; Canada is no longer a Nation of Sovereign Citizens similar to “The Great Experiment” of the United States of America with the “Declaration Of Independence”- 1776- and established by the American Revolution.
There are more Than Eighty other Nations who have also established their “Declaration Of Independence”. Not all have been able to keep their Prize and Pride.
Canada’s Citizen have also had Their “Rights of the Individual” taken away. The Loss of Which; has been subsequently and severally set aside by the “Supreme Court of Canada”.
The potential for cruelty and abuse for losing a Citizen’s Rights was well learned by German Citizens in 1933 and the rest of the World shortly there after.
Subsequent to loss of “Humanity for The Citizen” during the “1930-1945” & again from “1945-1989” allowed many Despot controlled Nations to use the ambiquity in a Nation/Country Constitution as a means to circumvent or distort the Law supposedly supported by a Constitution for the People.
Therefore; I respectfully and seriously recommend your observance for the Decision of Canada’s Supreme Court on supporting the ability for a Canadian Citizen or Traveller to purchase Goods in one Province for use in another Province.
Confirm for Yourself if The Bureaucracies of Canada ARE the Sovereigns OR if the Citizens of Canada are Sovereign. Just as important advise Your Member Of Parliament YOU want to be kept aware of the Decision Process & Progress on this Very Significant situation.
It is your Tax Dollars the Bureaucrats are spending.
This might make me unpopular on this site, but Mr. Comeau went to an Indian reserve and bought these. They were untaxed and probably smuggled if not sold illegally. The government has to collect taxes somehow and, unless they blockade the reserve, they probably have to enforce the law.
“The government has to collect taxes somehow and, unless they blockade the reserve, they probably have to enforce the law. ”
No they don’t and no they don’t. Even if they ‘need’ the taxes I have no obligation to give them. Your post does however do an excellent job highlighting how vital the reservations are for the fight for freedom in Canada.
“Americans decided that they would be free citizens. Canadians decided they would be happy subjects of some distant monarch. ”
This and the rest of that post are adorable. The US has a bigger government than Canada’s, has higher corporate income tax rate, more welfarism, and more thuggish cops. US liquor laws are about as insane as ours are. Canada is consistently ranked as more economically free than America, and has had smaller government than the US for almost all of the 20th century except in the ’70s under the misrule of The Evil Ones.
“This and the rest of that post are adorable.”
It was the usual attempt to impose their national myths on us again.
He doesn’t seem to realize that we have plenty of our own cockamamie national myths, thanks; we don’t need any more from south of the border.
I kind of like schools, roads, border protection, fire protection. I think most people, including you, have taken part in these indulgences, paid for by taxes. Without taxes, I’m not sure how these things would get done. Do you have a suggestion?
Yes: privatize those schools and roads and maybe the fire protection too. Only guard the borders against real threats ie invading armies. What we need should not be paid with sin taxes but ones on consumption or property. Or a national lottery.
we currently have an LCBO strike situation going on in ontariowe.
good for the cross-border shopping business !!!