“Today the free world must respond. We can never go back to the past.”

From the transcript;

As time went on, American policymakers increasingly presumed that as China became more prosperous, it would open up, it would become freer at home, and indeed present less of a threat abroad, it’d be friendlier. It all seemed, I am sure, so inevitable.

But that age of inevitability is over. The kind of engagement we have been pursuing has not brought the kind of change inside of China that President Nixon had hoped to induce.

The truth is that our policies – and those of other free nations – resurrected China’s failing economy, only to see Beijing bite the international hands that were feeding it.

We opened our arms to Chinese citizens, only to see the Chinese Communist Party exploit our free and open society. China sent propagandists into our press conferences, our research centers, our high-schools, our colleges, and even into our PTA meetings.

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82 Replies to ““Today the free world must respond. We can never go back to the past.””

  1. Trump really is going to go down as the greatest president. Recognizing the enemy in today’s age is unheard of. Seriously today’s CPC and gop would be begging the Soviets for amicable surrender terms.

    1. I see Ford, the premier not the car company, has passed bill 195. It gives him the power to extend the state of emergency as long as he wants. a year, two years or until Ontario is financially dead and the people insane from lies about a flu virus. Some freaking conservative eh. The one MP who voted against it was kicked out of caucus.

      1. Like for their federal counterpart, there will be no more voting for the Ontario PCs for me. Enough is enough.

        1. Thing is the alternative is worse, it’s a rock and a hard place scenario.
          I’m hoping Conservatives wake up soon and play the game right, say anything to get elected, pull in votes from disgruntled Liberals, there have to be some with scruples, and then act like Conservatives.

          1. True, Liz.

            For many years I’ve wished for a “kamikaze” conservative party to take power saying whatever it needs to in order to win, and then do the right things knowing full well they’ll be massively defeated by the entitlement-addicted electorate the next time around. But, too often when genuinely conservative things are ever achieved, they are reversed or diluted by legal action or a subsequent leftist government.

            We simply cannot win.

            It’s a sad commentary on our political system when my only choice is to vote for the party that will do the least damage and ruin the country the slowest.

      2. The average Canadian is stupid. Not all, just most.
        Getting lured by a “progressive” “conservative” again. Sure Doug is better than Wynne. In the end Doug Ford is a #LibCons at the provincial level.
        Just like those Conservatives (in name only) in Ottawa. All those people thinking they are conservatives voted for a phony conservative who is a centrist panderer while dissing a real conservative (Maxime Bernier).

        That’s Canada.

        1. My issue with Bernier is that he’s not a social conservative, he’s more of a libertarian. And it is the social-cultural rot that is killing this country more than the economic. As such, Bernier is not really a conservative to me.

          1. And he’s a fucking K-becer FFS!
            A pox on any and all who would vote for a party led by a fucking K-becer!
            I don’t give a fuck if he’s promising a 10% flat tax and the total elimination of the CRA, the CBC and the RCMP!

          2. There’s something in the BNA Act about how no politician from Quebec can ever not be corrupt. I think of a Quebec Conservative and I think Mulroney.

          3. Conservatives will fight like crazy over whether the state should own 42% of the GDP instead of their preferred status quo 40.56327% whereas libertarians fight for a state that should be limited to low single digits of the GDP. The difference involves a whole lot of statist control over cultural influence that has gotten us to where we are today. Bernier’s non party “support” was a CPC protest vote which far exceeded normal libertarian “support”.

            Until libertarianism is ascendant, the Conservatives are only a pathetic least worst alternative to the left/green/prog/nihilistic pathology and are very unlikely capable of anything transformative.

        2. “a real conservative (Maxime Bernier)”

          A REAL conservative would have accepted that he lost the Leadership race for the CCP.
          That was the whole point of the exercise. No, Maxime was not a conservative and never will be.

          1. Ooz, it’s you that ain’t no conservative, and your girl friend Scheep should have pulled the party together, especially after pulling a liberal stunt to win the leader ship, you are like most thumpers in here too stupid to know what conservatism actually is. It ain’t some one complaining that the government will not/did not pick up their old couch,

        3. ray: Lets go forward their is McKay and O’Toole that are Red Tories and Sloan and Lewis that are True Blue Conservative which is what Max Bernier is all about. Vote for Derek Sloan to lead the Conservative Party read his polices on his Web page.

      3. Hey, at least the red star and some liberals now think that he’s not so bad, now

      4. I am sure this is not the first time you have noticed that many, perhaps all, of those who choose to call themselves Conservatives are not in the least bit conservative. I will say again: anyone who supports socialized medicine is a socialist, NOT a conservative!

      1. Buddy: I would rather have someone that does what he said he would do make America Great Again than the likes of Biden , Hillary that would like to destroy America the road Obama was taking them down ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT lead by China. GO TRUMP GO…GO TRUMP GO…GO SLOAN GO MAKE CANADA GREAT AGAIN!!

    2. anybody wonder id the chinese are dispencing covid from houston?.. shipped in in diplomatic pouches.. Most of the outbreaks look to be coastal.. suspicious to me.

      1. If you were Xi, why would you not send as much of that shit to where it would do you the most good = Trump the most harm?…. Who is doing anything to stop it?

  2. The Chinese are the misfortune of the civilized world. Everything your drunken, fetal-alcohol-syndrome imbecile Ukrainian grandfather and your lisping, limp-wristed French Canadian priest accused the Jews of being and far, far worse besides.

    Tight-fisted, clannish, utterly lacking in empathy, and convinced on the evidence of nothing but their own bigotry, ignorance and vanity that “Heaven” had given them the right to rule the world, and that we barbarians are nothing but beasts of burden with no purpose in life other than to pay them tribute.

    No wonder our masters adore them. The lies they told about the Jews were merely projection of their own iniquity. They outdo themselves with colourful curses of Benjamin Netanyahu. Presented with Chairman Shylock himself, they line up to lick his fat yellow arse.

    (Even the blood libel was a cover-up for the sexualized murders of children by perverted Roman “Catholic” priests.

    Even today, Israeli Jews are accused, on the basis of no evidence whatsoever, of killing Arabs to use as spare parts.

    Nobody who actually needs a new heart, liver and set of lungs at an affordable price actually goes to Israel. He goes to China, where it can be arranged in days.)

    1. santayana’s strapon, just how stupid are??? Don’t answer, but you have just displayed why a lot of cons stay home on election day, and why many centrists and moderate liberals will not vote conservative. I just had that discussion with a moderate con friend of mine last friday. Now learn to keep your ignorant /stupid pie hole shut, unless you have something intelligent to say

  3. It’s the start of a slippery Slope. A different Slant if you will. Very Disorienting to think about.

  4. Well, if Trump wanted it to go quickly, or Japan, or Taiwan, or India, or anyone else who has had trouble with Chinain the past 1000 years, the solution is already there. Three Gorges, cruise missile, no need to send any aid.

    1. Attacking a population is immoral. The people along the Yangzte river are not our enemy. It’s the CCP that has the ambition to control everyone. The head of the CCP is in Beijing.

      1. THAT MAY BE…But should the 3 Gorges go, it will devastate the country…never mind Bejing. And their Economy will take a massive hit & possibly collapse. Hell it might stand and then one of the surrounding hills might just go “liquid” and disappear…not like that has never happened.

        It’s Monsoon season aint it..??
        yea, I thought so.

    2. The RCAF Andrew Mynarksi is in flying condition and I’m given to understand they have some experience in this area.

    3. KIPRT: You are killing the innocent the leaders are all safe out of harms way…waiting to see whom is left from the disaster they created. It is to bad the people of China don’t have guns at this time and find out where these idiots leaders are holding up and do away with them.

  5. “We opened our arms to Chinese citizens, only to see the Chinese Communist Party exploit our free and open society. China sent propagandists into our press conferences, our research centers, our high-schools, our colleges, and even into our PTA meetings.”

    Geeez, you’re agonisingly slow on the uptake Mike, old buddy, this has been going on for a decade +.
    Nice of you to notice.

    1. Well Bill he wasn’t in a position to change the US government approach. Now he and Trump can.
      Why do so many so-called conservatives not understand this on so many levels. The rot runs deep. You can’t just give it a coat of paint and move on. Structural changes are required and they are much harder to complete.

      1. 4 years too late.
        Nothing in Congress / Senate stops/stopped the Don doing exactly what he wants with China trade /security.
        4 years too late.

    2. Bill: The people that vote these monsters in need to VOTE them out that is the only way to get rid of them!! P.S. besides shooting them.

      1. Of course, but that has nothing to do with whether the Don could have acted 4 years ago on China. He could. He didn’t. It’s a bit like 3rd world immigration and Wall building. Years too late.

  6. What will become of China’s satellite nations and proxy States like Canada ? If you can’t trust Communist/Globalist China and a reset is required then surely you can’t trust Globalist/Communist Canada either. To do so would be a huge mistake. Lets hope the Americans are aware of their enemies.

  7. The efforts to appease communists have always been futile. America and Canada have allowed communists to embed themselves in all areas of society, from academia, bureaucracy, city governments, provincial government, federal governments, and people wonder why they are losing, hell have lost, their freedom. We have allowed the enemy into our backyard and are surprised when he takes over. America has permitted the same thing and are one election away from the total destruction of their republic.

  8. In his remarks Pompeo says:

    “Indeed, we have a NATO ally of ours that hasn’t stood up in the way that it needs to with respect to Hong Kong because they fear Beijing will restrict access to China’s market. This is the kind of timidity that will lead to historic failure, and we can’t repeat it.”

    Whomever could he be referring to?

  9. Repeating the same mistake over and over but expecting a different result has been the West’s response to Chicom hegemony.
    They will not back down from their advances.
    They have too many millionaires on board with their system, too many police and soldier spies.
    Every single person from China (not necessarily Honk Kong) working or in school in the west is aligned with the Party.
    They want it all.
    War is inevitable.

  10. I’ve been saying this for years, that the Nixon opening to China was a colossal foreign policy mistake. Worse even then the Iraq war by Bush Junior or JugEars McFoodstamp’s overthrow of Qaddafi destabilizing north Africa. In fact, when Mark Steyn released America alone, he asked for people to submit questions. I submitted a question asking his thoughts on my contention it was a mistake. He responded, posting a recorded answer on his website, that he saw it as a rational foreign policy move that helped drive deeper animosity and suspicion between the Soviet Union and China. My contention was that it was the first foregn policy move by a western power that laid the foundation for the eventual transformation of China from a backwards communist dictatorship into a very rich and powerful communist dictatorship, whose influence and power is now almost beyond the point of being able to do anything about it.

    1. The West missed the boat starting in 1949 when they should have disowned China. The situation was only made worse with successive misguided attempts at appeasement: Nixon in the early 1970s, then Bush1/Clinton/Bush2/Obama in the 80s through the 2000s.
      They all miscalculated that China was capable of changing for the benefit of the people of the West. Now we’ve let them destroy our economies and invade our universities.

        1. Great point. My oversight.
          PET led the way among western nations in kneeling for China while giving the finger to Taiwan.

    2. “[Steyn] saw it as a rational foreign policy move that helped drive deeper animosity and suspicion between the Soviet Union and China”

      This is a triumph of Russian/Chinese propaganda. There was never a rift between Moscow and Beijing.
      Russian aid to China with technology and weaponry has continued unabated from the time of Chairman Mao until the present.
      They still wargame together and exercise large combined forces operations with the latest example being just last year, 2019.

    3. @Oz: “There was never a rift between Moscow and Beijing.”

      1. Mao adored the Georgian bank robber; Khruschev began de-Stalinization
      2. “In 1969, the USSR planned to make a pre-emptive atomic-bomb attack on China, and asked the United States to stay neutral.” (wikipedia)
      3. “The Sino-Soviet border conflict was a seven-month undeclared military conflict between the Soviet Union and China at the height of the Sino-Soviet split in 1969. The most serious of these border clashes, which brought the world’s two largest communist states to the brink of war, occurred in March 1969 in the vicinity of Zhenbao (Damansky) Island on the Ussuri (Wusuli) River, near Manchuria. The conflict resulted in a ceasefire, with a return to the status quo.” (ibid.)
      4. China attacked Vietnam in early 1979
      5. China sent aid to guerillas in Afghanistan and Kampuchea fighting Soviet backed regimes
      6. The USSR approached Taiwan to consider joint military operations against China. (The enemy of my enemy is my friend.)
      7. A million plus Soviet troops were deployed in the Far Eastern Military District.

  11. SID V
    The China that doesn’t develop it’s own Technology & Science is NOT a legitimate threat… They steal the Product but don’t understand it’s potential… It was a Democrat President who betrayed America by allowing China to invade S-Korea for the cluster of UN traitors.. General Curtis LeMAY had bombers loaded with enough Nuclear Bombs to destroy CHINA on the first Strike…. Why Democrats have betrayed GI’s has always been about MONEY. We will keep coming back to the same problem with the same solution until the MONEY connection is broken….

    Nixon used his China & Russia visits to scare N-Vietnam into negotiations….Did he explain his Nuclear Solution to the WAR? Maybe! Better to be wise than a crispy critter…

  12. Prosperity is enjoyed now by millions of Chinese unlike in the last days of the Soviet Union. Soviet citizens in all the East Bloc countries were impoverished and that helped their demise.

    Culturally the Chinese will make enormous sacrifices for their children, if they’re afraid of the Communist Party now, making them understand that a future world ruled by their Communist Party will make their children’s lives ten times worse could be the key to the demise of the CCP.

    Humiliation of them is not a strategy, for all their talk of saving face, that ultimately means nothing to them if they have power over you.

    1. Yes, prosperity is enjoyed by the millions in China with connections to the Chicom, not so much by the over one billion others.
      There are 31 provincial level Chinese political divisions. Call them provinces for short. 9 are over the national average in pcgdp (per capita gross domestic product) according to China’s own numbers. The top is Beijing at $47K, next is Shanghai at $45K. They are far above the next one at $35K. The top 7 are on the coast, as well as the 10th. 8th is Hubei (capital Wuhan) and 9th is Chongqing. The bottom 14 are less than $16K.
      As an illustration of the disparity, they carved the direct cities of Beijing and Tianjin (pcgdp $26K), out of Heibei, taking a total of 37M population. The rest of the 76M left in what is now Heibei have a pcgdp of $13K. So you don’t even have to go inland, just go outside of the big cities.
      What contribute to the prosperity of the coast? For one, special economic zones, wherein foreign investors can practice 19th century capitalism. (Notable beneficiaries are Fujian and Guangdong.) For two, tourism. Wuhan and Chongqing, for example, are the two terminals of the popular Three Gorges River Cruise. Jiangsu (Suzhow) and Zhejiang (Hangzhow) are also popular tourist destinations, in addition to Beijing and Shanghai themselves. But the really big money that bloat the pcgdp of those last two cities are what they call the Rich Second Generation, who own the Nazi style quasi private corporations. To whom are they the second generation? Why the top cadre of the Chicom of course.
      What can China do without communism? I don’t think I’ll find out in my lifetime. But I know what the Chinese outside of China (including the special administrative districts of Macau and Hong Kong) can do. Here is a list of their pcgdp:
      Macau $113K (of course that’s like Monte Carlo)
      Singapore $106K (75% ethnic Chinese)
      Hong Kong $66k (just below the U.S., despite Chicom oppression)
      Taiwan $57K
      The latter deserves a special mention. It has evolved into a truly modern free society, overcoming third world status and domestic ethnic strives. For a long time it had survived on U.S. foreign aid, and then income in the Vietnam war era from American servicemen on leave. But when the Vietnam War was over, and the U.S. recognized Red China and subsequently stopped the foreign aid to Taiwan, the latter was completely abandoned and left on its own. Instead of folding up and accept third world status, like the Philippines apres U.S., it embarked on a course of self determination that finds it now among the top economies in the world. Its pcgdp of $57K not only overwhelms China’s $21K, it is much better than the numbers for Beijing and Shanghai I quoted above. Its population of 27M of course does not compare to that of China, but is in the ball park of the combined 46M of those two cities, whose economy is propped up by raping the rest of China.

      Link to Chinese economy by province:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chinese_administrative_divisions_by_GDP_per_capita

      1. Interesting. Inspiring the billion who are left out of the prosperity in those other 22 provinces to demand regime change would seem to be the best way to go, they do seem to have regular protests on the periphery of major centres. Let’s hope they can get some kind of “glasnost” implemented.

  13. Senator Joe McCarthy was right all along,
    The communists have infiltrated and taken over.

    1. Davis

      Actually I think it was Igor Gouzenko who made that assertation. (at least when it came to Canada)..and that was when…?? 1945

      He’d be laffin his ass off right about now and thinking “I told ya so”

    2. I am ashamed of how long it took me to figure out that Joe was right. I believed him when he said it, because it was obvious that he believed it, but then I let Hollywood talk me out of it. They had me fooled into the seventies.

  14. When war begins with China, what will the Canadian government do about the thousands of Chinese citizens whose loyalty is to China and who now reside in Canada?

    1. Most Canadian / Chinese, by far, will kill commies all the live long day.

      The stories of the fathers and mothers and grandparents of my Chinese friends and family are unimaginably horrible.
      Weeping days later while driving alone horrible.
      They made it out.

      911, China virus, rampant systemic corruption…

      It’s like we’re being prepared for, it’s like we’re at a place now, where the western world needs to be restocked with unimaginably horrible stories of our own to take action to do something unimaginable.

    2. If they feel safe, if they think they can be honest, they will reveal an over powering and deep hatred of the CPC and they will share stories of what they own families have suffered. The problem is we westerners don’t appreciate how dangerous it is to speak out and so they live in fear we will accidentally betray them to their great peril. We are incapable of imaging their justified fear of CPC reprisal.

  15. Interesting series on China.
    “Is China the most RACIST country in the world?”

    https://youtu.be/9ftZdHnHBHo

    Some good information how the Chinese Communist Party operates.
    Racism is mandated by the Chinese government, not punished by the government as it is here.
    They have a basic dictatorship…

    Several more videos in the description by a South African who lived in China for 15 years.

  16. “The kind of engagement we have been pursuing has not brought the kind of change inside of China that President Nixon had hoped to induce.”

    Seems very widely applicable.

    Been voting Democrat for your entire life, and the water pipes are still lead, the community is still crime ridden, still poor, …

    Been voting Sask Party for years, and there are still no pipelines, still paying equalization, still watching CBC, still waiting for anything they promised to be delivered, …

    Been voting for the people who have “conservative” in their name, but the CBC is still there, still can’t buy a gun, still have annual deficits, still watching protestors do whatever they want, …

    Been calling for people to “wake up” for 50,000,000,000,000,000 posts in just as many Internet forums, and they still haven’t, …

    If what you have been doing/trying/voting has not got you to the place you wanted to be, then look in the mirror. You are in a death spiral of irrational escalation of commitment.

    Instead of continuing to take actions simply because they are consistent with the actions you have taken in the past, you have to admit that you have made a mistake, identify the mistake, and stop doing things that keep you committed to that mistake.

    Every political party you have committed to in the past, has ended up picking Joe Clark. What makes you think that this “new national political party” is any different? Has the party system worked out for you personally? How many times do you give it a try, before you put an X on that spot on the calendar.

    The USA is getting some change, simply because they actually voted for someone different. Canada, Alberta, tried Preston Manning, Harper, Jason Kenney, Wil Rose, … but is anything substantially different?

    1. ” Wil[sic] Rose”

      Did you mean Wild Rose here, Shitbird? Because they never got to power. Maybe they did in your fevered imagination.

      1. Shit bird was un called for. He spoke the truth, your wild rose crack was not needed. it shows a lack of thought.

  17. DCH, There are thousands of Chinese living in cities and areas all along the Canada US border, yet not many in the north of Canada. As a joke, I’ve been saying for years that they are massing on the US border, in readiness to march into the US, when the Party issues the order. I no longer think of it as a joke. There are many Chinese that left the motherland to get away from the Commies. The Commies however, have sent over thousands of loyal party operatives to live in the various Chinese Canadian communities. I do know that a large number of Chinese people living here, try to not associate with those party members. They avoid them as much as possible, but the party does exert influence and threats on them on them through their families back in China, and through their loyal operatives. The CCP does not just expect, but demand, all Chinese peoples to serve the Motherland if or when they are called upon to do so. How many there are here, that will continue to refuse their demands I am unsure of. So we will be fighting them on Canadian soil first, if we enter into open warfare with them!
    I know of at least three Chinese owned gun stores in Canada, and I would bet there are more. They have been importing Chinese made firearms and ammunition for many years, yet not all of them have been sold to the public. If war does happen, the CCP are already here, and they will be well armed. We must wake up and be aware.

    1. Could be that if the SHTF there will be neighbourhood battles between Red Chicoms and democratic Chinese.
      I also wonder if any of the Reds have spies in the midst of the (lets call them) Blue Chinese.

      1. You wonder??? If you can get someone in the community to trust you, they will show you evidence there is spies, not all fo them willing.

    2. Well said sir.
      On which sides of the issue, the demographic of which you speak, settle will have a huge influence on the outcome, I wish I had better indications of the effectiveness of CCP coercion, on this side of the pond and the true strength of resistance to it.

  18. ” … there have to be some with scruples, … ”

    Yup, there are a few. But they get kicked out of caucus , Liz J.

  19. One possible outcome, and the flood potential disaster could speed this up, might be that less adventurous elements of the Chinese communist party might depose Xi in a coup and try to restore the situation to what it was before he took absolute power about four years ago (he’s been leader for eight years or so, but only went for the full power around the time Trump was elected).

    Not everybody in the halls of power there might be thrilled with the recent events, the Wuhan business that seems suspiciously like an engineered attack on the free world, the misadventures with India along that border, and the cult of personality building up around a guy who seems about as charismatic as Stephen Harper.

    Not that I am any great fan of Chinese communism in any form, but what they had before Xi showed up was considerably more flexible than this current version. Of course it would be preferable if the people rose up and threw off the yoke of the communists for good, but there is no effective opposition to communism outside of Hong Kong, Taiwan and some overseas Chinese groups. And as some here have said, most if not all of the Chinese citizens studying here or on short-term work arrangements are party loyalists and might be here for any number of reasons beyond the stated ones.

    I distrust the Chinese government completely, but Xi is by far the most dangerous leader they have had since Mao, and the sooner he’s gone the safer we will be, although of course, if they rolled the dice and went to war, they would lose (after several million people died). They won’t go that far but they do seem to be trying to wreck the economy and social order of various western countries, notably the U.S. and Britain. It takes a very gullible approach to see events of the past year as random, I suspect there was a master plan and I rather think it failed on the operational level, COVID-19 has been moderately successful psych-ops but a shadow of what it might have been intended to do in terms of mortality. It seemed to take out mostly those who were close to death anyway, rather than cutting deeply into the healthy stock. But ask yourself this, why would they unleash such a thing unless there was a plan to exploit it directly in some way?

    1. I have asked myself that Peter.
      If the American economy had remained healthy, Trump’s reelection would have been a lead pipe cinch. Trumps reelection just might be the end of the CPC. Almost certainly the end of Xi. Need I say more?

  20. Look at the state of democracies in the West. Why would China be eager to embrace that? No undemocratic country will embrace democracy with what is going on in Western Europe, UK, Canada and the US.

  21. “Finally we returned to reality,as there was nowhere else to go.”
    Placating,rewarding a bully, produces more bullying.
    Just as paying the Dane Geld brings you more Dane.

    Quite the contrast with a businessman at the helm,truths that would never be spoken are now free to be said.
    China self identifies as our enemy.
    We shrug and suck up to their leaders,who are on the record,some of the most despotic in history.
    Surrendering our own rights and opinions in search of the mighty Yuan.

    China ,well the CPP face a number of challenges,which may blow in any number of unpredictable ways.
    Failure to meet the Party Members Expectations could be fatal to the current leaders.
    Natural disaster can spike the best of plans.
    The failure of infrastructure could kill millions and bring down the Party.
    War,in an attempt to divert attention,prevent shortages or other such political goals,will trigger unsought solutions.

    “May all your days be interesting”..
    Heh.

    Whatever the Chinese Peoples Party is playing at,whatever script they are reading from, President Trump and the American Citizens are a major impediment to that plan.
    Almost like this President is the wrong guy for the role,the “Natural Leaders of Man” had written.

    Look back to the election of Trump,we have been treated to an endless litany of ” You can’t do that”,”That is un-presidential”,and endless bitter attacks on the people who voted for President Trump and their own right to write their own roles in life,ever since.
    Liberalism,as currently practised, is a progressive disease.
    How dare you foul citizens have opinions of your own?
    Why won’t you do what we tell you?
    We know best!

  22. I wonder how many people will have the courage to stand up and physically fight for their freedom. So far I don’t hold out much hope for Canada or the U S, as we have become nations of takers and courage is sorely lacking. We can’t even tell our governments to piss off over unnecessary restrictions on our freedom because of a flu virus. Anyone who thinks that China has not paid very close attention to this is not intellectually worthy of freedom. When it is gone folks there will be no one around to take it back.

    1. ” … wonder how many people will have the courage to stand up and physically fight for their freedom … ”

      Maybe one out of a thousand, OWG. And a most of the keyboard warriors on SDA certainly aren’t included.

      1. When I stand up I stand alone. I have done so a number of times in my life and no one ever is willing to follow.

  23. Whoa, what a wailing bout! You, with short memories, have quickly forgotten that exactly the same thing happened when the Bolshevik regime of communist Russia has exploited the West, as soon as it recognized the new government. Stupid is as stupid does, and the West never listens. It is too full of itself to listen.

    Those who have seen the communism with their own eyes keep screaming at you and warning you that it is inevitable that the communist regimes would abuse you and take advantage of you, but you never listen.

    Serves you well! Perhaps, once you burn your fingers the 20th time, you may start scratching your head and wondering, what the hell you are doing wrong.

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