32 Replies to “Wuhan Flu”

    1. Sorry to Bogart in here, but this is an important piece of information ….
      https://youtu.be/kr04gHbP5MQ
      There are international lawsuits being launched against those governments and medical people for the Covid FRAUD that has cost the world trillions.
      And it’s just another Flu after all.

      Check it out .. it’s quite fascinating.

  3. QR77 right now is playing the Trump and Biden clips on masking and how Trump and Meliana and his staff didn’t mask up for the debates. Rob Breckenridge is continuing to pound the CV-19 fear-porn in his TDS chair at Global. I have turned it off for the rest of the afternoon.

    Masks and underware, equal in their effectiveness in trapping small particulates.

    1. Breckenridge pounded the Russia collusion hoax for three and a half years with the likes of David Frum. He invited the most vile pundit on TV, Rick Wilson on his show to “discuss” the Muller testimony. Within minutes of that phoney Atlantic story breaking he did a segment on how Trump will never recover. When the Trump tax issue arose he brought on a guy who represents “Republicans Against Trump” to bash the President. And on and on. He’s the CNN of QR77.

  4. This is the most basic DUH.
    If masks worked.
    The crisis would be over.
    The current wave of infection sweeping the masked crybabies is just proof of how useless masks and the people who demand their use,truly are.

    1. A co worker missed about 2 weeks of work with a severe infection in her salivary glands, plus shingles on face, scalp , and neck. She was masking for her entire shift before it was mandatory. I cannot scientifically prove that her infections were related to wearing the mask for 8 hours at work, plus out in community. But it is highly suspicious. And how many others are suffering the long term effects of masks?

      1. HC Worker …. Shingles would be more bad luck than mask related no?
        PS … everyone who is older and hasn’t already done so look into the shingles vaccine several folks I know got it and it is no fun … vaccine is easy and pretty cheap … I think mine was 50 bucks at the Walmart pharmacy.

        1. I got mine last year. Second shot gave me humdinger of a headache for half a day but worth it if it works.

        2. I had shingles at 22. Thing about shingles is it can manifest when your immune system is weakened or compromised. I was working days and nights and not eating well so that’s what got me. Wearing a mask incessantly can weaken your immune system, plus if the person is constantly stressed about getting infected, that will contribute. Whether or not the mask was the main contributor or the final straw who knows but it most certainly did not help.

    2. Notice that most masks have gaping openings around the nose area. People have inconveniently large schnozzolas, so the fit around the beak is horrid.

      PLUS there are two suction points (nostrils) sucking whatever is in front right around those open edges of the mask where it meets the honker ….. so forget it …. unless the mask is hermetically sealed around your stupid face, it’s nothing.

      Everyone wears a loose fitting mask so that can breathe the air that gets sucked in around the edges …lest we become dull-witted breathing our own carbon dioxide all day long.

      https://youtu.be/kr04gHbP5MQ

  5. Ontario Nurses Union fought tooth and nail in 2015 not to have their members wear them when a Sault Ste.Marie hospital tried to enforce a “Vaccinate or Mask” policy – union “experts” claiming masks would not protect nurses or patients and that it was unreasonable to force healthy people to wear them. They eventually won.

    Now? Well now I don’t hear a freaking peep from them. Which is really weird. Well, actually it isn’t.

  6. Or you could go to https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=10&q=mask+mandates&hl=en&as_sdt=0,46 and look at what people who actually understand statistics are telling us instead of politically motivated yahoos over at Instapundit.

    This was on another post today: We all feel fear, of course, and we can’t completely control it. But we can control what we do in response to our feelings. We can confront and work through our fears, and try to slowly acclimate ourselves to things we’re afraid of that we shouldn’t be. We can work to diffuse our fear by better attaching ourselves to reality.

    Yes, you can get over your irrational fear of masks by familiarizing yourself with the science.

    1. Masks Do Not Prevent You From Getting Wuhan Flu!
      If you have it they lessen you spreading it to a slight extent.
      Getting Wuhan or other illnesses takes Time +Dose. That’s the science. Masks have no effect on either of those two factors.
      I wear a mask so I don’t get a giant fine and because people are so afraid.

    2. Why is a mask needed for an infection that is over 99% survivable, with most having mild or no symptoms? SCIENCE indeed.

  7. Correlation is not causation.

    Maybe, instead of trying to prove that a barrier isn’t a barrier, we should be putting our efforts into demanding the mass-production of masks which are more effective (N-95s etc) and which were, pre-COVID, thought by every health official to protect against certain respiratory viruses (see CDC pre-COVID guidelines). None of this is fool-proof but we should differentiate between user-error and method-error.

    Also, saying masks don’t work perfectly is not an argument against using masks at all.
    For example, not every healthcare worker who attends COVID patients gets sick. Sometimes they do but we know that mistakes are easily made while donning or doffing PPE. Does that mean they shouldn’t wear PPE? No, of course not, it just means we live in a world where perfection cannot be the standard we apply to human activity.

    1. Or, we could just live our lives and accept that covid 19 is now endemic and there’s nothing we can do about it. Eventually most people will get it, and in some parts of the world antibody testing is showing that huge percentages of people have already had it.

      1. “……and accept that covid 19 is now endemic and there’s nothing we can do about it.”

        So it is said with AIDS and STDS……..Personally I’d recommend those travelling to Sub Saharan Africa and are inclined to have sex with local prostitutes wear a condom.

        But others disagree………

        “condoms provide no protection whatsoever against pregnancy, HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases one time out of every sixteen uses”

        https://www.hli.org/resources/contraceptive-brief-condoms/

  8. N95 masks that seal around nose and mouth work, not the useless paper and designer cloth masks everyone wears. The useless masks do prevent saliva droplets from the mask wearer from shooting across the room when coughing sneezing or talking, even if onto surfaces like handrails or floor.

    So yea I wear a proper N95 mask in public, like shopping. Who fu*king cares if I do? I give a rats ass if other people wear or don’t wear one, it’s a free world. I noticed on a recent business trip to the East Coast that very few people were sick with the flu which is pretty unusual to see for around there.

    1. The issue here is that most people don’t have access to N-95 masks which is what is needed to prevent the spread of disease in this case. Even doctors aren’t using them where I live – suspect it is a supply issue. The day we have enough of these masks the public health guidelines are going to change.

      There is a hierarchy of disease control measures with the N-95 masks being highly effective/reasonable, paper masks being less effective/reasonable, total shut down being highly effective/unreasonable, and not doing anything to prevent the spread being ineffective/unreasonable. The reason people care whether others wear masks (at least in my case) is because they neither want to be prisoners in their homes nor do they want to see our extremely weak healthcare system implode.

      1. Long, Y. et al. (2020) “Effectiveness of N95 respirators versus surgical masks against influenza: A systematic review and meta-analysis,” J Evid Based Med. 2020; 1- 9. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/jebm.12381
        “A total of six RCTs involving 9,171 participants were included. There were no statistically significant differences in preventing laboratory-confirmed influenza, laboratory-confirmed respiratory viral infections, laboratory-confirmed respiratory infection, and influenza-like illness using N95 respirators and surgical masks. Meta-analysis indicated a protective effect of N95 respirators against laboratory-confirmed bacterial colonization (RR = 0.58, 95% CI 0.43-0.78). The use of N95 respirators compared with surgical masks is not associated with a lower risk of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”

        1. I hope you won’t mind me saying that a Chinese government funded study, published in 2020, done by Chinese researchers which is critical of long-established CDC guidelines and internationally-accepted standards is not the best source for this. And that is without even looking at the trials/studies they included for this. I don’t see peer review either.
          The study has an interesting focus on resource-preservation (viz. crap, we don’t have enough masks, how do we justify this).

          1. Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) “N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial,” JAMA. 2019; 322(9): 824–833. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214

            “Among 2862 randomized participants, 2371 completed the study and accounted for 5180 HCW-seasons. … Among outpatient health care personnel, N95 respirators vs medical masks as worn by participants in this trial resulted in no significant difference in the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”

  9. Agree 100%, and believe in not overwhelming the hospitals like what happened in Italy and New York. That’s exactly why I was with Trump on closing the borders in Jan, not to stop the spread but control it. But was called a RACIST by our dear leaders.

    On that business trip to Halifax in April that I mentioned earlier, I finished my 2 week Quarantine, and then went and picked up some groceries wearing my N95 mask. On the way back just before pulling into my downtown underground parking garage, I waited for a guy walking on the sidewalk crossing the entry way, and he kept stooping low as he walked trying to look at me in the car. He didn’t look like street scum, basically dressed like an everyday worker somewhere around 40 years old. As the rented apartment complex asked that people wear masks and I was only a few minutes from the store, I just left my mask on for the short drive back, instead of taking it on and off. Anyway when this guy saw me clearly he lost his sh*t and started screaming at me in the car and double middle fingering me. I was a little confused what the hell it was about, and as I drove down into the garage he started following me shouting, so I slowed and waited for him at the bottom of the ramp inside the garage hoping he’d come right in. But he didn’t, must have smelled a rat because the masked guy in the nice BMW rental was waiting patiently for him to get off the public street. So about halfway down the ramp he turned around and walked back out and disappeared.

    Needless to say i assumed it was about me wearing a mask alone in the car that set this retard off. So back to my original point about people can fu*k off if I DO want to wear one. This guy was extremely lucky he decided to not walk all the way down and meet me in the garage or it would have turned into a very bad day for him indeed.

  10. A whole lot of issues could be solved if people would simply learn to breathe through their noses.

    1. @LindaL – So from the video in your link @ 06:30 min

      Paraphrased – {Studies from 14 hospitals showed that you are 13 times more likely (1300%) to catch a virus with cloth masks, compared to “Medical/ surgical” N95 masks} – Michael Gaeta.

  12. Just watch the movie Idiocracy.

    Then you will know what ever mask debate, COVID debate, political debate, etc., will be for the rest of time.

  13. Radonovich, L.J. et al. (2019) “N95 Respirators vs Medical Masks for Preventing Influenza Among Health Care Personnel: A Randomized Clinical Trial,” JAMA. 2019; 322(9): 824–833. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2749214

    “Among 2862 randomized participants, 2371 completed the study and accounted for 5180 HCW-seasons. … Among outpatient health care personnel, N95 respirators vs medical masks as worn by participants in this trial resulted in no significant difference in the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza.”

  14. All the statistics in the world will not disguise the obvious fact.
    People wearing “Government approved face coverings” have caught Covid-19.
    And people continue to catch it.
    The “Authorities” are well aware masks,including N-95, are not effective.
    Because if they were,the CRISIS would be over.
    If wearing a mask was an effective preventive measure,we could all mask up,using the approved mask,and go about our normal business.

    Mandating “face coverings” knowing full well they are useless,tells you how frightened and out of their “intellectual ” depth our effete elites really are.

    Being seen to do something,is more important than actually doing what is needed.
    The ruling parasites mandated that the productive part of our economy STOP,while the parasitic load continued full throttle.
    There is no plan to restart the economy,because those who granted themselves the power,have no clue at all how the actual economy works.

    They will still be prattling on about how much the Gross National Product has increased,due to the ever increasing size of government,as the last productive citizen slinks across the border ,escaping to the USA.

    The “economy of Canada” is truly a Norwegian Blue.

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