85 Replies to “When 19% Of New Covid Cases In 12+ Are Fully Vaccinated”

  1. VAXPORTS are for one reason only:
    To CREATE DIVISIVENESS in Society.

    100% IDENTICAL to the Yellow Star of David instituted by the Identical Types who did so in the 1930’s Germany

    RAT FUCK NAZI Bastards….and yes Jason, that is precisely what you and your Medical Fascists are.

    1. steakman, we are on the same page. jesus tooly assholes. the fucking virus was and still is a nothing burger. Canadians are dumber than a bag of rocks. There is nowhere to go with this crap. Just come over and try and kill me. I will fight back. Nazi canada raises it’s ugly head out of the french province of quebec. historically they were call the vichy french. Evil by any standard. does anyone out there have a functioning brain cell?

    2. I’m waiting for

      a) massive death numbers from the virus

      b) massive death numbers from the Jab

      My money is on B

  4. Vax Passports are “temporary” just like income tax in 1918 was temporary. 🙂

    Complete utter towering dung piles heaped up 10 km high…to quote R. Lee Ermey:

    “I didn’t know they stacked shit that high!”

    Cheers

    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief

    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North”

    1. And masks … ? Well … they have ALSO been keeping the spread of colds to a minimum. Hence we will keep the mask mandates for ALL enclosed spaces. Forever. Because if just ONE child or Elder can be SAVED from getting a head cold … ? Right?

      We are ALL Chinese peasants peddling bicycles with masks now.

  6. And those numbers are probably being kept artificially low. You could probably double them, easily.

    I keep wondering if our leaders expect a great number of sick and dying among the vaxxed and if that is the reason for their great push to have everyone take the shots. Things were going well for them simply using the fear pron… Near total control. More than 50% of the adults with the shot. People obeying all sorts of stupid rules. If we didn’t like it, we were still quietly obedient. They are just printing and stealing money now, so I don’t think profits are a motivation. We were already compliant!!!

    Their insistence to get to 100% vaxxed, country after country has given them massive protests, hospital shortages, growing resistance movements, probably violence we aren’t hearing about….nothing but headaches. Every crazier move they make to get more people vaxxed wakes more and more people up. I swear, I see fear in Ford and Trudeau’s eyes.

    The shot has been available for about 7 months and they’ve moved from happily trying to get it to everyone to dystopian measures….in 7 months?

    In terms of the passports being about total control – I don’t buy that. They already had total control and we were quiet about it. Most people have phones and bank cards and could already be tracked. Any data they could collect with this passport could already be assembled behind the scenes without us knowing. We were already compliant. The only reason the passports seems to have been pulled out of the hat is to have everyone get the shot.

    They desperately want us to get the shot.
    Desperately.

    1. I agree with this. I’ve been saying the same thing the past few weeks. Why this rapid and coordinated call to have each population 100 percent vaxxed? Leaders that resisted at first do sudden 180’s and fall in line. Who’s pulling these levers? I’ve seen a theory somewhere that high numbers of complications are expected from the vax so they need to get rid of the control group (unvaxxed). Seems crazy but man oh man – look at the world we live in now! What other reason could there be?

  7. I couldn’t locate the definition of “unvaccinated”. In some presentations “unvaccinated” includes those with an unknown vaccination status. This might be okay for some purposes but does otherwise distort. It would be much better to include a separate category for “unknown” in order to address confusion and bias .

  8. I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF PASSPORTS OR MANDATES. But I am in favor of the truth…

    And based on these data, and knowing that 75+% of people are vaccinated, there is clearly a reduced risk of getting Covid-19 if you are vaccinated.

    It is also likely true that there is a very small increased risk to the vaccinated when they come in contact with the unvaccinated.

    Is the reduced Covid-19 risk worth the risk from the vaccine itself? For high-risk people, probably. For the rest of us, probably not.

    The hysteria from people on both sides of this issue, including the PM, is not helpful.

    1. Most of deaths are 80+ age grouping. Alberta reports 90% of deaths have 2 or more pre-existing health conditions (76% have 3 or more).
      So yes, the most at risk are elderly that have existing serious health problems.

    2. Hey BS have you looked at current active cases in Alberta in the highest risk 60+ age group? If you haven’t I’ll save you the trouble. IT’S 56% VAXXED. I will grant you that vaccination seems to reduce risk of hospitalization and ICU by a bit more than 50% at current efficacy but so what? The Delta Variant is still spreading and the majority of the spreaders over 60 ARE FULLY VAXXED. It’s NOT an epidemic of the unvaxxed. That is a lie. And in the younger much less at risk 12-59 group it’s still about 1 in 3 cases have at least one shot. The so called Unvaxxed don’t want to assume all the risk of taking the most unsafe vaccines ever mass foisted on the public in history. It’s simple reasoned math. So if you’re in favor of the truth then have at ‘er. Too much is being kept intentionally hidden by the Vax pushers.

  9. They will punish the vaccinated and punish the unvaccinated until everyone is the vaccinated. Classic military detention tactics designed to break the will of the unvaccinated through overwhelming pressure from those around them including in their own household. The goal is only vaccinated and unvaccinated households, then no unvaccinated households, by force or cattlecar removal if necessary.

  10. Also, are those with one dose but within 14 days included in “unvaccinated”, most likely from other presentations that I’ve viewed. This too should be pulled into a separate category so as not to contaminated the control group.
    Basic stuff if you want to be unbiased.

    1. Looking at SK report, looks like “unvaccinated” includes those with 1 dose within 3 weeks of getting it.
      This is awful presentation. It presumes that the vaccine does not have any effect (good or bad) within those 3 weeks. This should clearly be another subgroup.

      1. You are missing the point here: by including the people 3 weeks or less from their first vaccination in the “unvaccinated” column, they are able to disguise prompt vaccine-induced deaths as WuFlu deaths. If you make three weeks from the vax without croaking, you will probably make it until the next booster is due, at which point you will no longer be “fully vaccinated”. And the merry-go-round does another spin. You stay on it until you fall off.

        1. That’s the problem Gord, we don’t know. Maybe yes, maybe no.
          If they did it correct, we wouldn’t need to be suspicious.
          Is by malice or incompetence? I understand you vote malice.

  11. Has anybody noticed that achieving herd immunity isn’t being bandied about as much as it used to be. Now that it’s beyond obvious that the jab has no hope in getting us there and that eradicating the virus flew out the same window, at what point does it dawn on the pleeb’s that they are just being offered multiple doses of despair? And what kind of pressure is being applied to the individual GP’s of Canada? Do they, apart from a very small number, lack even a drop of moral fortitude let alone curiosity about what’s happening else where in the world?

    1. It helps us get to herd immunity by way of natural immunity far more safely. I know, it’s a difficult point that this crowd doesn’t seem to be able to comprehend.

      1. So what you’re saying is that it doesn’t help us achieve herd immunity. That’s no different than what everyone here is saying.

      2. If you are vaccinated, presumably you are safer from the virus; probably smaller chance of catching the disease, less dangerous symptoms for most, though some are still hospitalized. We aren’t told what, if any comorbidities those hospitalized and vaccinated are, but presumably the same cohort that were vulnerable when no-one was vaccinated.
        Herd immunity will come eventually, but elderly and obese and other vulnerable people will still be in danger, because it will be endemic. Vulnerable people should take care to avoid exposure others don’t have to worry so much.
        Do we have to be, or should we be coerced into getting vaccinated?
        Obviously not, and people questioning passports and mandates shouldn’t be cancelled or punished.

  12. It means we don’t have to interact with Trumplican conspiracy theorists as much as we otherwise might have to. Sounds good to me.

    1. Any such interaction may well result in your untimely demise, not necessarily from COVID. Don’t say you haven’t been warned. 🙂

        1. Funny that coming from your side. How many headlines have you seen from the Tor Star of front-line health care people wanting to see us die? I’ve seen one too many!

          How many tweets from DOCTORS, no less, re-iterating the same concept? How many advocating rationing health care services away from the unvaccinated. I’ve seen one too many.

          How can anybody capable of rational thought trust anyone from the leftist-groomed health sector is beyond me. Our hospitals are rapidly becoming kill-zones!

          For you to imply that WE are the Nazis is classic lie-beral projection!

    2. Yes the vaxxed will die off quickly and all that will be left will be Trumplican conspiracy theorists. Since you would be desperately unhappy in such a world, better get a double booster shot ASAP.

    3. If you look at the stats here in the States, the populations with the lowest jab rates are Blacks and Latinos.

      I’m pretty certain quite a few of them did not vote for Trump.

      And don’t forget these vaccines were made available in the US in such a hurry because Trump kicked the normally slower-than-molasses-in-January federal bureaucracy into overdrive.

    4. And vice versa. I’m unvaxxed and staying that way. I will accept all these restrictions on my movements, I will accept being denied medical treatment, I will accept being shunned. And when the vaxist population suffers horrible side effects from their mRNA therapy shots, the exact same rules will apply to them. And be applied vigorously.

  13. In Saskatchewan , of eligible people, 70+ % are fully vaxed and it’s 76% if you include single vaxed. Yet are covid numbers are near the highest they have been. Last year with no vax they where very low at this time. What part of safe and effective am I missing? Something is definitely not working as advertised!

    1. Concernd.

      EXACTLY. I see identical results.

      But lets not forget: Pfizer themselves stated FLAT OUT: These injections are not to immunize ANYONE, but only to reduce the Severity of symptoms. What they purposely NEGLECTED to say, is that you have a Damned good chance of a severe Adverse reaction to not only the jab itself, but its ingredients may well destroy the inner workings of your body over a period of likely 2-3 years.

      Nice Bunch what..??

  14. “They desperately want us to get the shot.
    Desperately.”
    Exactly

    The credibility loss they suffer if many go about their lives without buying into the jabnazies fear porn is something they don’t have the balls to face.

  15. The most important number here is those 70+. 60% are fully “vaccinated”. They are the most vulnerable.

  17. These “passports” are a means to track our movements. The “Cultural Revolution” tactic of ostracising those who refuse the poison jab or getting a passport is pushing compliance. Thinking for oneself is strictly prohibited in the NWO.

  18. Passports do two thing:

    1) Allow the government to achieve full individual moment by moment control. As soon as everyone has a passport they will start doing things like adding your monthly meat consumption. So you go to a restaurant and the restaurant will tell you that your passport indicates you have eaten your allotment of meat for this month so you can only order from the vegan menu. This stuff will be added because of the “climate change emergency” and other fairy tales.

    2) Make sure everyone gets vaxxed. I’m not exactly sure what the point of that is. I do think they need to ensure there is no control group. I will subdivide the possibilities listed according to the depth of evil:

    a) The entire thing was a huge overreaction driven by incompetence in politicians and Big Pharma. They don’t want to admit to this. If they can get everyone vaxxed they can declare the whole thing over and take credit for it and then hope we all forget the whole thing.

    b) The vaccines were a great scam to get big pharma rich and because of looming unexpected serious side effects they need to ensure there is no control group. I see this as less likely because Big Pharma are already full indemnified. It may be government politicians accepted huge payoffs and now, fearing exposure of the scam and liability for all the damage done, they are trying to cover their complicit butts by getting rid of the control group.

    c) This is actually a planned population reduction measure, making it even more important to be rid of the control group. As soon as enough people are vaccinated a new superbug will be introduced that wipes out the vaccinated via pathogenic priming or more likely they will kill us off by attrition taking out a percentage of the population with each booster shot until in 8-10 years they have successfully reduced the population to the numbers the elite want. Young healthy submissive and compliant slaves with no issues like diabetes or obesity to reduce their value as a slave commodity.

    The more time that goes by, the more I see, the more I am leaning towards c. It’s not like the elites have not been saying all along we need to reduce the population. They’ve been quite open about that all along. You will own nothing and you will be happy.

    2. Immunity of Big Pharma can be revoked if a willing government wants to revoke it.
      Right now no immunity to employers, schools, sport leagues or others who require/coerce the taking of these drugs. Trudeau has promised legislation (will need to be retroactive to start of the dosing) to give these groups cover. We’ll see of course what the election result is and what promises Blackie chooses to keep if he returns as PM. PS, I’m guessing CPC/NCP/BQ are all on board with Blackie on giving cover.

    3. Justin, a few years ago I would have suggested that you remove the tin foil hat from your head. Today, not so much.

      I still shake my head when I think about how FAST “they” (whoever they are) got the majority of the global population to wear masks and fear contact with other people.

      Next came the vaccine. Isn’t it amazing that ALL the big pharma companies were able to bring their vaccine to market at about the same time? Then, how quickly the vast majority of the population (80%) got the jab.

      Now, it’s the vaccine passport. My wife and I had dinner with a good friend of mine last fall and we each made a prediction for 2021. My friend thought that the lockdowns would end by April and that masks would no longer be required by July. My wife said that everything would be back to normal by July and that masks would be discretionary pending wide-spread vaccinations. She thought vaccine passports might come into play. I said that businesses would be open but all social distancing and mask protocols would still be mandatory. I also said that vaccine passports would be introduced.

      Eighteen months ago it was “2 weeks to flatten the curve”. Now it’s, “The passports will just in be place for a short time.” Yeah, right…

      Vaccine passports, masks, social distancing, and rotating lockdowns are here to stay for the foreseeable future. I honestly don’t think our power hunger leaders and so-called medical “experts” will give us back our freedom. They are bought and paid for by the federal gov’t, and it doesn’t matter who wins the election, that won’t change. Canada is Fcked.

  19. Demanding passports at football games is arbitrary and silly. I flew from Toronto to Saskatoon (return) and did not require proof of vaccination. Once in the air we all dropped our masks to have a drink and some almonds. Then lunch. Then a request to put the mask back on.

    Pro tip: ask for a coffee after eating and just let it sit there on your table tray. They will leave you alone until the descent. Of course it’s impossible to get covid inside an aircraft, unlike a football stadium (that’s sarcasm Dan from lotus-land).

  20. Blackie’s CBC is excited that the mayor of Calgary is stating that his city will enforce its own measures to combat the China virus, because the provincial government doesn’t care.

  21. So, if I have this right, as a man in woke N. America I have a right to get pregnant, a right to an abortion and a right to breastfeed but no right to deny a government mandated injection.

    I regularly call these psychos “Leftards” for damn good reasons.

  22. And that % will continue to rise of course, as more get vaxxed and the immunity wanes over time.

    I am trying to get #notjustvaccines trending, as I’m so sick of governments and “society” thinking the jab is the only answer.

    This may soon be affecting my employment, so I guess it’s time to become more vocal on social media, and convey common sense points on this issue.

    JIC, anyone hiring?

  23. Communism is the final variant. Stunning how everyone tripped over one another in their rush to have their freedoms and liberties taken away. I have nothing but contempt for those people.
    There’s a bigger game being played behind the scenes, the horrors of which won’t be realized before it’s too late.

  24. Tam the tran is already out saying this winter will be the worst yet for covid. WTF. If they do push ahead with lockdowns again I think the anti-lockdown protests will be so huge they won’t be able to ignore them.

  26. This figure might be accurate if the testing protocol for the vaccinated were the same as for the unvaccinated, but it, ya know, ain’t.

    The unvaccinated are presumed to be a threat and subjected to frequent testing despite the absence of symptoms, while the vaccinated are presumed to be immunized and only tested after diagnosis by symptoms.

    Thus the vaccinated rate is certainly much higher than reported. The data has been so corrupted by political and financial manipulation that we may never get a useful epidemiological picture of what has gone on.

  27. The passport is to coerce people to get vaxxed. That’s the only off ramp the governments see. There is no other plan.

  28. What about hospitalizations and deaths. More important than cases; covid is ubiquitous, virtually all would test positive imo.
    Saskatchewan deaths overall: 629, in 18 months. .057% mortality. Current daily deaths, 2 or .18/100,000 population.
    With a massive bias towards the sickly very old and others with serious co-morbidities with children virtually unaffected.
    There are so many exceptions, breaches and hypocrisy superspreaders around that it makes no difference what we do.
    Covid will run its course. Vaccines work but we’re finding they’re far from perfect, but evidence shows they prevent death.
    But the virus of government mutating from individualism to collectivism via progressive statism is now more transmissible.
    But unlike the delta variant, this old strain is mutating to a stronger form, so therefore it will eventually kill its human host.
    But government isn’t as smart as viruses. Kick out the parasites while we’re bitching about masks and vaccine passports.
    But we don’t. So they lock us down killing good government by chasing the perfection of zero cases, Australia madness awaits.

    1. It appears as though hospitalizations are the emerging problem. With the ICUs filling up, the sick but not immediately dying (like those in chemo-therapy etc.) will be turned away. That can’t be a good thing regardless of vaccinations and their effectiveness (or lack thereof). I know this firsthand as by the time I was put in the hospital my weight had dropped from 185 to 122 lbs. My doctor couldn’t see me. Emergency wouldn’t help – sent me home twice (because I wasn’t dying that day). The mother of a friend was finally diagnosed with stage 4 pancreatic cancer – nobody wanted to see her at first because they are up to their arm-pits in covid-sick old, fat, smokers.

  29. Here’s a story I saw today that makes a poignant point on the topic at hand. Since Halloween’s around the corner here’s a classroom story having shades of 1692 Salem following a recent smallpox epidemic:

    “One of my friends told me about a powerful lesson in her daughter’s high school class recently. They’re learning about the Salem Witch Trials, and their teacher told them they were going to play a game.

    “I’m going to come around and whisper to each of you whether you’re a witch or a regular person. Your goal is to build the largest group possible that does NOT have a witch in it. At the end, any group found to include a witch gets a failing grade.”

    The teens dove into grilling each other. One fairly large group formed, but most of the students broke into small, exclusive groups, turning away anyone they thought gave off even a hint of guilt.

    “Okay,” the teacher said. “You’ve got your groups. Time to find out which ones fail. All witches, please raise your hands.”

    No one raised a hand.

    The kids were confused and told the teacher he’d messed up the game. “Did I? Was anyone in Salem an actual witch? Or did everyone just believe what they’d been told?”

    And that is how you teach kids how easy it is to divide a community.”

    Division destroys. And it’s all too easy to use on the scared, weak and ignorant.

  30. International Lawyer Dr. Reiner Fullmich, head of the Corona Investigative Committee in Germany has just released a summary of his findings, so far.

    “If I had been told this a year ago, I would not have considered it to be possible. Now after questioning hundreds of experts, it is clear beyond doubt and provable: at no time was it about health.”
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/d8Ks20Z74yKl/

  31. Where is the category of Had COVID-19 Previously and Has COVID Again?

    Maybe they do not include it, because it is so rare? Like zero or one?

    Maybe those silly college kids with their COVID Parties last year were actually on to something?
    Get a bad cold, get well, be immune.
    As long as they do not infect an older person, a land whale or someone with co-morbidities, the young person would likely cause no harm.

  32. Apparently math isn’t Kates or SDA readers’ strong point. What’s important is the RELATIVE RISK RATIO. Go ahead and look at the data in Alberta and Manitoba.

    1. Since we are not good at math here on SDA, maybe you could show your calculations and SUM up the obvious as too what we cannot see!

      Waiting patiently.

      Thanks in advance, from the dummies here at SDA!

    2. RRR is meaningless. ARR is near zero for both mRNA vaxxes. We had this discussion before! Why are you suppressing ABSOLUTE risk reduction data?

    3. Allan – the relative risk ratio might be important to you as an individual but that is not the problem. The ICUs are filling up with sick people because the system isn’t set up to handle the high absolute number of people all getting sick at the same time. Relative only benefits the individual. It’s basic math. One is a ratio the other a total count.

      1. The ICUs would have far fewer people in it if more were vaccinated. It significantly reduces your chance of needing ICU.

        Alberta’s woes rest squarely on the unvaccinated. You simply cannot add ICU capacity out of thin air. It has to come from other rooms, and regular rooms will not do.

        1. The ICUs would also be less full if nobody smoked or failed to exercise or did drugs or any other unhealthy habits.
          So WTF is your point? Prove the unvaccinated hurt anybody but themselves or other unvaccinated adults, or STFU.
          What’s next, you’re going to tell us flatten curve referred to cases? Ever since the actual curve flattened eh?
          Idiots hoping we don’t have memories, screen shots or common sense, with no goal other than to divide and conquer.
          There’s just enough morons, apathetics or vote splitting fools to keep them in power. Citizens afraid of their shadow.
          A government big enough to promise, not give, you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
          That is where progressivism always heads because it’s a derivative of Marxism, not liberalism as statists stooges claim.

        2. Well, the stats indicate that only sbout 1% of people are getting seriously ill with Covid. Since many are already vaccinated, pressures on ICU’s should be slowing down. If I am unvacvinated, my chances of getting seriously ill are still around 1% ( or even less for younger people.) I don’t see how the unvacvinated could be causing much of a problem.
          Also do not overlook the fact that ABSOLUTE vaccine effectiveness has only ever been at 1 to 2%. Absolute measures real world effectiveness ( not as a comparison to a control group). I think people — including many in the public health sector have become hopelessly confused.

        3. Bitch please, Chicoms managed to built field hospitals in days. And they did not gut their economy while at it. The point is forced compliance and then move to a social credit score.

          Also, you’re apiece of excrement.

        4. So by your logic you should be prohibited from having playdates with UnMe, because every time you play one of you (or both) end up with foreign objects stuck in your orifices and that clogs up the ICU space?

  33. Only people that are unhappy with themselves are mean to others!

    And Alan…what is your “strong point?”
    Me thinks a professional contrarian.

  34. In Alberta, roughly 50% of COVID deaths are fully vaccinated. You can’t tell this directly from the numbers the government publishes, because they don’t want you to realize this. But, they publish “deaths since January 1, 2021” or since June, for vaccinated versus unvaccinated. They publish this stat because back in January, <1% of the population was vaccinated, so all the deaths were not fully vaccinated….making everyhthing look worse for the unvaccinated.

    If you record the deaths per category to date every day, you can figure out the current split of vaccinated versus unvaccinated who are dying. It’s about half vaccinated.

    Remember too, people who are single dose or two dose but less than 14 days after second dose are lumped into the e unvaccinated number. This makes the numbers much worse.

    The government knows this, and when they talk about how all the people who are vaccinated who died were old and/or had comorbidities as an excuse. They pretended this wasn’t the case when they were whipping the population into a panicked frenzy for the first year of the pandemic.

    If a politicians lips are moving they are lying.

  35. “We have been very patient. Possibly too patient. The time for patience is over. The choice to not get vaccinated is not just affecting you. It is now seriously impacting those who did do the right thing. And it is seriously impacting those who cannot get vaccinated — our children. And it is prolonging the pandemic for everyone. The choice to not get vaccinated is creating consequences for others…” — Premier Scott Moe, September 16, 2021

    1. No Ted. These are not sterilizing vaccines. Transmissions still happen, and they will not lead to herd immunity. If you think the ” vaccine” protects you — get one, but the unvaccinated are not a threat to anyone. The ” right” thing to do is to stop scapegoating the unvaccinated.

    2. Seems to me in another post (to which I replied), you suggested that BOTH sides were engaging in divisive rhetoric.

      If you were to read that reply, you will notice that you just shamefully have proven my point.

  38. 20% from 75% of the population.
    80% from 25% of the population.

    For those of you who can’t do the math that means that the unvaccinated are 12 times more likely to be hospitalized for Covid than the unvaccinated.

    But keep on citing 20%. I’m sure it makes you feel better.

    1. That 20% is way too high. Even Joe the Schmoe said that if you get vaccinated, you won’t go to the hospital, and you won’t die from Covid.

      Seems that promise was a little leaky, don’t you think? Almost as leaky as these “vaccines!”

  39. “New Covid cases”? Cases? Cases???

    “Cases” simply means people who have been exposed to the virus. No vaccine can prevent exposure. Even if the vaccine was 100% effective, it cannot prevent exposure. It is as if they were touting a common cold vaccine (at least four variants of common cold are coronaviruses), you cannot prevent exposure, that is why it is called common.

    Any “scientific study”, or “medical data” that uses “cases” for its main statistic is based on a lie. “Cases” are irrelevant. DEATH is relevant.

    The relevant statistic, average age of death, 78, average age of death from Covid…78. Any questions?

    Meanwhile, what do we want? Less death. Death is relevant. Ivermectin, used in an area of India with some 240 million people, resulted in almost no virus left, not even “cases”. The vaccine may help lessen sickness and death (the only relevant statistics), but Ivermectin prevents, that is, KILLS, the virus altogether. Clearly, our “health experts”, or at least “great leaders”, do not actually want to kill the virus, or improve our health, by these vaccine passports, since they are actually hampering efforts to get us the one medicine that has been proven to actually KILL THE VIRUS. And not only kill it, but kill it in the entire population. Yes, even the “cases” they claim to be so worried about.

    Lastly, do you suppose, if we spend an infinite amount on healthcare, and/or take away all freedoms and civil rights, that we will live forever, and never die? No. Therefore, what price should we be willing to pay for how much more safety from death that will get us in the end anyway? The death rate from Covid is now so low, identical to the average age of death from everything else, that the price we should be willing to pay, in civil rights, is zero.

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