33 Replies to “We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars”

  1. “Where will all the Lithium come from……”

    Well African child slavery seems to be the odds on favourite for the Liberal Elite.

    1. That’s Cobalt. Wrong slave plantation. (note – not “you’re wrong”, but “wrong plantation”, thereby agreeing with the premise.)

  2. Just because your fire department doesn’t want to spend to train you on battery fires, doesn’t mean that you can’t read the free resources from NFPA on your own…

    1. Training isn’t the issue. The issue is equipment. Metal fires are very hard to fight and require specialized materials. I was trained in fighting magnesium fires by one of the major producers of magnesium metal. Most VFD’s are not equipped for this.

  4. Kate / others …. did u see in the comments one guy said “Here’s a thought …. how about burning Teslas to make electricity”
    I Love It!!

    1. Funny comment … but burning a $ 50,000 – $150,000 automobile for a 4hr Fire won’t be heating many homes (although … with the rate of my PG&E increases …)

      However, the Tesla Fire may make for a nice Viking sendoff for the unfortunate owner who gets trapped inside when the power burns out.

      1. One would have to have a lot of petro-dollars for that to make sense, wouldn’t it? It was never intended as a solution for the poor, only as a way for the ultra-rich to feel better about themselves.

  5. Lithium ion batteries make liquid fires, not metal fires.
    That being said, li-ion batteries are much more volatile than gasoline. Even when “uncharged” they have a fair energy density, and very slight damage can cause self-ignition quite easily: Think of storing your gasoline at just below flashpoint with some oxidizer thrown in for good measure. Li-ion tech has its uses, cars ain’t one of them.
    Li-ion tech is not, and will never be suitable for cars. They should be using LiFePo.

    1. I was a patent examiner in the USPTO battery and fuel cell group. Lithium battery fires are intense, almost explosive the combustion happens so fast. The fires are so hot that they melt other metals and can ignite things not normally thought combustible. Almost all combustion occurs in the vapor state, even gasoline. This is why volatility matters. But Lithium fires are so hot, almost everything is volatile.

      1. It’s just a flammable electrolyte, kept going by heat from a short circuit, so a combination burning liquid/electrical fire. Type ABC extinguishers will work, you just need to keep on using it until all the electricity is drained. It is NOT a metal fire.
        Extinguishers for use on burning metals, lithium in particular, are NOT recommended for use against burning Li-ion batteries.

        1. Yeah, but the heat will cause a metal fire, and most ABC extinguishers empty before these fires are controlled

          1. Iron or aluminium fires?
            I don’t know about aluminium, but my experience playing with thermic lances says you need a supply of some pretty pure oxygen to keep an iron fire going, unless you have some unreasonably high surface are, like steel wool.
            I’ve removed iron parts from aluminium housings with oxy-acetylene torches, and while some aluminium did oxidize, it never caught fire.
            I would guess that 99.99% of a car is iron, aluminium and copper.
            The batteries are about 6% lithium in solution, the rest is electrolyte, aluminium, copper, lead, a steel jacket, some new-fangled ones use organic polymers made mostly of carbon…
            I wonder how well copper burns.

  6. The same thing applies via solar panels, they are full of toxic earth minerals ergo the damage when they burn could be toxic to the extreme.

    1. That can be said for anything, from your bed and furniture, to your appliances, flooring, roof shingles, particle board, etc, pretty much everything that makes up the modern world and can burn.

  7. 72 Virgins.

    IED’s with wheels.

    Why do I sense the participation of the religion of peace? Got BOMBs? No problem; we deliver.

    1. The energy density in a tank of gas is much, much higher than that in Li-ion cars.
      Li-ion is stupid for cars, but don’t believe all they hype you hear about how dangerous they really are. I urge you to actually study the technology, ignore the MSM hype on both sides, and come to your own conclusions. They don’t explode with any serious force, but they can be made to burn much more easily than a tank of gas can be, and are almost impossible to extinguish until all the charge is gone, which can take hours.

      1. LOL.
        The new Yuppy/Trendy Islamic terrorist:
        $1000 for a beater, a BBQ tank, a 30 gallon drum of gasoline and a few pounds of potassium nitrate, or $50 000 for a Tesla that will do 1/10th the damage. Decisions, decisions.

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