There is no independently-produced evidence in the scientific literature that organic foods offer consistent nutritional or safety advantages over conventional foods. Some claimed advantages, like higher levels of antioxidants or omega-3 fatty acids or phenols, may not be advantages at all, say scientists. Other differences may be the result of whether a cow was grass fed or grain fed and have nothing to do with whether it was raised organically. Claims that organic crops are more “nutrient dense” have not been consistently supported in independent studies.
Notice how quickly “organic food” went from a fringe movement to mainstream acceptance? That’s because corporations saw that they could charge more for organic food, with higher profit margins.
EVERYBODY who sells “organic” food, sells it at a higher price.
If there were a big heap of smaller producers selling at low prices, the Corps would be out of the market. Reality is that the larger enterprises are usually better at it.
So does that mean I can continue to piss on the tomato patch and call them organic ?
A lot of whats labelled organic is a scam. A field near me has potatoes that are sold in the city as organic, and yet they were sprayed a number of times. Including top kill in the late summer.
Under “organic” rules, it depends on what they were sprayed with.
I have always said that all food is organic, I said it many times here at SDA. The definition of organic was always supposedly grown without pesticides. That wasn’t always true either. One other point I used to like to make is that crude oil is 100% organic. So folks enjoy your food, heat and light courtesy of oil and gas of which Canada has an abundance. Anyone who attempts to deprive you of that, well you can use dirt for things other than growing food.
Pesticides are made from organic chemicals. Tell that to a true believer and watch her head explode.
Also…. Some hippie confused organic with orgasm. Later he bungled his way to the top of his government department. Then he declared “organic” food a reality.
“Organic” is a buzzword used by marketers to grift gullible “progressives”.
When I am at a Safeway I always ask the attendant where the In-Organic carrots are.
They look at me puzzled…. They don’t understand the question so I just tell them All carrots are Organic no matter how they were grown..
Like all vegetables are organic. Industry has tried to re-define what organic is.
On the “no antibiotics” theme, what do they do with beef cattle these days that get sick?
Shoot, shovel, shut up. Those also go into tankage for making fertilisers and other useful industrial organic products.
Separate it, give it antibiotics and then it can’t be called raised without antibiotics! lol Still has to wait through a withdrawal period to empty out the drug before entering the food chain… probably straight to A&W! hahaha
https://canadabeef.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/3317_CANBEEF_factsheet_ANTIBIOTICS-FEB2017.pdf
But, but, all my organic friends insist my vegetables are drenched in pesticides, and GMO’s … Oh My! And my meats saturated in female hormones (handy if I decide to transition, I guess).
Their foods are … “clean”
I raise organic 100% grass fed beef, and organic pasture heritage breed pigs and chickens and have for the past 5 years. Organic does not equate to “sustainable” or “more nutritious”. It just means you follow the rules (which are scattershot to say the least) and keep good records. On the beef front, 100% grass fed is much more nutritious than corn/grain fed (20% more protein, much higher vitamin A,D E, has vitamin K2 and high in Omega 3). But you can be organic corn/grain fed even though it’s less healthy for the cows and for humans. Eating “clean” food, no chemicals, has resulted in my health and my customers health improving substantially (I’m 62, work 7 days/week, 8-15 hours/day) used to take anti-inflammatory pills daily and chiropractor every two weeks. Now, none of the above. So it does make a difference but I agree a lot of the advertising is bull and a scam. Best advice? Buy local when possible and visit the farm yourself. No farmer will say no to a visit unless they have something to hide.
Just a question. What do you feed in the wintertime? Cows are not that great about foraging in the snow.
We fed alfalfa hay in the winter.
Only hay that I bale myself from properties I lease on multi-year arrangements. The pastures vary in grass/ alfalfa etc mix but tend to be very diverse in grass/weed mix. None have been sprayed in under 10 years.
I buy my half side of beef from a local butcher who uses her husband’s cattle grown the same way. There is absolutely NO comparison in the quality of the meat or the taste. Plus it’s a tiny fraction of the price while the local ranch owner gets far more for his beef on the hoof. Get rid of the corporate middle man. Win win.
Well, Its either organic or its SILICA based….and not sure bout you guys, I kinda like “organic” as in NORMAL foods…
When ya see “Organic” Bananas at 3.80/lb and std ones at .77/lb it’s not hard to choose.
SCAM just like package sizing facilitated by the switch to metric. A lb of bacon now 375gm when it should be 452 gms.
Fuckers…
Why wouldn’t I like GMOs? I’m one myself. 🙂
I’m mostly carnivore and spend a certain amount of time in communication with sectors of the carnivore community.
Firstly, beware of Healthy User Bias. People who claim to eat “organic” are not eating organic junk-food. They are not tending to eat hyper-processed foods, smoking or drinking to excess….
For many people, the health benefits of carnivore are very real, but despite a great deal of argument and claims in favour of “grass-fed” and “organic” meat sources, there is little or nothing in the scientific literature showing a major difference in results from eating grass-fed or “organic”. People on budgets are seeing marked health benefits while eating supermarket hamburger patties.
The takeaway – whether you want to go carnivore or just a good, clean, whole food diet – is that there may well be things that you are eating that are more harmful for your health than the rigorously-tested products used in mainstream agriculture.
Yes, they are tested. The whole debate about the mRNA vaccines not being tested has been repeated endlessly over Ag-Chemicals and products. I could not stick those mRNA vaccines in a cow or sheep because they haven’t been adequately tested. There is a strong belief that big chemical corporations love strict testing rules because only they have the budgets to carry out the programs, so only their products get registered for use on their foods.
Takeaway? Eat what you want. Don’t indulge in superstitions. We are not trying to poison our customers for the obvious reason that a happy customer is a repeat customer.
I was in a fancy downtown restaurant with friends in Denver a few years ago. The menu was one page long, the other page a diatribe of stupid about their locally sourced, organic ingredients.
When the waiter came to take my order, I asked to see the GMO menu.
I like eating locally grown. Makes eating more fun and varied. And I find it interesting to know where it came from, who grew it and their stories. You could simply ignore it but no. Instead you chose to be snarky and rude to the server and possibly to your dinner friends who thought you might like that restaurant.