“One, Two, Three, Four, Many…”

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The Ontario Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA) will be holding a retreat to discuss the power and potential of indigenous knowledge systems in math. 

“Math teachers who go to this retreat on Feb 6-7th (Mon + Tues) will learn to incorporate indigenous ‘knowledge systems’ to ‘create transformative learning” for their students,” said former Ontario teacher Chanel Pfahl in a Tuesday tweet. 

“Because ‘mathematics, along with other subjects, are not exempt from colonial bias.’” 

53 Replies to ““One, Two, Three, Four, Many…””

  1. One, two, three, four … many.
    Hilarious thread title Kate!
    I wonder if they’ve ever had anything as sophisticated as the abacus.

    EPIPHANY:
    Hit me yesterday that one of the many joys of being three score and twenty + is that I’m not angry anymore. I’m finding everything funny. I’m reading Whitney Webb’s magnum opus One Nation Under Blackmail, and while corruption is a monumental problem, the antics and shennanigans of the corrupters are really quite funny — so funny that I may re-categorize this from a “day book” to a “bedtime book”.

    1. One charming memory from some Cree lessons is the numbers from one to ten.

      Ten – mitâtaht

      Nine – kîkâmitâtaht (literally “almost ten”)

      1. What about 10 to the 15h power. What would that look like, infinity of mouth clicks.
        They need to be told to sit down and shut up or leave.

    2. Munnah. We want munnah not math.
      Besides we already had our own Keppler.
      We already build nuclear reactors.
      MUNNAH NOT MATH.

    3. One rock. Two rock. Many rock.

      It’s not a joke though. Primitive tribes have been found who counted 1, 2, 3 many. Hence the term, three’s a crowd (little joke there)

  2. Most (but not all) mathematics taught to K12 students was developed in ancient Egypt, Greece, Persia, and India. There’s a reason it’s called Al-Jabr.

    1. Al-Jabr is a late addition to that long list . Persian Baghdad around 800AD most taken from the Greeks circa 250 BC. except zero which is firmly Indian

    3. So-called Arabic numerals are, like algebra, also adopted from the conquered, in this case the Hindus – or polytheists as the muslims like to call them as a slur. But no rivalry between muslim and infidel can usurp the rivalry between sunni and shiite.

  3. Another reason to take your kids out of school, and home-school. Man, these leftists are too far gone to ever be brought back to sanity, let alone reality.
    But… (again, I’m repeating myself) It’s all part of the plan. Make the kids incredibly stupid so that cannot survive on their own. They would only have one choice in life… and that’s to rely on big-brother government.
    FATAL mistake!!!

    Oh… and make them hate themselves in the process, so that they would feel guilty for something they never had done, and go through life feeling inferior because of their skin color.

    Absolute tyranny!

    1. OLD MATH- A woodlot is comprised of 10 acres. Each acre yields 50 cords of wood. A cord costs $50. How much money does the woodcutter earn?
      NEW MATH- A woodcutter receives a sum of money for destroying a beautiful forest. How do you feel about this? What impact does it have on the squirrels and birds?
      We are doomed!

  5. How can one possibly justify the existence of groups such as the “Ontario Mathematics Coordinators Association (OMCA)” and the endless tweaking of the math curriculum, especially at the elementary level? With ever declining achievement levels every province frequently independently creates a new home-grown miracle solution to turn the tide.

    Basic math and science are taught universally and some jurisdictions have better results than others. Why?

    According to one study, Singapore did best, followed by Hong Kong, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Finland, Estonia, Switzerland, Netherlands and Canada rounding out the top 10.

    At first, one might think of ethnic and cultural causes but there are Orientals and Europeans in the top group. What methodologies should we adopt from the best and stop reinventing the wheel just to keep “local experts” employed?

    2. In a battle between:

      “Ontario Mathematics Coordinators Association”
      and
      “Ontario Association for Mathematics Education”

      who sucks up more taxpayer bucks to provide little to no value?

      /yes, they both exist

  6. Perhaps we can have a conversation with these people find some common ground…
    “OK, if you teach my son real math, you can chop his dick off.”
    or
    “OK, you can pollute my son’s head with all sorts of Frankfurt School lies, just don’t chop his dick off.”
    Isn’t it nice to have freedom of choice?

  7. Indigenous knowledge indeed. Aside from legacy survival skills which still might exist for some, I have yet to run across chemically deterministic knowledge of the sciences that surpasses colonial superiority. White guilt nurturing and acceptance has resulted in a Stockholm Syndrome creature who can easily be identified by their pre-event acknowledgements. Allowing those affected to teach your children is also indicative of the same pathology.

  8. If I was an Indian with just a bit of self-respect, I’d be pretty insulted.
    But its the squeaky wheel – there are many on Whitey’s car – that gets the grease.

  9. One would have thought that using pre-literate and pre-numerate cultures as examples to follow for any form of education would be a red flag.
    One would have been wrong.
    This from a site that has been known to say that evolution and cosmology are not sciences. The were “colonized” by evil atheists like Edwin Hubble, Einstein, Darwin, etc. Now you need to “de-colonize” them by saying that God created each and every species, ab-initio, that the fossil record is a hoax by the devil, that the Big Bang is a myth, some even go so far as to maintain that the Earth is flat.

    1. The elites use similar math, but it takes entire populations into account.
      Country A, B, attrition rates, tax bases, size of armies, value of matériel, etc.
      Our elites agree with Stalin :
      1 death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic.

  11. …and then you get these aholes who spout tripe like “If you can’t explain it to a 5 year old, you don’t really understand it.”
    How to build a diesel engine:
    Take some special rock outta the ground, heat it up and do stuff to it until you get iron, then mix the iron with other stuff, and make all sorts of special shapes out of it that fit together in a very special way…
    Moments of inertia, lateral loads on parts, you say? Obviously you don’t understand.

  13. Can anyone produce the original Aboriginal writings on their mathematics theories? No? Oh right, they hadn’t even developed writing. Sure, I’ll believe they had powerful math knowledge too.

  15. I’m looking forward to seeing a new transport category aircraft designed using “indigenous math.”

    1. The Dirac Delta function is not analytical.
      Reeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
      It can be expressed as a limit, however.

        1. Its easy to go with stepwise functions to screw us over.
          I’ll call your Heaviside and play my “The superset of the real number set.”
          Aleph 2! Bwaha!
          Try not to break my brain with the superset of Aleph 2.

    3. I can hardly wait to see the birch bark super tankers propelled by paddles delivering petroleum products around the world while navigating using indigenous mathematics.

  16. Finally, a potent explanation for the subjectivity of indigenous records of fish and game harvests over the past two millennia.
    “Wives got very fat that winter.”

  17. It seems to me that math instruction these days does not include memorizing the times table. Why is that? Is it because it doesn’t come easy to certain diverse minds? So, they got rid of it to cater to a minority? I bet Einstein knew the times table.

  18. Indian math? They had no math. They barely had arithmetic. I’m betting the smartest bush Indian 200 years ago couldn’t pass grade 1 Arithmetic even verbalized. But don’t be critical. At their rate of development they would have had the wheel in another 10,000 years, metallurgy in 15,000.

  19. In a few short years, Canadian aviation is going to be totally lit.

    Update: Apologies to DiracDelta above, who is making the same point!

  20. Math… If they can’t do it, they’ll try to teach it;
    If they can’t teach it, they’ll try to administer it; and
    If they can’t even administer it, they will most definitely regulate it.

  21. Dr. Pamela Palmater says you can become an expert in math if you learn it during a Sacred Tree Burning.

  23. Grade 11 Law and English in my niece’s Ontario school are centered around truth, reconciliation, and colonialism so I’m not surprised that math will be also.

  24. Huh….

    1 + 1 =2
    1 + 2= 3
    1 + 3 =4

    1×1=1.
    1×2=2
    1×3=3

    2×1=2
    2×2=4
    2×3=6

    FRACTIONS:
    Multiply ? Straight across
    Divide. ? Invert one & cross multiply

    R O T E f’ing learning works…ALWAYS.
    Anything else is pulled outa their uberwoke University ASS….designed to absolutely fk up your children.

    100% Bullshit
    Period

  25. The right hates math almost as badly as the left does.
    Math is true, nothing else is, despite Goedel. Fascinating that spell-check won’t give me Gödel’s name.

      1. Well, you can, but it usually does not end well. Especially at high speed and low altitude.

  29. I dunno…I’m skeptical that people who never developed the wheel or a written language, knew nothing of chemistry, science or physics and believed that the earth was flat have anything important to teach me.

    1. I will spoil the ending for you: they don’t.

      What fries me is that even if one culture did not invent or develop XYZ, they could at least learn from cultures that did and learn to hustle.

      Pick a global example and you will see.

  30. I’ve read a fair amount of early fur trade history. The Indian when asked how many caribou he saw in a herd could describe numbers in exactly the way the way our host set this thread. She was generous in continuing to 4. Most of the things I’ve read are 1,2 many.

    The red Indian was a shrewd negotiator. Trade was his forte.

  31. Make no mistake – this is an attempt to delete centuries of mathematical knowledge from a variety of cultures in order to keep not only aboriginals but everyone in a state of Khmer Rouge peasant-like stupidity and thuggery.

    Where are those Romanians I ordered?

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