Down The Primrose Path

Shiny Pony Ukraine 131 Comments

Ivan Katchanovski: This is truly unbelievable. This SS Galicia division veteran was also called by Canadian parliament speaker “Ukrainian hero” & “Canadian hero” & thanked “for his service.” Did anyone in parliament or Zelensky realize that he served in Waffen SS division?

Additional background here from Lev Golinkin, at the Jewish magazine Forward.

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131 Replies to “Down The Primrose Path”

  1. A friend of mine was conscripted into the German Army in late 1944. He was 16 at the time. He was told he would be sent to join the SS. He took a huge gulp and said “No Sir. I can not join the SS I am a Christian”. With pistols aimed at his head and thinking I will never see my mother again he heard himself repeat “I can not join the SS because I am a Christian.” He was sent to join the army and a few months later his company was taken prisoner by Canadians. He moved to Canada after the war and became a psychiatric nurse. Even the Germans knew how evil the SS was. Why is Canada now lauding one?

    1. Even if they were evil, they fought communists were were arguably more evil. I’m not going to condemn anyone who took up arms against communists even if they did it in the uniform of the SS.

      If those Ukrainians didn’t fight for Ukraine in the uniform of the SS they’d have fought for Stalin in the uniform of the USSR.

      1. “Even if they were evil, they fought communists were were arguably more evil. I’m not going to condemn anyone who took up arms against communists even if they did it in the uniform of the SS.”

        Wow. That’s a keeper, that one.

        1. Did you even read what I wrote and put some thought into it? I can only conclude you would have chose to fight for Stalin, the guy who killed more Russians than the Germans? Wow, that ones a keeper.

          1. “Did you even read what I wrote and put some thought into it? ”

            I did, sadly.

            “I can only conclude you would have chose to fight for Stalin, the guy who killed more Russians than the Germans? ”

            Your conclusions are as dumb as you are, then.

            “Wow, that ones a keeper.”

            A legend in your own mind, like your sick buddy.

          1. ““Because Stalin killed people who actively opposed him…he didn’t kill people simply because they were born Jewish. Nice try, moron.””

            Went right over your head, didn’t it?

            (as so much does)

            I’m not sure I can ‘dumb it down’ enough for the likes of you to grasp, but I’ll try:

            Everyone knows that Stalin and Hitler (like Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Mao, Robert Mugabe and a host of others) were awful, despicable people. Both were tyrants and mass murderers, and only an idiot (that’s you, Colon) would even stoop to ask a question like “you think Stalin was better than Hitler?” No, clearly neither one was “better” than the other, but if I had to choose which one was a touch more evil it would be Hitler. Stalin killed people he perceived as his enemies to maintain his
            grip on power…Hitler killed those people too, and for the same reasons, but went even further: he invented the Master Race, and began to kill those people he thought were inferior beings (Jews, Gypsies, blacks, etc.)…not because they were threats to him or his rule, but just for Racial Purity. Men, women, children…didn’t matter. They were not Aryans, and therefore they were to be exterminated in gas chambers and have their gold tooth fillings recovered for profit.

            Today, we would say that Stalin (and all the above-mentioned historical mass-murderers) committed war crimes, and that Hitler committed war crimes *and* hate crimes.

            (did you understand any of that, little guy? Or do you once again need to get someone smarter than you to explain it all to you in small, easy-to-understand words?)

          2. The question wasn’t who was worse Stalin or Hitler? That is a question you have invented. The question was: why are russians supposed to be better than Nazis? So your entire tirade missies the point. But let’s look at another detail.

            Poor Freddie backpaddles from:

            “Stalin killed people who actively opposed him”

            to:

            “Stalin killed people he perceived as his enemies to maintain his grip on power…”

            So you no longer claim that they had it coming for standing up to Stalin? It is his perception now that matters? Still wrong, let’s see if you get it right the third time. Hint: they were not different. One wanted pure Aryans the other wanted pure communists.

            Consequently Nazis who support Hitler are no worse than russians who support Stalin and since majority of russians support Stalin, majority of russians are not any better than Nazis.

          3. Stalin killed a great many of his own people, Did Stalin ever try and commit genocide?

            Hitler did that while being a racist as well and incidentally starting ww2.

            Pretty sure, given the choice I would have headed for England.

            I am glad my Polish ancestors got out in the 1880’s

          4. “Did Stalin ever try and commit genocide?”

            Are you seriously asking that?

            “Hitler did that while being a racist as well and incidentally starting ww2.”

            Hitler started WWII together with Stalin. You don’t know that or are you just trying to wish it away?

          5. @Paul

            “I am glad my Polish ancestors got out in the 1880’s”

            As did my Ukrainian ancestors between 1890 – 1915

            Hey maybe we’re related? LOL cheers

      2. WTF are you on…??
        Maybe do a little research SONNY..?

        EINSTAZ GRUPPEN…perhaps..or
        Birkinau, Sobibor,Treblinka..?
        Zyklon B..?

        Spare us all with your utter ignorance.

  3. It’s really too bad this Uke veteran didn’t wear his military decorations. One more thing, can we check the inside of his left bicep for a tattoo or a scar.

    1. That would be his blood type. If you served in the German army you got that kind of tattoo. Other sorts of tattoos were held to be degenerate by the German military. Something all those inferior people did.

      1. Even if they never had the blood type tattoo, anyone treated in an SS hospital got one. I suspect more than a few allied prisoners of war were so tattooed, the ones they never shot.

  4. I can understand being glad you _survived_, and I can understand maybe not having realized what you were doing before joining up. Or feeling that it was the only practical way at the time to strike back against Stalin.

    But being proud of it afterwards? Really?

    And yes, obviously Canada should have no truck with praising it.

  6. They were the National Socialists after all.. The template of liberal democracy.. Every social program in the world, justified with identity politics..

    The only saving grace is Canada’s brand of Nazism turned the master race on its head and its nowhere near as efficient.. But it is equally dangerous because the closer defeat comes the more acute the politics becomes..

    Hail Victory.. Whatever that means..

    1. Nowhere near as efficient because Canada chose the French model of bureaucracy as perfected by the Quebecois.

  7. Or maybe he was fighting against Imperialist Russia’s communist rule of Ukraine?
    Would you rather he fought on the side of Russia for them to control Ukraine?
    That part of the world is not black and white.

    1. When Nazis and Communists go to war over which version of socialism should prevail, perhaps it’s best not to take sides. Your grasp of history may be a bit weak.

      1. “When Nazis and Communists go to war …… perhaps it’s best not to take sides.”

        Bingo!

        Not simply taking sides, we taxpayers are funding this regional conflict for the enrichment of Oligarchs both in Ukraine and the west.

        The billions in unaccounted military equipment is already showing up on the global black-market arms trade including Muslim gangs in Europe and Mexican drug cartels. This of course extends to African, Middle Eastern, South American, South East Asian nations and factional extremist’s in those countries.

      2. Easier said than done when you live in eastern Europe in 1942. Your people have spent the last twenty years getting starved to death and murdered by communists, so when the fascists come to liberate you from the communists you go and kill communists. If you don’t the communists who have spent the last twenty years trying to kill you will now expect you to fight the people who are “liberating” you from the communists.

        2. “Your people have spent the last twenty years getting starved to death and murdered by communists, so when the fascists come to liberate you from the communists you go and kill communists. ”

          Unless you’re Jewish, right Rusty? Then you just march yourself and your children to the gas chambers to be exterminated by the Master Race in the name of racial purity.

          (you’re almost as sick in the head as your buddy Colonialista)

          1. You know that a lot of those communists who were starving people to death in the name of communism were jews don’t you?

        3. However, if “let’s also kill all the Jews” is part of your equation, I have no sympathy for you.

      3. “…perhaps it’s best not to take sides. ”

        Because you’re given a choice? Someone comes to you with a form to fill out and after that you go to your team or check the “:none of the above” box and are left alone? Is that how you think it works?

        “Your grasp of history may be a bit weak.”

        Oh boy, proving yet again that you are irony proof.

  9. When you consider the gov of Canada is the biggest terrorist org in Canada. Why wouldn’t the uni party cheer him on?

  10. Just goes to show you how sick this whole situation in the Ukraine is. Zelensky dares to talk about Russians genociding Ukrainians, while he sends countless young men to their deaths. I do not believe this is a moral war.

    1. So how does it end? Ukraine surrenders, and Russia take over the whole country? Russia withdraws? Those are the ways it ends, unless you have another solution.

      1. “So how does it end? Ukraine surrenders, and Russia take over the whole country? Russia withdraws? Those are the ways it ends, unless you have another solution.”

        It ends when Ukraine finally agrees to allow the referendums on separation for certain areas, the ones they agreed to in 2014 but reneged on later. Russia is keeping the territory it has now, and there is nothing short of NATO troops on the ground *in direct combat* against Russian forces that can possibly change that.

      2. @Rusty Shackleford

        “Those are the ways it ends, unless you have another solution.”

        Well another way it ends is to throw NATO boots on the ground in enough numbers to push Russia back until Russia see’s an existential threat to it’s nation. It’s not like the west hasn’t already stated clearly to Russia that it want’s regime change and the balkanization of Russian territories.

        So then Russia starts out easy with a few small tactical nukes in Ukraine and works up as needed from there. NATO of course reciprocates and you can then kiss those RRSP’s/ 401K’s goodbye.

        1. Screw that. How would you react if the Lower Mainland or Markham decided they wanted to have a referendum to become part of China? All the people who live there are Chinese, so why not? How about Brampton or Surrey having a referendum to become part of India?

          2. @Rusty Shackleford

            “How about Brampton or Surrey having a referendum to become part of India?”

            Like Quebec? Hopefully Alberta.

            Of course a “Post National State” like Canada will have plenty of referendums for separation in it’s future. We only invited in millions of grievance driven ethnicity’s and told them to keep their culture and by default those grievances intact. At what point did anyone not understand they will want to cut out their own piece of the pie one day?

            The big question is what the hell is Ukraine/ Russia’s regional conflict for you?

            No one here is a “Putin lover” as the retards attempt to claim, we are promoting peace and an end to the killing on all sides and stand with Donald Trump. You know MAGA, clean the swamp – who did YOU think you were supporting here, you are 100% on board with the entire globalist swamp and it’s WOKE agenda on this.

          3. “Screw that. How would you react if the Lower Mainland or Markham decided they wanted to have a referendum to become part of China? All the people who live there are Chinese, so why not? How about Brampton or Surrey having a referendum to become part of India?”

            Don’t be absurd. Nations that border each other are generally fairly similar to each other, as opposed to a nation on the other side of the world. A proper comparison to Ukraine/Russia would be the Lower Mainland having a referendum to join the United States, which I would happily support. If the Ukrainians (who want nothing to do with the majority of ethnic Russians in the disputed territories anyway) didn’t want such referendums, they should not have *agreed* to allow them in the first place, should they?

          4. “How would you react if the Lower Mainland or Markham decided they wanted to have a referendum to become part of China?”

            That is a false parallel. China does not have a history of (repeated) genocide against Canadians and Chinese living in Canada are not remnants of Chinese occupation in Canada.

    1. Only some people were held to account and rejected from canada after the war, if you were a nazi collaborator like Freelands granddad, you moved to Alberta and became a pillar of the community, just so that your granddaughter could stand at Nathan Phillips Square holding up a “Blood and Soil” banner.

  13. None of the MPs nor highly paid parliamentary staff nor highly paid PMO staff do their homework. And the opposition parties and their staff are to blame as well.

    There are also many undeserving folks who received various Order of Canada awards.

    1. Homework. That is exactly it. If you read, think, and then act, things go much better. The anti- sheep, if you will. H

    2. Canada is an idiocracy. Trudeau Senior and Junior are not the cause; they are merely the obnoxious symptom of defective cognition on a national scale over many decades.

      1. Two halves of the same socialist coin. Hitler saw through Stalin’s “international socialism” and invented national socialism. Stalin went further and anyone who opposed him became a fascist. All the little commies from then on followed the party line. Same as it ever was.

  17. So all the clapping seals including Pierre Poilievre went along with the whole charade last week slobbering all over these Nazis, yet Christine Anderson comes to town and Poilievre denounced her and punishes his MP’s who met with her. Who in the hell advises this man? Where is his Jewish deputy in this, I assume she didn’t clap along did she?

    1. Lots of hypocrisy abounds.
      Yes, Pierre and the CPC seals also clapped and applauded to celebrate a NAZI.
      All 338 MPs. Cowards, spineless droids.
      Even Liberal JEWS applauded.
      Housefather. Ya’ara HONK HONK Saaks.
      JEWS, applauding 2 Nazis, actually.
      They should be barred from their synagogues, and be forced to visit Dachau.

      1. You know that the Nazi party ended in Berlin in 1945 don’t you? Just because you don’t like them doesn’t make them members of the National Socialist German Workers Party, not being German and all.

    1. “I’m old enough to remember when standing with people that wave swastikas was a bad thing.”

      Yeah, me too. Now we have to watch people like Rusty, CGH, Dee, Colonialista, Allan S and the rest of The Simpletons ™ cheer on the modern-day Nazis in Ukraine.

      1. Are you a commie or commie lover? Are you too thick to understand that I consider them both as bad as each other, with the communists massively outranking the nazis in terms of bloodshed. If I lived in eastern Europe and had to chose between the nazis or the communists I’d chose the Nazis. Who would you chose, and why?

        In this though experiment sitting aside and not choosing sides is not an option. Who would you side with, the side who had been involved in wholesale mass murder not stop since 1917, or the people who invaded in 1941 and killed the communists? Don’t forget that when the Nazis invaded the Communists has already killed tens of millions.

        2. About 250,000 Poles served with the Western allies against the Germans and their allies.
          Poles didn’t like Nazi’s or USSR.
          Where there is a will, there is a way.

          1. You are aware that Polish People’s Army was formed in the East, fought on Eastern Front from Lenino to Berlin and numerically was larger than Polish Forces in the West?

            Not everyone had a choice.

            Were they traitors? No, of course not. Polish forces fighting Germans on the side of Red Army were no different than Ukrainian forces figuring russians on the side of Germany. Neither had the luxury of choosing the perfect ally.

          2. July 11, 2019 – Over 100,000 slaughtered with axes, pitchforks, scythes and knives: The Wołyń massacre started 76 years ago today and lasted for two years.

            Today marks 76 years since the coordinated attack by Ukrainian nationalists on 99 Polish towns and villages in Wołyń.

            Between 1943 and 1945, members of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army massacred thousands of Poles throughout Wołyń, a region that was in Nazi-occupied Poland and is part of present-day Ukraine.

            Throughout the period, it is estimated that around 100,000 Poles died at the hands of Ukrainian nationalists. As part of retaliatory actions, Poles killed between 15,000 and 20,000 Ukrainians.

            The killings were directly linked with radical Ukrainian nationalist Stepan Bandera’s Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists and its military arm, the Ukrainian Insurgent Army………….

            https://www.thefirstnews.com/article/over-100000-slaughtered-with-axes-pitchforks-scythes-and-knives-the-wolyn-massacre-started-76-years-ago-today-and-lasted-for-two-years-6714

          3. So nice Pauline learned about Wolyn now. Never gave a s**** about it until today. Wonder why? Was it because I told him about it yesterday or the day before? Don’t answer that, we know. Like I said before the Polish Ukrainian debate over Wolyn is not yours to have and they are making progress with it without you.

            For a bonus find out where Bandera was and what was he doing the Wolyn genocide?

          4. @ Colonialista

            “Was it because I told him about it yesterday or the day before? Don’t answer that, we know.”

            I can answer that – No you most certainly did not mention it yesterday or any other day previously. Now there is the true “Wonder why?” Don’t answer that, we know.

        3. “If I lived in eastern Europe and had to chose between the nazis or the communists I’d chose the Nazis. Who would you chose, and why?”

          If forced to make such an unpalatable choice, I would choose the communists (for reasons I already tried to explain above to your semi-retarded buddy: the difference between evil vs. evil + hateful).

          ” Don’t forget that when the Nazis invaded the Communists has already killed tens of millions.”

          They didn’t kill them for their skin color or religion, though. Unlike your heroes, the Nazis.
          Are you by chance blond haired and blue eyed? Consider yourself an Aryan, do you? One of the Master Race?

          1. “They didn’t kill them for their skin color or religion,”

            F*** you’re stupid and uneducated. Soviets, did not persecute religion? You really believe that?

        4. Whether or not the guy was a traitor and fighting for the Waffen SS is one issue. The other issue, the more important one is that they actually wheeled out this poor old bastard in the House of Commons, and everybody gave him a standing ovation. Even Her Majesty’s Opposition. That’s all I need to know for now.

    2. Pappy Gunn makes the most relevant point.
      The fact that Trudeau and his lapdog media tried to link the Convoy to nazi’s , then has the gall to do this is what’s really the problem.

      RFK Jr explains the Russia//Ukraine/USA mess and so far none of the commenters here are any where close to getting it.

        1. ““RFK, Jr. on how the war in Ukraine happened” ”

          That guy is well informed and pretty sharp, I’ll give him that. I just wish his voice wasn’t all tremulous.

          (some medical condition, I know…)

  22. History is obviously not taught in school these days. The Russians were on our side during WWII, something our MPs seem to have missed. Good thing that the honoured veteran didn’t respond with “Seig Heil”….

    1. The Russians were allied with Germany, taught Germans how to build and operate internment camps, allowed the Germans to run secret military training camps inside the Soviet Union in the 1930s, held a joint victory parade with them when Poland was conquered, sent Jews from Eastern Poland to the Germans. The Russians were sending vital war materials and food to Germany right up until the day that the Germans turned on them with Operation Barbarossa.

      1. Most people seem to forget that history. And the history of the western democracies intervening in the Soviet revolution try try and stop the communists, and the history of supporting Finland when they were invaded by the communists. Russia was a temporary ally of convenience from the time of the German invasion of Russia until the German surrender.

        1. “Most people seem to forget that history. And the history of the western democracies intervening in the Soviet revolution try try and stop the communists, ”

          Oh, NOW you want to talk about ‘history’, do you? World War Two history?

          Just not the more recent history *starting in 2014* that led directly to this conflict? How convenient.

        2. “Most people seem to forget that history.”

          Some people do remain stuck in their romantic notion of history.

          You do know the Soviet Union ended in 1991, yea? Are those the same “western democracies” of yesteryear legislating laws to protect pedo’s from lapdancing with your children or mutilating their genitals without parental consent?

          I say, no they are not.

          1. You’re talking about Nazis, so I assumed you were talking about WW2, since Nazis haven’t existed since then. Nazi is a word the west made up as short hand for the National Socialist German Workers Party. There hasn’t been a Nazi since 1945 when they stopped selling memberships. Not everyone you hate is a Nazi.

    2. The USSR was not on our side before, during or after WWII. (We sent forces to fight against the Bolsheviks in their civil war after WWI, but they won.) After that, in the years leading up to WWII the USSR facilitated Nazi Germany’s evasion of the Versailles treaty limitations on re-armament (e.g no tanks, no military aircraft.) They allowed the army to test heavy weapons and conduct large scale training and allowed the Luftwaffe to be formed there and to train there. Germany could not have attacked Poland without those forces developed with this assistance from the USSR and is unlikely to.have attacked Poland without confidence that the USSR would not oppose it. But the USSR actually joined them in their plan and took much of Poland’s territory for itself.
      We went to war with Germany because of the invasion of Poland, we had the same reason to be at war with the USSR.
      The USSR then supplied Germany with vital war materials (petroleum, food) without which Germany would have been much hampered in fighting the Western Alliance.
      When Germany turned on its Soviet ally the Western Euopean allies and the U.S.A. sent weapons, munitions, and other supplies to keep them fighting our common enemy.
      It is not a good idea to make an enemy of Russia, but it foolish to think they are real “friends” to anyone. and they are at best unreliable allies.

      1. “It is not a good idea to make an enemy of Russia, but it foolish to think they are real “friends” to anyone. and they are at best unreliable allies.”

        All true, another inconvenient truth is that Russia is a Nuclear superpower who will not bend to western globalist whims because we wish it so.

        Russia absolutely can and will utilize it’s vast nuclear armaments if it feels that it is losing it’s nation or government. The best of western diplomats once knew this to be true of it’s culture and acted accordingly.

        The window of opportunity to control Russia and China as obedient serfs closed 20 years ago. It’s time to return to smarter adult leadership in the west if there is any salvaging western credibility.

          1. The only loser is someone not bright enough to grasp the relevance of nuclear conflict or the actual historical circumstances that brought this conflict on.

            No one is stopping you from jumping on a plane to join your friends on the front line but you.

    3. It was the Soviets. Now that they are not Soviets anymore, maybe they have strayed from the good Socialist path we are all supposed to follow.

  23. Galicia division volunteers joined on the understanding that they would only fight the Russians, not the western allies.

    I meet one some 30 years ago (he’s since died). Near the end of the war, he and his men were being pursued by the Russians in Czechoslovakia. They were able to get to the Americans, who they surrendered to. He understood English, and heard an American officer say to another that they’d be turned over to the Russians. He escaped literally minutes before that happened. From across a field, he saw his men machine-gunned by the Russians. He wandered around Central Europe for a couple weeks until he came across some British soldiers, who he surrendered to. Ended up in internment camp in Italy.
    He eventually immigrated to Canada, was permitted to join the Canadian army, and served, with distinction, in Korea. Fought communism his whole life.

    1. Quite right. You are referring to Operation Keelhaul. That’s something many of the SDA commenters prefer to ignore.

    1. “……SDA is full of Putin’s idiots.”

      SDA has a few WEF globalist idiots that support war and the elitist warmongers who crap all over them in every way possible.

      Don’t b*tch about parental rights, transgendering your kids, loss of freedoms, censorship, global carbon taxes while you continue to support the very globalists legislating it.

  25. Oh look, it’s so-called conservatives licking the boots of Russia, and by extension, their Chinese allies too.

    Remember when conservatism meant having a moral compass?

    Give me a break with this bullshit propaganda. Only one side in this fight is acting like nazis, and it ain’t Ukraine.

    1. “Give me a break with this bullshit propaganda. Only one side in this fight is acting like nazis, and it ain’t Ukraine.”

      Only one side has actual Nazis, and it *is* Ukraine.

    2. @Honky Tonk Man

      “Oh look, it’s so-called conservatives licking the boots of the WEF, and by extension, their transvestite allies too.”

      Fixed it.

      “Only one side in this fight is acting like nazis, and it ain’t Ukraine.”

      Let me guess, Trudeau and the Freedom Convoy maybe, or taking farms away from the Dutch farmers? That’s the side you support along with our tax dollars.

      1. Thanks for proving my point, Paul. At one point conservatives were the adults in the room. Now the rank and file are only capable of spewing paranoid conspiracy theories from Facebook and YouTube.

        I guarantee you that Reagan and Thatcher wouldn’t have kissed Putin’s ass. But the times are a changing.

        1. @Honky Tonk Man

          You only need to look at who you parrot, Liberal MSM and frothing leftist talking points like the girls on The View. Seriously take a look at who’s side of the conflict your on here.

          We will continue to call for peace and an end to it. Reagan was a real Conservative who called for peace with the Soviet Union and succeeded, as do real Conservative voices like Steve Bannon and Donald Trump to name only a few.

          Your voice is in lockstep with the very globalists you b*tch about on every other issue posted – except this one, and you don’t see it.

          1. If the fact that globalists are denouncing Putin’s actions is enough to get you to side with a violent, autocratic invader, then that tells me your moral compass is completely broken.

            Did it ever occur to you that the globalists might be right on this one?

          2. “Did it ever occur to you that the globalists might be right on this one?”

            LOL

            I’ll stick with draining the swamp thank you.

          4. “Change my mind.”

            No need to.

            The simple difference is that you will never have to live under Putin, but you and your children or anyone else you care about will live under the boot of the globalists. Your unabashed support for them today will buy you no favours in the future. That is even if they don’t take us to full scale war which is clearly heading in that direction if your paying any attention.

        2. “I guarantee you that Reagan and Thatcher wouldn’t have kissed Putin’s ass.”

          With both (or either) of them in power this would never have happened in the first place.

  27. Nazis are awful until they help put people on the moon… then the media and everyone else looks the other way.
    After the war western nations as well as the Soviet Union tripped over themselves in their rush to get the best and brightest nazis for their other worldly technical expertise. Apparently the U.S. came out on top.
    In a perfect world Werner Von Braun would’ve been hung. Making several trips to Auschwitz and Buchenwald looking for jewish kids to work to their deaths.
    History is a MF’er.

  29. So far it looks like the “Don’t mention the Ukrainian Nazis” rule among Canadian media is holding, but they’ll have to put out some government spin for this eventually.

    I assume they’re circulating lots of drafts along the lines of “the Waffen SS wasn’t all bad – in fact most of the people they massacred were Russians”. I look forward to see how far they will push it.

  30. “Putin’s idiots at work.”

    Absolutely. Some are idiots like Freddie or Pauline, others are influencers. I have been stomping down the infestation from the moment the ignoble orckish horde invaded Ukraine.

    1. At least NATO’s head Jen Stoltenberg confirmed what we, the civilized who do not resort to insulting those who do not agree with us, knew all along. The war started back in 2014. And, surprise, the war was started by the US under Obama with the cooperation of NATO.

      If you want to be taking seriously Colon, debate respectfully in lieu of the typical leftist weapon of name calling, etc.

      https://thetruthseeker.substack.com/p/nato-says-war-started-2014-war-against-russia#:~:text=It%E2%80%99s%20a%20Bombshell%3A%20NATO%E2%80%99s%20Secretary%20General%20Jens%20Stoltenberg%C2%A0confirmed,Stoltenberg%20unequivocally%20confirmed%C2%A0that%20%E2%80%9Cthe%20war%20started%20in%202014%E2%80%B3.

      1. So you refer to me as Colon and then cry about name calling? I get that irony is a difficult concept to grasp but seriously, FOAD demagogue.

        Also your link is garbage and helping Ukraine move away from russia and towards civilization is a good thing anyway and it is not starting a war.

        Russia started the in 2014 by invading Ukraine. Ukrainians had every right to deal with russian fifth column terrorists within Ukraine any way they pleased, including expelling them all and shooting everyone who resided.

        And russia was to stay at the border and cry. The moment russia crossed the border, russia proven yet again that they have no right to exists. Period.

        It is civilized world’s duty now to help Ukraine survive and to help russia collapse, never to recover again.

    2. “Absolutely. Some are idiots like Freddie or Pauline, others are influencers. I have been stomping down the infestation from the moment the ignoble orckish horde invaded Ukraine.”

      You couldn’t stomp a cockroach without squealing in terror and pissing yourself.

      1. You think you’re soaked in my urine because I fear you? LOL, keep telling yourself that. And “Do Me Babies” are a favorite spots team of your mother?

        1. “You think you’re soaked in my urine because I fear you? ”

          No, I think you pissed yourself because you are a whiny little coward. Try to keep up.

  31. My Dad was a veteran of the Second World War and was well treated by the Canadian government in his older years. The local paper made editorials about him and the community supported him and others like him. He was deservingly proud of his service,but never glorified the hell he survived. I know that if he saw what we saw in Parliament and understood who that other vet was,he would be disgusted. As am I. This is an outrage.

  32. Technically / officially the “14. Waffen-Grenadier-Division der S.S. (ukrainische Nr. 1) “Galizien”.

    Between 70,000 and 100,000 young Ukrainians) responded to the German’s 28 April 1943 appeal for volunteers. After being decimated on the Ostfront in July-August 1944 it was reconstituted and used to put down several nationalist and partisan uprisings in the greater Reich. It became the 1st Division of the Ukrainian National Army on 25 April 1945, a mere 13 days before the end of hostilities on 8 May.

    They certainly got around. I wonder who pays his military pension?

  33. The only people seeing any benefit from this war are an odd collection of NATO country billionaires and Russian oligarchs, anyone with a lot of shares in companies supplying both sides. And the war is essentially a stalemate, and could keep going like this for years. It makes me wonder if the facade of NATO vs Putin, sworn enemies, is not simply a cover story to allow the profits to keep rolling in. There may be also a handful of Ukrainians who benefit, while their fellow citizens see their lives entirely disrupted.

    The fact that Clinton and Biden continually cast Putin as a mortal enemy, given that they are habitual liars and very wealthy from corrupt practices, suggests to me that there is a deal under the table, to keep this exercise going, and the fact that Putin has never really changed his approach after various large losses rules out large-scale escalation, or even actual Russian outrage at their losses; both sides see the death toll as no real problem, and why should it matter if the only reason for this war is to make money? I see a parallel with the tolerated slaughter of WW-I when for four years armies made only limited progress and millions died in a nearly pointless meat grinder. Of course it was presented as something else then and since then, but I’ll bet a few people got very wealthy from all of that, while thousands of others saw no benefits at all, just endless hardship for a very limited end result (a guarantee of a future second war, basically, and the appearance of the Bolsheviks in power).

  35. As someone who has spent years studying World War II in the European theater, I could very easily give out plenty of information to all of you that would explain the goings-on in Ukraine during World War II. But I’m not going to say a word because the piece of shite Liberals and Justin Turdeau would be able to take the information I give you to save themselves from the scandal that has just exploded in their faces!

      1. Wrong, it is you morons that find Nazis the same way the left did during Freedom Convoy or recent Parents protests.

  37. Make no mistake, the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS (1st Galician) is responsible for the mass murder of innocent civilians with a level of brutality and malice that is incomprehensible to a sane person.
    Some are twisting themselves into knots, justifying their support for this unit based on their bigotry or politics, to maintain a narrative, Russia bad, Ukraine good.
    This guy volunteered for this unit. The unit saw more action killing civilians and roaming rear areas terrorizing the local rural regions in search of partisans, than actually fighting the Red Army. It was their specialty.

  38. Didn’t True Dough The First wear a NotZee helmet while riding his motorcycle around Montreal back in the day?

  39. My Dad was a WW2 veteran who spent 2 years in a German prison camp after his plane was shot down over Germany. He talked about how every morning the first task was clearing up the dead bodies from those fellow prisoners who hadn’t made it through the night.
    He saw unspeakable horrors that haunted him for the rest of his life.
    Still, he didn’t blame the German people individually for the horrors he witnessed. It was the German government supported by the “industrialists” , financed by the bankers and using the media as it’s propaganda arm. Together they created hatred towards those who opposed them and used centuries old grievances between groups (such as the Ukrainian/Russian one mentioned by others here) to encourage further death and destruction.
    Today, we see the same scenes replayed again, demonizing and promoting hatred of one against another to fan the flames of war.
    Tens of millions of Russians, Poles, Ukranians, Germans, Western Europeans and ethnic minorities were slaughtered indiscriminately by both sides, many innocent civilians, women and children.
    There was a time when the world said “never again”. In fact, the E.U. stated from its inception that it’s purpose was to prevent just such a tragedy from ever occurring again.
    Now many of these same politicians are pushing for more war, more killing and suffering, and do everything in their power to prevent any peace talks.
    Current estimates are that Ukraine has lost an entire generation of young men already. Yet those who continue to push war are all comfy in their posh mansions and yachts, surrounded by personal guards and attending state dinners to congratulate themselves on what a wonderful job they are doing.
    They all get richer with each death they force on those with no voice. Fear, pain, hatred, division and death are their commodity.
    And yet here we are, arguing over which ‘side’ is worse!
    They play every generation the same tune and many are suckers enough to dance every time they start up the organ grinder again.
    Just more gold for them and suffering and death for the rest of us.
    Only when enough of us realize that it’s the elites against the regular people that causes war, death and destruction can we have a chance at actual real peace and prosperity.
    Stop allowing the politicians, their handlers and mouthpieces to tell you who to hate. They only do it to keep us bickering with each other while they buy another mansion/yacht/private jet.
    I don’t hate all Germans living today because of what they did to my father.
    We can’t continue to relive old grievances from the past and expect anything but a repeat of it.

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