Lest we forget, Bill Akeman and Ross Stevens were Enablers up til now. Anyone aware of them speaking out against the obnoxious regimes implementing flagrant discrimination ?and blatant censorship?
Not all Liberals/NDPers hate the Jews. But all Jew haters are Liberal/NDP.
Interesting, that … hmm..
TonyMo
As my friend, a liberal Jew, said, only about 90%.
As wretchardthcat says. These people have no idea how they are perceived outside their bubble.
They and their enablers can’t conceive that others may have alternative perceptions based on their experiences.
LOL, saw a very funny clip on YouTube called (something like) “How motorcyclists think other people perceive them”. I laughed because having been a long time rider of quiet machines I was always annoyed by Harley riders.
As V.O.W.G. said in an earlier thread:
“….brought to you by insane communists.”
The anti Semitic trope does not apply in this case as the Palestinians are just as Semitic as the Jews. Semitic meaning descendent of Shem. One of the sons of Noah. The entire middle east is Semitica just as Europe is descended from Japheth and the Africans from Ham. That means that the Zionist theme “From the River to the Sea” is also anti Semitic. Don’t forget the Palestinians borrowed that phrase from the zionists who remain determined to commit genocide to get rid of the native population aka Palestinians. Some people really need an education on what zionism is all about and why the zionists had no trouble with the Nazis. (basically they are one and the same thing with different targets. What I find interesting is the number of Jews Orthodox practicing Jews not the show Jew like Bibi actually oppose Israel and its stance on genocide. Sadly they get shouted down with expressions of self hating Jews etc. Here is just one example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fo7lRB-eTI
Joke
There are 3 signals that would exist if “Noah” was an actual thing, those signals do NOT exist, so Noah is Bullshit, fabricated by the RCC. There are biblical historians and theologians who now question whether what is written in today’s bible is the same as written in the original text. I would think that the RCC has not and will not release all the original books, as it would expose that the released ones have been altered.
So you don’t know a thing about history or geography but are quite all right with one nation committing genocide against another. That says a lot about you and your ilk. Not nice people at all. Humans should be protected from being punished for the capital crime of being native to a region of the world. Palestinians are native to the region. They have lived there since before the Jewish temple collapsed 2000 years ago. Israel is the occupying nation in contravention of international and Israeli law. Not sure why people are that unaware of what is going on there. Shake my head and walk away. I guess Nazis want to Nazi. Sadly there are thousands of innocent children dying because nazis believe that “Israel Good”. So very very very sad.
You are correct. But I think we’re not allowed to be correct here on this topic. So I keep my mouth shut and let the other commenters here advocate for the annihilation of an ethnic group.
Sadly you are correct. Responses like you often see on these kinds of threads are why the right is so often associated with Nazism. I am very right wing but I am also very against all forms of Nazism regardless of who is perpetuating the genocide. I supported the
Jews until I learned the truth of what is actually happening in what was formerly Palestine. Listen to a Jewish settler and you will hear the most vile nazi expressions you have ever heard. This isn’t a scrap over a bit of land. The Jewish settlers have plans of taking over Jordan, Lebanon, Huge chunks of Iraq (up to Iran) and 50% of Saudi Arabia and the north of Egypt. up to the Nile.
I’ve been trying to figure out the current mentality myself, since it seemed at first alot like the hysteria around COVID, when dissenting opinions were not permitted (as in, could not even have a discussion), and then Ukraine, but people have come around on both those issues. This seems different. I think a large part of it is the evangelical line of thinking where the Jews are still God’s chosen people, and further to that, that present day Israel is a re-manifestation of old testament Judea. The Bible is quite clear in the NT on who God’s people are, and it’s not a particular ethnic group. In any case, I would say I support no side in this, but I do understand where the pali’s are coming from. And, with my basic understanding of Zionism, I also understand where the Israelis are coming from. The future of Zionism has no room for a Palestinian state. It won’t end well, even if Israel “wins.”
You are absolutely correct. Dispensationalism is a very common Christian heresy taught in many protestant seminaries in North America. It was started by a scam artist named Cyrus Schofield. You can google him and find out what kind of a crook he truly was. However his writing was discovered and promoted by a rich Jewish fellow from New York who realized how valuable such a teaching would be to the creation of zionist Israel. Funnily enough the Jews living in Palestine at the time did not accept zionism. Orthodox Jews do not accept zionism. I am a Christian and as such I reject zionism as well. It is a heresy and like so many heresies is resulting in mass deaths and generational hatreds. Such a sad situation and so sad that we have so many knee jerk pro Israel nutbars that have no idea what kind of nazi hatreds Israeli settlers actually believe.
You are entirely wrong. Israel is entirely within the law…in fact, the entire region is under the law of war given that the Arab world declared war against Israel the minute it was created….a declaration that stands to this day. Shake you head all you want….it sounds like a mustard seed rattling around in a box car.
Completely wrong on your part. Israel’s settlements are illegal by international law and Israeli law. Sadly neither law is enforced. Maybe if you stopped relying on American/Israeli media (but I repeat myself)
Yawn. NO-one believes you Joey.
IDF is sure making a mess of hamas.
PS. Seen the video of hamas stealing food from the civilians.
I suspect Joe the Albertan is actually Mohammed the Where Am I.
“I suspect Joe the Albertan is actually Mohammed the Where Am I.”
He certainly doesn’t seem to understand that the territory Israel currently holds (and more) was actually the Jewish homeland 3000 YEARS AGO. The fact that they were invaded and forced to flee the area a few times over the centuries doesn’t make it any less theirs.
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The word “Palestine” is not Arab or Middle Eastern in origin. It dates back 1,900 years and is derived from a people who were not native to the region — the Philistines, a people from the Aegean Sea who were closely related to the ancient Greeks. They lived on the coast of what is now the Gaza Strip and Israel, but had disappeared by the 6th century BCE.
The name associated with them, however, did not die out. The Romans, in a fit of spite, reapplied the term “Palestine” to the Land of Israel centuries later, after they defeated a Judean uprising in 135 CE.
In effect, the Romans sought to erase the association between the Land of Israel and the Jewish people.
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It’s Jewish land, all of it…and you can’t ‘occupy’ your own land. Nothing about the West Bank settlements is illegal.
When Jordan illegally seized the West Bank, then lost it after stupidly attacking Israel, Israel’s big mistake was not driving the Arab invaders completely out of their territory in the same way that roughly one million Jews were driven out of the neighboring Arab nations in 1948 (leaving their property and possessions behind) when modern Israel was first created in 1948. The original Arab residents who stayed when the Arab nations asked them to leave so they could kill the Jews more efficiently (they number about 160,000 now) are now legitimate, prosperous citizens of Israel with exactly the same rights and freedoms as any Jew (they are even in government)….so much for ‘Israeli Apartheid’.
There’s more, much more, but the Jew-haters just don’t want to hear the truth…they prefer the comforting LIES they have always been told, and they will blindly parrot those same lies whenever possible.
Yep. Thanks for brining nuance. Don’t know about the no trouble with the Nazis bit but there is irony in the evolution of the country formerly called Palestine. I can not support either side. This most recent conflagration is most certainly about BRICs, hedgemonical monetary practices, who holds power and trade routes. In short who rules the world.
What I find strange and different is the willingness of liberals to speak their minds. When has that happened since Meta and Obumbles? The pattern has been- something happens, like coordinated sexual assaults in Germany over the holiday by diversity and no liberal says a thing until NYT, Wapo, NBC etc tells them what to think a day later. Then those exact words come out of their mouths. That Just Broke. Even liberals are getting canceled and it’s not stopping. That is very, very interesting. I have strong opinions on non involvement of our military with such untrustworthy leadership on IMO all sides. This tectonic shift in the power structure is IMO a good sign.
Where is a map when you need one.. Who is to say that the distance traveled from the river to the sea is the shortest route.. I suspect these religious nutcases plan on going all the way around the planet..
I refuse to repeat the words put into my mouth?.. How reassuring that this line exists in this day and age even if it is a democratic open wound.. Again, putting your finger on the motivation and even the definition of the silence is useless without a map..
I think it’s best to just plant some trees and cook up a lead tax.. You know, pretend to do something beyond playing word games..
So you don’t know a thing about history or geography but are quite all right with one nation committing genocide against another. That says a lot about you and your ilk. Not nice people at all. Humans should be protected from being punished for the capital crime of being native to a region of the world. Palestinians are native to the region. They have lived there since before the Jewish temple collapsed 2000 years ago. Israel is the occupying nation in contravention of international and Israeli law. Not sure why people are that unaware of what is going on there. Shake my head and walk away. I guess Nazis want to Nazi. Sadly there are thousands of innocent children dying because nazis believe that “Israel Good”. So very very very sad.
Stated by an “Ignorant idiot”.
Hey Achmed the Arab, FOAD, you historical illiterate. There is no such thing as a Palestinian and the Jews were in the region before your people.
Joe. There is no such thing as “native to the region”. Someone living in Canada should understand that concept. Israel and Palestine both have the right to exist. But no one has the right to behead children, rape women, burn people alive and take hostages. The people who did that, and yes the people around them, are paying a heavy price, as they should.
The Lord of Hosts is the One God.
The Jews are His Chosen People.
The Lord is finally avenging the blood of the Six Million. Both the Arabs and the bloodthirsty Jew-haters of Little Russia will be scattered among the nations by the next Purim.
And there is nothing you can do about that, Joe, but pray whatever idol or false prophet you swear by that you don’t live to see the coming of the Messiah, when the enemies of Israel will finally be doomed. Including you.
Therefore there is no longer Jew nor Gentile nor Freeman nor slave nor male nor female for all are one in Christ Jesus. Those who are the descendents of Abraham are those who have faith not those of a certain genealogy. The whole idea of a chosen people and a chosen place is an anathema to Christianity. Sad that you have such an outdated view of humanity and of God.
Look up the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini. A good friend of Hitler. And those innocent children that are dying are the result of Hamas (cowards, like you) hiding behind them. A war crime, by the way.
So far all the screaming you do and the BS you post. Sure proves you have little knowledge of history.
What will you do when hamas is gone.
Lefties and Arabs on the same side is ludicrous.
It’s like bunnies trying to make friends with hyenas because of lions.
The looming and inevitable cull of the Left will be all the better if several million jihadis go with them.
I’d say get rid of the leftists and seeing off the jihadis will be a breeze.
I don’t believe that the Sask NDP MLA’s are anti-semetic. I have watched them in action and they are basically just stupid. It’s as simple as that. If you were to ask each and every one of that thankfully small group two simple questions I’m sure you would receive nothing but blank stares from the majority. 1. What river is being referred to? 2. What sea is being referred to?
They have simply latched onto a catchy slogan in an effort to maintain the appearance of being progressive and have no idea what the words refer to.
I tend to agree. The NDP may not be anti-Semitic pre se but they have always been purveyors of hatred as their policies are premised on the politics of envy, resentment, and hatred. When I was a university student, I used to take David Lewis’ speeches and change a few words like “American” or “capitalist” to “Jew” or “foreigner” and give them to people without telling them who wrote or said it and ask who was the author and they all guessed Hitler. Their economic policies are a blend of fascism (Mussolini’s definition) and socialism with blurred lines differentiating them. In terms of a two dimensional matrix of economic and civil liberties, fascism and socialism both flank communism. The only “ism” nowhere near (opposite) these three is libertarianism. The CPC, LPC, NDP, Greens, and Bloc are all overlapping policy blobs between those “isms” .
Considering that Hamas wants to gang rape and murder _everyone_ between the river and the sea, jew and non-jew alike, is it really anti-semitic?
I’ll leave the question of the government’s hands off approach towards politicians supporting recognized pedophilic terrorist organizations for another post.
Just proves that Communists and Nazis are the same death cult.
I was about to to write something Identical Scar.
100% Correct.
And for the Record.
NDP is 100% Communist.
…& they were the worst Covid NAZI’s
One group belonged to the “international”, the other was “nationalist”, both are from the poisoned tree of marxism.
Roger Kimball on Instapundit does an exceptional summary.
https://instapundit.com/621268/
Lest we forget, Bill Akeman and Ross Stevens were Enablers up til now. Anyone aware of them speaking out against the obnoxious regimes implementing flagrant discrimination ?and blatant censorship?
Not all Liberals/NDPers hate the Jews. But all Jew haters are Liberal/NDP.
Interesting, that … hmm..
TonyMo
As my friend, a liberal Jew, said, only about 90%.
As wretchardthcat says. These people have no idea how they are perceived outside their bubble.
They and their enablers can’t conceive that others may have alternative perceptions based on their experiences.
LOL, saw a very funny clip on YouTube called (something like) “How motorcyclists think other people perceive them”. I laughed because having been a long time rider of quiet machines I was always annoyed by Harley riders.
As V.O.W.G. said in an earlier thread:
“….brought to you by insane communists.”
The anti Semitic trope does not apply in this case as the Palestinians are just as Semitic as the Jews. Semitic meaning descendent of Shem. One of the sons of Noah. The entire middle east is Semitica just as Europe is descended from Japheth and the Africans from Ham. That means that the Zionist theme “From the River to the Sea” is also anti Semitic. Don’t forget the Palestinians borrowed that phrase from the zionists who remain determined to commit genocide to get rid of the native population aka Palestinians. Some people really need an education on what zionism is all about and why the zionists had no trouble with the Nazis. (basically they are one and the same thing with different targets. What I find interesting is the number of Jews Orthodox practicing Jews not the show Jew like Bibi actually oppose Israel and its stance on genocide. Sadly they get shouted down with expressions of self hating Jews etc. Here is just one example. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fo7lRB-eTI
Joke
There are 3 signals that would exist if “Noah” was an actual thing, those signals do NOT exist, so Noah is Bullshit, fabricated by the RCC. There are biblical historians and theologians who now question whether what is written in today’s bible is the same as written in the original text. I would think that the RCC has not and will not release all the original books, as it would expose that the released ones have been altered.
So you don’t know a thing about history or geography but are quite all right with one nation committing genocide against another. That says a lot about you and your ilk. Not nice people at all. Humans should be protected from being punished for the capital crime of being native to a region of the world. Palestinians are native to the region. They have lived there since before the Jewish temple collapsed 2000 years ago. Israel is the occupying nation in contravention of international and Israeli law. Not sure why people are that unaware of what is going on there. Shake my head and walk away. I guess Nazis want to Nazi. Sadly there are thousands of innocent children dying because nazis believe that “Israel Good”. So very very very sad.
You are correct. But I think we’re not allowed to be correct here on this topic. So I keep my mouth shut and let the other commenters here advocate for the annihilation of an ethnic group.
Sadly you are correct. Responses like you often see on these kinds of threads are why the right is so often associated with Nazism. I am very right wing but I am also very against all forms of Nazism regardless of who is perpetuating the genocide. I supported the
Jews until I learned the truth of what is actually happening in what was formerly Palestine. Listen to a Jewish settler and you will hear the most vile nazi expressions you have ever heard. This isn’t a scrap over a bit of land. The Jewish settlers have plans of taking over Jordan, Lebanon, Huge chunks of Iraq (up to Iran) and 50% of Saudi Arabia and the north of Egypt. up to the Nile.
I’ve been trying to figure out the current mentality myself, since it seemed at first alot like the hysteria around COVID, when dissenting opinions were not permitted (as in, could not even have a discussion), and then Ukraine, but people have come around on both those issues. This seems different. I think a large part of it is the evangelical line of thinking where the Jews are still God’s chosen people, and further to that, that present day Israel is a re-manifestation of old testament Judea. The Bible is quite clear in the NT on who God’s people are, and it’s not a particular ethnic group. In any case, I would say I support no side in this, but I do understand where the pali’s are coming from. And, with my basic understanding of Zionism, I also understand where the Israelis are coming from. The future of Zionism has no room for a Palestinian state. It won’t end well, even if Israel “wins.”
You are absolutely correct. Dispensationalism is a very common Christian heresy taught in many protestant seminaries in North America. It was started by a scam artist named Cyrus Schofield. You can google him and find out what kind of a crook he truly was. However his writing was discovered and promoted by a rich Jewish fellow from New York who realized how valuable such a teaching would be to the creation of zionist Israel. Funnily enough the Jews living in Palestine at the time did not accept zionism. Orthodox Jews do not accept zionism. I am a Christian and as such I reject zionism as well. It is a heresy and like so many heresies is resulting in mass deaths and generational hatreds. Such a sad situation and so sad that we have so many knee jerk pro Israel nutbars that have no idea what kind of nazi hatreds Israeli settlers actually believe.
You are entirely wrong. Israel is entirely within the law…in fact, the entire region is under the law of war given that the Arab world declared war against Israel the minute it was created….a declaration that stands to this day. Shake you head all you want….it sounds like a mustard seed rattling around in a box car.
Completely wrong on your part. Israel’s settlements are illegal by international law and Israeli law. Sadly neither law is enforced. Maybe if you stopped relying on American/Israeli media (but I repeat myself)
Yawn. NO-one believes you Joey.
IDF is sure making a mess of hamas.
PS. Seen the video of hamas stealing food from the civilians.
I suspect Joe the Albertan is actually Mohammed the Where Am I.
“I suspect Joe the Albertan is actually Mohammed the Where Am I.”
He certainly doesn’t seem to understand that the territory Israel currently holds (and more) was actually the Jewish homeland 3000 YEARS AGO. The fact that they were invaded and forced to flee the area a few times over the centuries doesn’t make it any less theirs.
—————————————–
The word “Palestine” is not Arab or Middle Eastern in origin. It dates back 1,900 years and is derived from a people who were not native to the region — the Philistines, a people from the Aegean Sea who were closely related to the ancient Greeks. They lived on the coast of what is now the Gaza Strip and Israel, but had disappeared by the 6th century BCE.
The name associated with them, however, did not die out. The Romans, in a fit of spite, reapplied the term “Palestine” to the Land of Israel centuries later, after they defeated a Judean uprising in 135 CE.
In effect, the Romans sought to erase the association between the Land of Israel and the Jewish people.
——————————————–
It’s Jewish land, all of it…and you can’t ‘occupy’ your own land. Nothing about the West Bank settlements is illegal.
When Jordan illegally seized the West Bank, then lost it after stupidly attacking Israel, Israel’s big mistake was not driving the Arab invaders completely out of their territory in the same way that roughly one million Jews were driven out of the neighboring Arab nations in 1948 (leaving their property and possessions behind) when modern Israel was first created in 1948. The original Arab residents who stayed when the Arab nations asked them to leave so they could kill the Jews more efficiently (they number about 160,000 now) are now legitimate, prosperous citizens of Israel with exactly the same rights and freedoms as any Jew (they are even in government)….so much for ‘Israeli Apartheid’.
There’s more, much more, but the Jew-haters just don’t want to hear the truth…they prefer the comforting LIES they have always been told, and they will blindly parrot those same lies whenever possible.
Yep. Thanks for brining nuance. Don’t know about the no trouble with the Nazis bit but there is irony in the evolution of the country formerly called Palestine. I can not support either side. This most recent conflagration is most certainly about BRICs, hedgemonical monetary practices, who holds power and trade routes. In short who rules the world.
What I find strange and different is the willingness of liberals to speak their minds. When has that happened since Meta and Obumbles? The pattern has been- something happens, like coordinated sexual assaults in Germany over the holiday by diversity and no liberal says a thing until NYT, Wapo, NBC etc tells them what to think a day later. Then those exact words come out of their mouths. That Just Broke. Even liberals are getting canceled and it’s not stopping. That is very, very interesting. I have strong opinions on non involvement of our military with such untrustworthy leadership on IMO all sides. This tectonic shift in the power structure is IMO a good sign.
Where is a map when you need one.. Who is to say that the distance traveled from the river to the sea is the shortest route.. I suspect these religious nutcases plan on going all the way around the planet..
I refuse to repeat the words put into my mouth?.. How reassuring that this line exists in this day and age even if it is a democratic open wound.. Again, putting your finger on the motivation and even the definition of the silence is useless without a map..
I think it’s best to just plant some trees and cook up a lead tax.. You know, pretend to do something beyond playing word games..
So you don’t know a thing about history or geography but are quite all right with one nation committing genocide against another. That says a lot about you and your ilk. Not nice people at all. Humans should be protected from being punished for the capital crime of being native to a region of the world. Palestinians are native to the region. They have lived there since before the Jewish temple collapsed 2000 years ago. Israel is the occupying nation in contravention of international and Israeli law. Not sure why people are that unaware of what is going on there. Shake my head and walk away. I guess Nazis want to Nazi. Sadly there are thousands of innocent children dying because nazis believe that “Israel Good”. So very very very sad.
Stated by an “Ignorant idiot”.
Hey Achmed the Arab, FOAD, you historical illiterate. There is no such thing as a Palestinian and the Jews were in the region before your people.
Joe. There is no such thing as “native to the region”. Someone living in Canada should understand that concept. Israel and Palestine both have the right to exist. But no one has the right to behead children, rape women, burn people alive and take hostages. The people who did that, and yes the people around them, are paying a heavy price, as they should.
The Lord of Hosts is the One God.
The Jews are His Chosen People.
The Lord is finally avenging the blood of the Six Million. Both the Arabs and the bloodthirsty Jew-haters of Little Russia will be scattered among the nations by the next Purim.
And there is nothing you can do about that, Joe, but pray whatever idol or false prophet you swear by that you don’t live to see the coming of the Messiah, when the enemies of Israel will finally be doomed. Including you.
Therefore there is no longer Jew nor Gentile nor Freeman nor slave nor male nor female for all are one in Christ Jesus. Those who are the descendents of Abraham are those who have faith not those of a certain genealogy. The whole idea of a chosen people and a chosen place is an anathema to Christianity. Sad that you have such an outdated view of humanity and of God.
Look up the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini. A good friend of Hitler. And those innocent children that are dying are the result of Hamas (cowards, like you) hiding behind them. A war crime, by the way.
So far all the screaming you do and the BS you post. Sure proves you have little knowledge of history.
What will you do when hamas is gone.
Lefties and Arabs on the same side is ludicrous.
It’s like bunnies trying to make friends with hyenas because of lions.
The looming and inevitable cull of the Left will be all the better if several million jihadis go with them.
I’d say get rid of the leftists and seeing off the jihadis will be a breeze.
I don’t believe that the Sask NDP MLA’s are anti-semetic. I have watched them in action and they are basically just stupid. It’s as simple as that. If you were to ask each and every one of that thankfully small group two simple questions I’m sure you would receive nothing but blank stares from the majority. 1. What river is being referred to? 2. What sea is being referred to?
They have simply latched onto a catchy slogan in an effort to maintain the appearance of being progressive and have no idea what the words refer to.
I tend to agree. The NDP may not be anti-Semitic pre se but they have always been purveyors of hatred as their policies are premised on the politics of envy, resentment, and hatred. When I was a university student, I used to take David Lewis’ speeches and change a few words like “American” or “capitalist” to “Jew” or “foreigner” and give them to people without telling them who wrote or said it and ask who was the author and they all guessed Hitler. Their economic policies are a blend of fascism (Mussolini’s definition) and socialism with blurred lines differentiating them. In terms of a two dimensional matrix of economic and civil liberties, fascism and socialism both flank communism. The only “ism” nowhere near (opposite) these three is libertarianism. The CPC, LPC, NDP, Greens, and Bloc are all overlapping policy blobs between those “isms” .
Considering that Hamas wants to gang rape and murder _everyone_ between the river and the sea, jew and non-jew alike, is it really anti-semitic?
I’ll leave the question of the government’s hands off approach towards politicians supporting recognized pedophilic terrorist organizations for another post.