So long, spinny things in front of mountains!

Wind turbines won’t be allowed near mountains anymore. And when these reach end of life, those sites won’t be rebuilt with new, larger ones, if these rules stick.

Don’t block our mountains or mess with good farmland: #Alberta releases renewable power rules. And reclamation is going to be paid up front. This story is the full meat, potatoes, gravy and carrots on Wednesday’s wind and solar announcement.

And what’s the pool at for Trudeau resigning today? It’s 40 years to the day since daddy took his “walk in the snow.”

42 Replies to “So long, spinny things in front of mountains!”

  1. In my Opinion a long walk on a very deep frozen lake with very very thin ICE would be appropriate, thank you very much!!!
    Oh and take Christia, Steve, & Jagee with you!!

  2. However much I disagreed with Pierre Elliot Trudeau, I did admire his ready wit, ability to debate, and obvious extremely high intelligence. Trudeau Jr. is not the son of PET. Trudeau Jr. has no ability to do the self reflection thing. Trudeau Jr. will hang on to power until he is forced out or he dies and he passes his Emperor status to one of his sons.

    1. Or Until someone from JTF2 or kin takes this POS out from afar.
      Make Canada’s day.

      Oh is that hate speech..??
      No, it’s simply that, were it to occur, I wouldn’t shed a tear.
      I don’t believe I am alone in said sentiment.

    2. Really? I haven’t seen this lavish praise since the days of the PET lovefest of the 60’s.

      I guess I missed the demonstration of his “extreme high intelligence.”

    3. I agree, while PET’s policies were bad for the country, the man himself was highly intelligent, super-cool and did not suffer fools gladly.

      His son, as Jordan Peterson says, has the mind of a teenage girl. He IS a fool. And as he said, he’s a wannabe dictator. He won’t quit, he’s working on ways to subvert democracy in order to cling to power. He took a lesson from the US “election” that ousted Trump, and he’s working on the Canadian version.

      1. Justin got Mad Maggie’s “party with no panties on” brain = bad. Think of Young Frankenstein and the Abby Normal brain!!
        Fortunately for sock boy he also hot Mad Maggies hair and looks so it wasn’t totally a losing deal 😉

    4. Despite PP’s revelations earlier today, yes, I agree. The turd will go on. ( I wanted to make a bowel movement reference here, but I couldn’t come up with any.)

  3. “Steven Guilbeault @s_guilbeault
    1/3 Renewable energy companies expect to be treated fairly.
    By placing overkill conditions on new renewable energy, it has the same effect as a moratorium by burying projects in red tape.”

    that’s laughable coming from the anti-industrialist Guilbeault.

    Of course, the government didn’t go far enough, and require that the “renewables” be on the hook for the utilities being forced to pay for other power, when the “renewables” aren’t producing power.

    1. Guilbeault, like most progressive authoritarians, didn’t think that conservatives would learn to use the *kill by constantly changing regulations and unpredictable government reviews* playbook against environmentalist’s preferred energy sources. Turnabout is fair play.

        1. Rules for Radicals

          1 “Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.”

          2 “Never go outside the expertise of your people.”

          3 “Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy.”

          4 “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

          5 “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. There is no defense. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.”

          6 “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”

          7 “A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.”

          8 “Keep the pressure on.”

          9 “The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.”

          10 “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.”

          11 “If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside; this is based on the principle that every positive has its negative.”

          12 “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”

          13 “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”

  4. The damage has been done. Where do the turbines that are already there go? It’s going to cost a fortune in the long run to dismantle and dispose of them.

    1. Take them down, and ship them to Edmonton. They can put them up in parks and school yards in Edmonton.

      1. No, I think the best place would be Parliament Hill…lots of space there.

        That they should be disconnected, is a no brainer.
        Followed immediately with the re-vitalising re-opening of our Coal Industry.

        1. Love it! One gigantic spiny thing right at the eternal flame surrounded by a sea of solar panels. An enduring symbol and reminder of the stupidity of our current corrupt elites and the gutless, nutless and spineless MPs supporting them.

    2. Maybe governments can put a lien on the solar and wind companies assets to pay for site cleanup and land rehabilitation.

      1. Maybe the banks will stop financing these operations….? Like many of them do to the O&G sector. Citing their high environmental conscience.

        1. Over the last year or so, financial companies have been backing away from ESG financing and DEI policies. I think we’re near the last chapter of the wind and solar fantasy fiction book.

  5. I think that every solar panel installation, and every single wind mill must:
    – complete a comprehensive environmental impact assessment. This to include effects of mining the materials, manufacturing the equipment, transporting the equipment, effects of installation and operating, and disposal.
    – full First Nation consultation. To be conducted before and after the comprehensive environmental impact assessment.
    – full public consultation before and after the environmental report.

      1. Steakman. Agreed.

        But there’s two more steps before yours.

        1. You send the windmill or solar panel proposal back saying “Submission incomplete. You must start over at square one.”

        2. Once you get the new submission, you take 4 years to review it. Then you reject it saying, “Supplied data is out of date. Conditions have changed. You must start over”

  6. In an insanely over regulated world, this is another layer of government control. The big difference is the direction they are moving. Finally putting roadblocks in front of unicorn development that proven and responsible energy has had to fight for years. A good start, in my opinion

  7. Making wind and solar match grid demand at their expense would eliminate them. The Spawn has no self-awareness nor ability to accept that his ignorance is only exceeded by his arrogance (he’s his father’s son) and therefore will hang on as long as Singh still clings to the smell of his power or he is forced to call an election.

    1. Yeah, drop all subsidies and let the projects earn back every dollar. Duty to shareholders, and whatnot.

  8. The future next step should be to round up all the principals that are responsible for these wind creatures and put them on trial for crimes against humanity . I would further recommend that Jordan Peterson and Mark Styne be the arbiters of said trial .

  9. Make the regs as difficult as the feds do for O&G projects. Extend the consequences upstream and downstream. If stuff is made in China with slave labour… sorry it doesn’t pass muster. Tell Steven Giblets to go pound sand.

  10. I’m a huge fan of our Premier Smith, but the claim 2,700 MW of new gas-fired baseload is misleading. Cascade is 900 and the final conversion of the Genesee coal plants (2 turbines listed as coal, 1 as dual fuel as of today) might be 1200, but the 1200 is not new, just changed from coal to gas. As for where the rest of the gas-fired “new” generation is coming from (2,700 – 900 -1200 = 600 MW? of what?) I don’t know where this going to come from. I’ll look into this but she’s going to get called out on this.

    1. IMO, Saskatchewan and Alberta need to go full steam aheas on combined cycle natgas plants. I like nuclear power but I have this sneaking suspicion that the Trudeau federal government will string provinces and nuclear power companies along for years and years, then kibosh the builds at the last stage. Or, use environmental activist groups to litigate and paid protestors to delay everything until the nuclear power companies walk away.

      Natgas is the safer bet for reliable, affordable electricity baseload and backup production at this time.

      1. I’d still like to see some coal gasification combined cycle plants built, because you can store coal on site, you can’t really do the same for natgas.

        1. Coal gasification would probably be used after regular natural gas deposits are used up. It’s interesting technology but quite a bit more expensive because of process inputs to gasify the coal. One of my plant chemists thought it was more feasible than carbon capture and sequestration.

          Alberta and Saskatchewan have lots of traditional natural gas deposits:

          “Biogenic gas is produced at shallow depths by microbial activity. The most prolific biogenic gas deposit in Western Canada is the Southeast Alberta Gas Field (SAGF), which is located in southeastern Alberta and southwestern Saskatchewan in the Western Canada Sedimentary Basin and holds an estimated 1.42×10^12 m3 of recoverable gas.”

    2. I looked up Alberta power projects in the pipeline. There’s the 1338MW conversion of Genesee (was about 1266MW on coal) and a new combined cycle carbon capture plant NE of Edmonton (Greenlight Electricity Center) of 1400 which appears to be at the conceptual stage at this point. So Premier Smith is not so accurate about “future” baseload. You will have a net gain of about 70MW at Genesee, plus 1400 new MW at Kineticor Sturgeon County (maybe in 2028) and if you stretch the point add in the 450 MW of Cascade (No. 2 unit still not commissioned), so 1,900 future baseload, not 2,700 as she implied. Really the number is 1,400 not 2,700 and who knows if spending $4.5B on a plant that will be really expensive to run because of future gas prices and carbon capture costs, will ever get built.

    3. Cascade has applied for a 1450 MW plant by Redwater and the repowering of Genesee 1 & 2 will be around 765 each when complete. Genesee 3 is not being rebuilt as it is almost new. It will remain 466MW.

      1. “Cascade has applied for a 1450 MW plant by Redwater”

        Are you sure that’s not the 1400 MW carbon capture combined cycle plant near the same location I talk about above? There’s definitely not 2 1400 MW plants in Sturgeon County in the current Alberta major projects database. The Genesee conversion is stated as 1338 MW “when completed” in the database listing. Capital Power claims the Genesee repower will (might?) be a 95% carbon capture facility on their website, so the actual net output of the facility after power consumed for carbon capture is the real number for; I don’t think it will be the number you are using (765*2 = 1530 MW).

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