What’s up with renaming an airport to something that sounds like Yosemite Sam swearing or the ramblings of the Swedish Chef? Are the linguists that come up with these names dyslexic?
“The renaming of Sandspit Airport to K’il Kun Xidgwangs Daanaay is a significant step in the collaboration between Canada and the Haida Nation,” said President of the Council of the Haida Nation Gaagwiis (Jason Alsop) in a news release for the announcement.
“Engaging in initiatives like this fosters trust and respect, critical elements in renewing the collective vision of Canada as a nation that includes all of us.”
I want a new country (to coin a phrase)
Couldn’t they come up with a name short enough to at least fit on a map?
On second thought, I think they are trolling the white man. Let’s suggest a name that is so long and ridiculous that nobody can say it. But whitey falls for the gag over and over again.
Might as well have named it in arabic script. The natives are off their rocker.
Reminds me of the nonsense going on in New Zealand. Its contagious.
They renamed Mt Doug park to P’kols, which means…………something.
They want to change the name of Powell River on the sunchine coast a former milltown, now a sleepy little community of………..tourism? natives? gubbermint? Anyways, the proposed name is ‘qathet’. Yup a real winner.
This nonsense is in its starting stages. The end game is to turn BC into a giant park, where every piece of land outside of cities is Injun land. Nothing will happen there without Injun approval, and Injun VIG being paid.
“This nonsense is in its starting stages. The end game is to turn BC into a giant park, where every piece of land outside of cities is Injun land. Nothing will happen there without Injun approval, and Injun VIG being paid.”
As far back as 30 years ago the natives in BC were claiming 130% of the province. Gordon Campbell started all this crap.
Actually, it was Mike Harcourt who “started it all” when he intentionally lost the appeal of the ruling of BC Chief Justice McEachern who dismissed all land claims in BC as being not necessary to resolve as the Indians had essentially de Facto surrendered their title ( read “Our Home or Native Land” by Mel Smith). Campbell came to office 10 years later and jumped on the negotiation bandwagon after ignoring the polling of BC residents. He was opposition leader through two terms of the NDP before he became Premier which was enough to drive anyone to drink and he did.
Thanks, John. I forgot about the Harcourt thing (it was a long time ago)…
Seems to me some decades back approximately 110% of BC was under Indigenous claim.
At about the same time, some Lower Mainland Indigents were claiming some upper scale homes whose leases were up. No negotiations. (Not unusual, I suppose but usually there is an amicable agreement.) And at least one of the residents burned their home down. A controlled fire to be sure but a fire nevertheless.
This same kind of crap is happening in NB as well. Pisses me off especially when I have no idea how to pronounce the alien words. Plus, the wigwamers laid claim to almost half of NB, FFS!!
Well, the news didn’t include information on how ‘K’il Kun Xidgwangs Daanaay’ is pronounced, but I’d assume [kill koon hidguangs darnigh] is good enough. English spelling is not very good is marking how other languages are pronounced, and it is used nevertheless, causing things said as if they’re written English. I blame the Francs, who learned to write before they could decide how to talk. But the IPA is about as hard as Latin.
It crosses my mind making it unpronounceable is their goal in the first place. It’s a punishment.
I remember the front page of The Province newspaper with a map showing the overlapping claims, back then. My “aboriginal” employee exclaimed in disgust one morning at coffee, “why don’t the wagon burners just get jobs.” We were all a little taken aback, but we knew he say through the grievance industry.
I live in area B of the regional district of Powell River, now officially called qthet ,by those who comply. All of the decisions leading to this name change were made behind closed doors. Without public input. Except the area b and c public information meetings where the regional chair displaced the aria director as chairman of that meeting and proceeded to cut short anyone who spoke against the name change while giving all the time they wanted to his supporters whom he had brought into the area b and c meetings from area a, his constituency. When the items necessary to move forward with the name change were brought to regional board for a vote our area representative tried to point out that 80% of residents were opposed, he was prevented from speaking by an anti democratic chair who, routinely broke the law. Our rep. was then attacked as a racist of course and largely prevented from representing us, his constituents. So the Regional District name change is law.
They are at this point proposing a name change without a proposed name for the town. Because Israel Powell racist!!!
Maybe the Haida should use their own written language to identify it on signs’ etc – they what? Didn’t they?
Dan, we are the one’s who are off our rocker. That we allow this foolishness shows me just how foolish we have become. Stop it, just say no.
My nephew’s name is Wiinsakun-deh. He was born during a tornado.
How old is little Windsockin-theair?
He aint so little no more. And he’s old enough to be proud of his name.
Oh, it’s not a bad name at all. It’s exotic enough to be interesting, but not too complicated to be pronounceable. And if you’re born on a tornado day, it’s rather cool that your name sounds like “windsock in the air”. Do you what the name actually means?
These name changes are a disgrace.
The BC Chinese will take care of it all in decades to come.
Renaming technologically sophisticated infrastructure to honour a stone-age culture seems appropriate.
^^^ BINGO ^^^
“K’il Kun Xidgwangs Daanaay” translates to “We failed develop wheel.”
Double Bingo!
I don’t think it’s so much the stone age, it’s to honour their existence there. But then again, this might not be a good name in a society where English speakers should be able to say it, too, without a primer.
Vert de Ferk! Make it stop. I’m so sick of this sh**
Doesn’t matter to me…..I’ll never use it.
They can fly in and out on traditional First Nations airplanes.
stone thunderbirds
And traditional boats.
I looked up this airport in the CFS: one 5000ft runway, the only available fuel is Jet-A, no 100ll.
It will be amusing to hear the radio traffic. All calls are necessarily terse; calling Sandspit Tower is quick and easy, calling Zxbdgryi’ghrmkyt Vgsdrkltwymit tower, not so much.
I’m a pilot and this can really make things tough.
Dang fools. None of them are pilots I bet
I suspect pilots will continue to call Sandspit Tower, and to perdition with the “official” name.
Since I am based at CYKF, I don’t expect to be flying there anytime soon.
Nor have they had an original productive thought or contributed anything to society. Ever.
Worthless parasites.
mhb23re
Biden calls it accurately on a daily basis. /sarc
Why is it with all of these pandering paloozas I’m reminded of Serak the Preparer… “To pronounce it correctly, I’ll have to pull out your tongue.”
good thing it wasnt the Welsh
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
““Engaging in initiatives like this fosters trust and respect, critical elements in renewing the collective vision of Canada as a nation that includes all of us.”
No. It does the opposite: breaks down trust and respect, of which there was little to begin with.
It’s way past time for Canada to abolish the Indian Act.
And yet, they still want to be called the “Haida Nation”
I like to remind Liberal voters that Jen Chretien authored the 1980 White Paper.
This 1980 White Paper????
The 1969 White Paper (officially entitled Statement of the Government of Canada on Indian Policy) was a policy paper proposal set forth by the Government of Canada related to First Nations. Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau and his Minister of Indian Affairs, Jean Chrétien, issued the paper in 1969. The White Paper proposed to abolish all legal documents that had previously existed, including (but not limited to) the Indian Act, and all existing treaties within Canada, comprising Canadian Aboriginal law. It proposed to assimilate First Nations as an ethnic group equal to other Canadian citizens. The White Paper was met with widespread criticism and activism, causing the proposal to be officially withdrawn in 1970.
Yes, how can we live in poverty when we have an airport named after us?.. Insult to injury :).. The weakness appeasement game is a bottomless pit..
They are activists and they will never go home until you are dead and gone..
Pilots will still call it Sandspit. The international language of aviation ,and for that matter business, is the much reviled in Canada, English.
I wondered why so many “native” names include the number 7 within the name. Apparently it is a “glottal stop”.
I’ve also seen exclamation marks within a name as well, can’t be bothered to look up what that means.
If the idea here is to create divisiveness , it works.
Given that their mythology is that they transitioned from Ravens, their language(s) remind me of imitations of the clucking of Ravens. In any event the more unpronounceable the letters, the greater the big FU to the hated whites whose useful idiots implementing all the name changes are the perfectly nurtured white guilt automatons. QCI used to host a productive and busy logging economy which, now mostly under Indian rule is squandered and a mere shadow of it’s growing potential, where the rest of BC is headed under the NDP.
Oh come now John, these guys are not just dumb clucks! The Haida are cultured people. I especially like their rousing anthem: “Haida Gwai that builds the boat, and Haida Gwai that sails her! Haida Gwai that catches the fish, and fetches ’em home to Liza!”
On Calgary Transit, if the bus driver clears his throat while letting off passengers, that’s called a “glottal stop”.
The irony of that ditty is wonderful given it is from the Rock where the pre-Canadian Newfs killed all the local Indians whereas the Haida were at the top of the food chain when it came to conquest and slave taking on the west coast, likely why they resented the Europeans (to this day) coming along and ending all their fun.
I am Groot!
I think the ! is meant to be a ‘click’ sound. At least, that’s how I think it’s done in !Xhosa (?) In southern Africa.
I may be wrong, however.
Hey Denise, you gots sumting against us’n dyslexics?
Hawkins
Einstein
Tesla
Wright Bros
Bell
Bronson
da Vinci
JFK
Trump
Newton
To name a few
Meh.
when the “official” name is un-pronouncible,I will use my own label.
“Shitholia” being the first choice.
Followed by a random number.
When are we going to rename Ottawa?
To Deep shithole were public wealth is stolen…
Oh right “Ottawa” already means that.
Wherethefugarewe?
Vert der Verk!
No matter what, it’s still the QUEEN CHARLOTTE ISLANDS, the STRAIT OF GEORGIA and BRITISH COLUMBIA.
The socialists and natives can GFY, I will not comply!
Ah c’mon man, put on the turbany sombrero thingy. Pull up a stump, chill with a cold one. Ol Jim Crow here ta tell ya like it is. Gimme afiver eh. Ya can call it what ya want just don’t put a sign up in engrish. Fwench in kaybec is aok. Elsewheres its up for grabs. Until dere’s more mooses den us, like.
OK Fed
Just messin wit ya, 22 minutes like.
Traditions are fine, until somebody efs em up. Then Archie Bunker wakes up.
DEI will succumb to its deserved DOA. Big ole wheel keep on turnin’.
Exactly. I don’t recall ever being given a vote on those name changes.
Spoiler: there’s no such place as the “Great Bear Rainforest”, either.
Oh, you want the Great Rain Bearforest, it’s down that way…
I went to: https://glosbe.com/hai/en/K'il%20Kun%20Xidgwangs%20Daanaay
to see if there was a translation yet, and there wasn’t one…
if you were to make mischief you could add on, say “White Man’s Flying Sandspit” and see how long it takes to be adopted
Just call it “kill kun airport.” If anyone objects just point out that it means sandspit in the native language. It’s not like they’re going to actually know.
The best part…….. It’s only going to get more entertaining. 🙂
I like it. The natives are just pulling our white weenies at this point. They must be laughing their arses off.
It’s not only immoral to let a sucker keep his money, it’s immoral to let him keep his dignity, and our “elites” are suckers and our largely leftist voters are even bigger suckers.
Faux language from a faux nation of nasty people who didn’t read or write and who would enslave you and/or torture and kill you.
News flash, slavery, torture, and murder were/are practiced by every nation, everywhere across the globe. It just that some figured out it was wrong before others did. You can thank the word of the Living God for that. It’s also not that long ago one could get through life without needing to read or write in the “white man’s world” and many did. All of the original Toronto subway stations were built to look distinct so the illiterates could navigate the lines, and the stations were not built that long ago.
There is no written language for Indians so they just make it up as they go.
Karl Marx Airport would be more appropriate.
Theres the Queen Charlotte Islands and then there is some anti English tribal bullshit meant to foster hatred and division disguised as a virtuous act.
First they change the name. Then they change the ownership. Then you rent the space. Then they kick you out.
TFW you try to request for permission to land but wind up summoning Cthulhu instead.
“TFW you try to request for permission to land but wind up summoning Cthulhu instead.”
LOL…
The renaming is getting tiresome and pointless. It is a trivial, pandering gesture that seems to make the authorities feel good, but it does nothing to address native issues in a meaningful way. The awkwardness of the names means people will not use the new name.
Why is the English language always expropriated? Where is there own? I’ve seen cave painting with some type of symbols.
The written Cree seem to use MS Wingdings for their font.
It’s happening in Winnipeg, the largest reserve in Canada, as well. Renaming roadways with names nobody can pronounce, let alone spell. When was their written language developed? My understanding of their history is the only reading and writing skills received was taught at residential schools and I’m sure the nuns weren’t well versed in Tonto tongue.
I have some sympathy for this particular renaming, particularly since the Canadian and B.C. governments have essentially ceded that the Queen Charlotte Islands are the the historic territory of the Haida people (who make up half or more of the population) and which is governed by the Haida Nation. Thus, they have been renamed some time ago as X̱aaydag̱a Gwaay. Is this any different from the town of Hull, Quebec being renamed Gatineau? In the last couple of years that I taught summer courses at the University of British Columbia Okanagan, the streets on campus were given Okanagan names replete with a combination of western letters and a series of marks (question marks, reverse question marks, and other impenetrable markings). At least at that time, they carried English names as well, presumably so the drivers of emergency vehicles could find their way to people in distress. I suppose that, too, is reasonable, given that the campus is, in fact, located on recognized Okanagan territory.
It probably made sense in the 1950s for Prime Minster Diefenbaker to offer the franchise and full citizenship to the indigenous peoples of Canada (not that many of them ever voted for him or succeeding Conservative leaders), but we now seem to accept that those peoples constitute over 50 First Nations that are regarded as “distinct societies”. Even this idea is complicated by the fact that almost 700 “First Nations Communities” do not accept that other communities of the same nation can speak for them.
It is also instructive to remember that while Pierre Trudeau staunchly resisted any “distinct society” status for Quebec, Justin Trudeau pronounced in his first government that the federal government would deal with the various indigenous peoples “on a nation-to-nation basis”. Today, in a substantial part of the country, 5% of the population of Canada holds a status even more favourable than was once accorded only to Quebec. So, it probably futile to complain about renaming streets or airports on territory that are effectively governed by indigenous chiefs and band councils. Far more concerning to me, is the growing fashion for overwhelmingly non-indigenous communities in Canada to accept this nonsense. The afternoon CBC radio host in Halifax (and many others of his tribe of self-loathing “Settlers”) regularly refers to the city as “Kjipuktuk”.
If they were actual “nations”, why would they need to exist on the taxpayers of the nation of Canada. Do the fat paychecks of the Chiefs come from the department of foreign Affairs or Indian Affairs? Our immigration every two years exceeds the entire Canadian population of Indians greater than 1/16 racial purity and yet they are distinct “nations” claiming all Canadian land? The Indian industry is as phony as the climate industry.
I wrote a song about the new name.
It goes like this :
HI ya hiya hiya hiya HI ya hiya hiya hiya.
That is heap big racist.
Quite the accomplishment for those with neither alphabet nor written word.
Trudeaumania – The Sequel
First Nations good. First Whites bad.
Traditional ways good. Traditional marriage bad.
Indigenous property rights good. Independent property rights bad.
Life Follows Art dept.
House of Games – Thank you sir
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mJk2i7Lfjs
Coming in hot
This destination is unlikely to attract many international flights. Short hops, mainly.
The cockpit and cabin crew will have to start flight announcements about the destination well before takeoff.
The pilots will have to make sure there’s extra fuel on board to do a few circles in a holding pattern while sorting out landing clearance.
Jesus Effin Christ!
It’s hard to fly a canoe.
Well, Edmonton renamed its Wards to indian names. Now nobody has a bloody clue what Ward there are in.
Who cares. I’m not going to any indian shithole.
Try that on the radio calling in to land
Try that on the radio calling in to land. Most of these fools can’t even pronounce “Patrick Roy”.
Well, in fairness, “Patrick Roy” is a damn sight harder than it looks.
Sandspit Airport is YZP to everyone in the airline business.