World War II – Why Did We Bother?

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Police in Brussels have stormed a right-wing conference attended by Nigel Farage and Suella Braverman after orders for the event to be shut down.

Local authorities ordered the controversial National Conservatism (NatCon) Conference to be closed to “guarantee public safety”.

Ms Braverman, the former home secretary, and Mr Farage, the former Ukip leader, were among the political names advertised to speak at the event on Tuesday alongside right-wing Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orban. […]

Emir Kir, [the son of Turkish immigrants] mayor of the area where the conference was held, said: “I issued an order from the mayor to ban the ‘National Conservatism Conference’ event to guarantee public safety.

Officers arrived after the event began at the Claridge venue in central Brussels to tell organisers the event would be shut down. According to a report on social media, police arrived while Mr Farage was addressing the event, giving attendees 15 minutes to leave the venue. However, officers did not appear to force the event to shut down and speeches continued.

Police have now said they will not let anyone else into the venue and people can leave and not re-enter.

Byline Jabed Ahmed.

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30 Replies to “World War II – Why Did We Bother?”

  1. We bought them a couple of generations to get their act together. And the price we paid for them was high. Too bad they didn’t learn anything.
    Time to let them sink or swim. They seem to be content sinking on their own. Let them drown. There should be no third rescue.

  2. Meanwhile in Canada, the leftist elite were summoned by the Governor General to gather and cheer on the Dear Leader’s draconian anti-free speech bill (Bill C-63). The police were not called to shut down this event, however.

    Why bother indeed:

    “Rideau Hall yesterday had no comment after Governor General Mary Simon personally hosted a conference in support of a bill before Parliament, C-63 An Act To Enact The Online Harms Act. The guest list was limited to Attorney General Arif Virani and supporters of internet regulation: “We discussed this and our Online Harms Act.” (OJ noted this earlier today)

    https://www.blacklocks.ca/apolitical-simon-likes-bill/

    1. Is that the one that featured Bonnie BS and Two-Bag Tam and other Covid criminals sniveling about the mean things people who lost jobs, homes, businesses, family members etc due to their vile actions, were saying about them online?

    2. It turns our that our half-white GG has been lobbying for censorship of the Internet for some time. Her recent symposium is simply her latest initiative to shut down free speech.

      “Governor General Mary Simon understands that with holding high office comes power. What she doesn’t understand is that this power is not to be used for political ends — for promoting contentious Liberal bills that are trying to be passed in Parliament, for example.

      Simon held a symposium at Rideau Hall this weekend, her latest move in a campaign against online hate that she’s led since last year. The topic of discussion? The collective pain felt by invitees under volleys of mean internet comments, which could soon come under federal regulation. In 2023, Simon closed the comments sections of her official social media accounts due to an “increase in abusive, misogynistic and racist engagement on social media and online platforms, including a greater number of violent threats.” Her office didn’t specify whether these were criminal in nature.”

      https://nationalpost.com/opinion/jamie-sarkonak-the-governor-general-wants-to-play-politics-but-not-at-her-own-risk

    3. The GG is supposed to be a brake on government tyranny, not a cheerleader of it.

    4. Has anyone looked at the “Charter’ and legal obligations and bouns of the Governor General?

      All probably been scrubbed by now.

  3. President Kennedy, 27 April, 1961, address to ANPA:

    No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary. I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.
    I not only could not stifle controversy among your readers — I welcome it. This Administration intends to be candid about its errors; for as a wise man once said: “An error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it.” We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors; and we expect you to point them out when we miss them.

    Wikipedia

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy

  4. I love the words used in the article, guaranteed to illicit imagery of a Nazi meeting and to put everyone there in the worst possible light. Despite the truth. Yellow journalism at its filthiest.

    1. Geez, just read the comments – what a lot of truly scary people out there. Have an alternative POV? You’re a Nazi or on Putin’s payroll. They’re in full agreement with censoring everything that counters their worldview.

      1. It’s depressing that the majority of humans prefer living in a totalitarian police state.

      2. Far Right! Far Right!! Farrrrrrr Riiiiiiight!!!!!!!! … the socialist Natzi’s spittle all over themselves.

        Yes. I don’t believe public school teachers should conceal their efforts to “transition” your daughter from a female into some ambiguous gender construct … and do it by filling her with hormones and full radical mastectomy. Go ahead … call me “Far Right”.

  5. Historically, “public safety” is one of the most often used bromides to justify assaults on civil liberties. Totalitarians have been particularly fond of it.

    1. The left … (see: ANTIFA, BLM, HAMAS protestors, et.al) … CREATE the violence … then blame it on the peaceful, law-abiding, conservatives.

  6. To the filthy stinking f**kn*ggets who are demanding my kids go fight Russia, to protect “freedom”:
    F.O.A.D.

    Here is why.

    1. Your kids and you belong in russia, eating feces with the rest of russians. Siberian savage.

  7. Stalin would be proud, the left would use the police to prevent people from voting against them if they could do so.

  8. “Look at me. I am the colonizer now.”

    Ah, don’t worry, importing millions of people from middle eastern dictatorships won’t adversely impact or overwrite your civilizational values. What are you, some kind of conspiracy theorist or something?

  9. Braverman and Farage are not as “radical” as most commenters on this site and they are now the persecuted enemies of the now captured leviathan state. The Spawn-Fuhrer is attempting the same here in broad daylight to clapping seals of his paid cheerleading media.

    1. The joke is that Farage and Braverman are only slightly ‘right’, but are willing to talk about forbidden topics and therefore lumped 8nvwith far right.

  10. Not “we” not “them”. “We” are having the same problems. Besides, why did “we” bother if the result did not last for millennia? When did it ever did? Why bother with anything then?

    The problem is the same all over the civilized world, it is out inability/unwillingness to be proud of our civilizational achievement and to throw a in the face of turd worlders while telling them that we are not going to apologize for introducing civilization to them and while keeping our borders locked with UnMes out.

  11. WW2: international commies got together to destroy national commies. Luckiest thing for the commies was Japan going full retard and attacking the US.

    1. Had Japan not attacked the US, the latter would have attacked Japan anyways.

      There were 35 B-17s in Manila prior to Pearl Harbor. To drop lollipops?

      Ever heard of plan JB 355?

      The secret plan to firebomb Japan before Pearl Harbor

      “The mission of the 2nd AVG, approved in July 1941, would be very different. Comprised of 50 American bombers and the appropriate crews, the 2nd AVG was to drop incendiary weapons on Japanese cities, like Tokyo, that were essential to Japan’s war production.

      “The attacks were tentatively scheduled for November.”

      https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/secret-plan-firebomb-japan/

  12. Why did we bother?
    W H O A yes!

    Long ago I came to feel that we should have had nothing to do with WW1 while in my mind WW2 still remained the “good war” fought by the allegedly “greatest generation”.
    Eventually I was persuaded by Pat Buchanan’s argument against entry into either world war. I saw a clip of him making this argument to a UK audience and man were they pissed.

    1. The objective of the Second World War was to “expand the frontiers of the USSR”, in the words of Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov.

      At American taxpayer expense. Lend-Lease to the Soviet Union amounted to $11.3 billion, or $180 billion in today’s currency.

      Hundreds of thousands of English speaking troops died in order to open a second front for the Communist Evil Empire.

    2. Well, the First World War started without any reference to Britain, Canada, or the US, and all of them could have sat it out. The British have often had to ask themselves whether it really was worth it to go to war for Belgium, but at the time it seemed both a necessary obligation and the right thing to do. The Americans didn’t have to go to war for the freedom of the seas, but they saw it as a vital interest. The Canadians only had to answer the question, “are we British?”, and the answer settled them on war. Every country has had to consider whether the results were worth it, and the answer isn’t always obvious.

      It’s a serious question whether Britain should have started the Second World War. God knows they accomplished little enough by declaring war against Hitler. Had they not done so, it’s very unlikely that Hitler would ever have attacked Scandinavia or the Low Countries, or even France. But what he would have done, and what would have happened in Britain and France had their governments failed to stand up to him, we will never know. Things likely would have been different, not necessarily better.

      The Americans stayed out as long as they could and were probably wise to do so. Once Japan and Hitler declared war on them, they had no choice. Theoretically, they could have sat tight and refused to engage. and obviously there wasn’t much the Axis could do to them at first. But this was a time when the Japanese and the Germans were both setting new limits on what was militarily possible, and the Americans were probably right to resign themselves to war. It’s hard to see how long they could have avoided it or how they’d have benefitted if they did.

      Again, all irrelevant to Canada, where the only question was “are we British?” and the answer, “Hell yes!”

  13. Fascism is an ideology of the Left. Like Socialism and Communism, it is just Totalitarianism with different window dressing. Totalitarianism can shift smoothly from one form to another to suit the conditions of the moment.

    While Western Civilization crushed the Nazis in Germany and the Fascists in Italy, we largely ignored the Socialists at home and rewarded those in the Soviet Union. Afterwards, we fostered Socialism in our institutions, as it was seen as benign or even beneficial.

    Now, we are seeing the ugly side of Leftism return. This will get out of control and we’ll be lucky to survive.

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