I, For One, Welcome Our New Self-Drawing Overlords

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“Adobe has just changed the terms for subscription applications like Photoshop. Nothing big, just a demand of unlimited use of everything you ever create, forever. Oh, and you’re locked out of your existing work until you agree.”

34 Replies to “I, For One, Welcome Our New Self-Drawing Overlords”

  1. Piracy of their SW is now pretty much a moral imperative.
    They won’t even let you close your account without agreeing to give them all your work.

  2. Coming next from Adobe, an AI image service with your artwork featured prominently. They weren’t making enough so they are going to kill the golden goose – you! And obliviate your copyright in perpetuity – you are superfluous to the process.

  3. Heh… I’ve been running a pirated copy of Adobe CS3 for a long time. No upgrades, no updates, no connection to Adobe. Still use Photoshop regularly and the old version does everything I want. Kiss my tuches, biatches.

    1. CS5. But it’s a legal copy for work. Used by a few of us under the same licence.

      Adobe is a sh1t company.

  4. Pirating their software is difficult because of the fact that it keeps “phoning home” all the time to check your license.

    Yes, yes, I know that you can find “interceptor utilities” that act like a man-in-the-middle and can spoof this activity, but fer cryin’ out loud, I just wanna use the applications I’ve actually paid for without having to constantly figure out ways to get around all of the theft and roadblocks they throw up.

    Adobe’s AI would be a hundred times more useful (and much faster and less energy-intensive!) if they’d get rid of the pre-processor that’s looking for the potentially “naughty words,” let the AI black box do its thing (whatever that is) and then get rid of the post-processor “porn filter” that scrutinizes the image and prevents transmitting it back to your desktop if it contains even the slightest hint of something that might conceivably possibly maybe OhMyGod show some skin (y’know, when you’re trying to correct a client’s plaque psoriasis over, say, a leg, ferinstance).

    If that’s too much to ask, they could always split the subscription model into multiple streams, one of which is the “I’ll give Adobe extra money if they stop trying to curate my prompts and generated contents like a frustrated 1880s Victorian schoolmarm.”

    Effing Adobe!

  5. This will lead to lawsuits. People working under NDAs cannot legally agree to this, and their work is being held hostage.

    1. Adobe doesn’t have the sharpest tools in the shed, but they’re definitely tools.

  6. I don’t think Ex Post Facto shuffling of a payment agreement is a good idea. Adobe is going to hurt themselves immensely. I can see it being applied on a going forward basis, but locking people out of their projects while simultaneously altering (what is essentially) a contract isn’t going to end well.

    This will get withdrawn as soon as the Professional Liability insurance carrier gets wind of it.

  7. ?
    what in gawds name is going on?
    l kinda suspected this would happen the more executable code is out there, the more businesses are going to use it for this kind of stuff.
    it just takes a lot of time to code and debug. l did it for about 3 years pre Y2K

    anyways SDA, Canaduh, world, GET USED TO IT.

  8. I’m not even working under an NDA with the models I’ve done studio work with, but the release I have them sign gives them worldwide perpetual license to use the images I make. I’m the only other entity that has that right.

    This is really gonna bugger up my agreements, ’cause Adobe could ultimately do anything with the images I’ve shot. I didn’t agree to that, nor did I warn my models that that could happen to their images.

  9. Tech companies have been doing this to employees for years. Anything you create or invent belongs to us. It’s not just software engineers. Warehouse workers sign the same agreements.

    1. Its one thing to be an employee. Its another thing altogether to be a user.

    2. No; anything you create on company time, with company resources or based on the company’s existing property belongs to them, as is only fair. A good friend of mine has spent the last twenty years advising Silicon Valley software engineers on how to set up “clean room” environments so they can work on their own personal projects without fear of breaching their NDAs.

      1. It depends on the contract. Some contracts say “…as an employee of…”
        The ownership of software developed by an employee is in no way connected to whether or not he signed an NDA.

  10. Years ago, when I heard they were going to a subscription model soon, I bought the latest desktop download version available of Adobe Creative Suite, installed it on my machine and ignored every subsequent plea to sign up for their cloud service.

    Feeling very good about that decision right about now.

    1. Same with hard copy of 6, full suite.

      Guess this might make my past hard copy library of full suite products more valuable. I have full suite versions of 4 and 5. All properly licensed and legal.

      I haven’t been getting any new SW plug in update news from Adobe since last August, though I haven’t missed them. Developers figuring out the bad news coming?

      I once caught a pile of shit from people at a party for dressing down an Adobe employee for not maintaining updates on owned versions after being offered free/discounted cloud accounts. I told them all that they were not to be trusted.

      I keep an old desktop computer running Window 7 just to be able to use some of older stuff.

  11. GIMP is your friend, as long as you can get over it’s high level or knowledge to make it work the way you want it to.

  12. Let me guess … all the graphics creativity HUMANS have produced will go to Adobe’s foray into AI. The MACHINES will have STOLEN our humanity … and feed it back to us as a bland vomiting up of disjointed images. Great. I can’t wait.

  13. They are going to have fun with businesses or agencies that use it to generate classified documents.

  14. Adobe’s desktop products were one of the most pirated SKUs from the very beginning of the desktop revolution.

    As with video games, it’s the people bragging about pirating Adobe’s Creative Suite that created this monster in the first place. What you’re seeing is the software equivalent of Target closing stores because they can’t stop the shoplifters.

    1. You’re full of it:
      ““Adobe drove record revenue of $19.41 billion in FY23 and 17 percent year-over-year EPS growth, with strong momentum across Creative Cloud, Document Cloud and Experience Cloud,” said Shantanu Narayen, chair and CEO, Adobe. “Adobe’s strategy, category leadership, ground-breaking innovation, exceptional talent and global customer base position us well for 2024 and beyond.””

      https://news.adobe.com/news/news-details/2023/Adobe-Reports-Record-Q4-and-Fiscal-2023-Revenue/default.aspx

      Shameless corporate shill says “Be nice to the billion dollar company!”

  15. Just so you all know, the CEO of Adobe, one Shantanu Narayen, is an “Agenda Contributor” of the WEF.

    1. A good Photoshop replacement is the GIMP.
      There are lots of good .pdf programs out there.
      As for the rest of that vile company’s products, I wouldn’t know.

  16. Related: Auto industry collecting driving data for insurance companies.
    After The New York Times revealed that General Motors was sharing driving behavior with LexisNexis, customers filed dozens of lawsuits and the carmaker ended its contract with the data broker. But data is still being collected from other automakers and it is still being collected from apps.

    https://x.com/nspector4/status/1800591451333779927?

  17. Which is why I never upgraded from PS5.5 They can kiss my hairy, unwashed backside.

  18. It seems that a Bill of software users Rights enacted by our government would overrule these user agreements. That is when we get a government not solely focused on our genitals

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