Jasper Fires

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Western Standard;

According to newly unearthed documents, the Liberal government was warned as early as 2017 that Jasper was a “tinderbox” waiting to explode but climate activists within the government refused to alter the “pristine environment.”

According to documents obtained by the Western Standard, the Jasper National Park Management Plan identified the mountain pine beetle as a major risk for wildfires as far back as July 22, 2016.

“Mountain pine beetle expansion in Jasper National Park and associated forest ‘may’ increase wildfire risk to values on neighbouring land,” said the plan.

In Jasper National Park alone, 1.1 million hectares were identified as at risk from an infestation that spread from British Columbia starting in 2006.

“The presence of a large number of dead and dying trees is thought to to increase the risk of wildfire in the national park and surrounding area and this has been partially supported by the observation that in 2017 in British Columbia about one-third of forest fires were occurring in the dead stands,” it said.

The Alberta Forest Service and Parks Canada approved a forest management plan but it was rejected by the Liberal government, documents show.

Via Mark Milke: I gave a speech to a conference sponsored by the Forestry Association of Alberta in Jasper about six years ago. This is exactly what they told me privately…

Flashback to Kelowna.

31 Replies to “Jasper Fires”

  2. Where is a copy of the plan? Who rejected it? Was a reason given?

    The cause hasn’t been found yet, so is it arson or carelessness? (there were no lightning strikes recorded in Alberta on July 21, 2024)

    Will anyone be held to account? (of course not, government is the name for things we do together to avoid accountability)

    1. Our Buck stops with Justin.

      He killed Jasper, a lifelong hatred of Alberta brought those “dark clouds on the horizon” during the Freedom Rally to fruition.

  3. In June I spent three weeks driving an RV in BC and Alberta including Banff and Jasper. We noticed entire mountain sides of standing dead trees and wondered why they weren’t being removed. If you send a dead tree to the mill you don’t have to cut a live one down, right?

    1. Al; the window for salvaging a dead tree for milling into lumber is relatively short, depending on species. The wood deteriorates over time…maybe three years(?).

  4. Proving once again that environmentalists are the biggest danger to the environment. They not only don’t understand a dam*ed thing, they’re literally proud of their utter ignorance. You want to save the environment? Compost environmentalists.

  5. Too Stupid to Log.
    Fail to alter a “pristine natural environment” and nature will eventually alter it for you. It’s a lesson learned hard, and soon forgotten.

  6. To be fair, Parks Canada is pretty busy fighting our colonial history at it’s sites.

  7. I grew up with the slash burns on the Island in the 70s. Usually occurred in the spring, sometimes late fall, you know, when the fire hazard was very low.
    Good forest practices, like this was abandoned in favour of environmentalism, and continued down the path of good intentions to where we are today.
    Indeed, all the fuel is now being left in the bush, abandoned as it were….
    When the Pine Beetle infestation hit BC in the 90s, there was a push to harvest the pine forests ASAP in order to utilize the value before the trees died. Once dead, the trees are only good for firewood. I would imagine that they are not harvested once dead, as trees of any economic size would shatter upon falling them, perhaps there are other reasons.
    Environmentalists reap what they sow. Satisfying their immediate need for gratification, while ignoring all and any unintended consequences. They just blame CLIMATE CHANGE!

    1. I was in the BCFS from 1971 to 1984. We had the spruce bark beetle infestation in the early ’80’s. The object of management then was to cut the attacked trees within three years max, as after that they were too dried out to make dimension lumber.
      I don’t know what the time line for usage of mountain pine beetle kill is, but it’s probably close to the spruce bark beetle.
      At the times the BCFS put the entire AAC for the PG forest region into the bark beetle attack area, the loggers took 15 years AAC in three years.
      The pundits said you could see the Bowron clearcut area from space, it was the world’s largest clearcut at the time.

      Quick action saved billions of dollars worth of timber, and a hell of a lot of jobs!

      Proper forest management has always been hindered by the environmentalists ever since the early ’70’s when they started to attain real political power and assholes like David Suzuki,Greenpeace, etc. jumped on the save the planet bandwagon.

      This year,Jasper, a few years back, Kelowna, next year there’ll be another like it. Greens have all the power now.

      1. Don when I look at the BC Wildfire Dashboard it shows me that some fires burning south of my location are too steep for ground crews. OK, so people are posting photos that show the fires blazing through cut blocks as well as the surrounding forest. I detect the stench of some bovine waste products.

      2. I remember the “Bowron clearcut from space” talking points and I always found it funny as with the satellite imagery available at the time, you could see every clearcut from space. Some of the clearcuts I layed out in the seventies on Vancouver Island are now being logged again.

      3. Dead spruce spruce needs to be logged within 2 or 3 years or it deteriorates beyond usefulness – it checks and the sap wood rots. Drying does not make it useless for lumber. But dead pine can last 15 – 20 years and still be useable.

        The Bowron is not now, nor has it ever been the largest clear cut in the world. For example, the Fraser Valley – lower mainland including the city of Vancouver was once all heavily forested. That’s a much bigger clear cut, the difference being the Bowron was re-planted.

    2. DanBC, dead timber is quite useable for lumber. They’re still logging dead beetle-killed pine in BC. And no, it doesn’t shatter when it hits the ground unless it’s quite rotten.

  9. Urban whiners and paid NGO lobbyists determine forest policies on public land as politicians avoid principles and honesty is the handicap of the unelectable. The politically correct style of forest management in Parks is “stand and stare” forest management. In publicly owned so-called working forests it isn’t that much different as every species and interest group increasingly trumps silviculture geared to proper timber management. Does anyone wonder why the catastrophic forest fires rarely happen on private forests?

  10. Twitter is alight with Lib proxies desperately trying to blame Smith and/Climate change

    1. That about sums up everything that ends in -Ism, it’s a means of control placed upon you by people that can’t control themselves…

  13. ‘rejected by Liberals’ well duh, *where was the plan for?? ah, *ALBERTA* and not queerbec, therefore . . . . . . * . . . . . (l get it now!)

  14. I worked with the MOF in BC in Initial Attack from the late 70’s until 1990 and kept in contact with the people for many years afterwards. At some point perhaps 20 years ago the MOF was cut out of firefighting efforts and the glorious BCWFS took over. Now, since I haven’t been in the saddle so to speak since 1990 I have had to rely on reports from those still working with the MOF, who as mentioned are no longer on fires.

    Not only are MOF staff not on fires but they are not allowed to touch a fire as this is now the preserve of the experts at BCWFS. OK, so that cuts into the available bodies for fire fighting, but it gets better since loggers and other allied groups are also banned from fires. I’ve heard from several folks that if you don’t have the correct credentials you are liable to a $100,000 fine for daring to endanger the lives of emergency personnel by attempting to help out.
    I spoke to the son of a gentleman who owns a house on Shuswap Lake and last summer he refused to leave his home since he had fire pumps and knew how to use them and boats at the ready in case of needing to escape. He was threatened with a million dollar fine for disobeying the evacuation order but he didn’t back down. He and his neighbours saved their properties but if they headed into town for supplies the RCMP would not let them back. So they organized supplies by boat which apparently led to RCMP boat patrols to catch the scofflaws. In any event the weather cooled and homes were saved. Did BCWFS and the government learn anything? Not that I can tell.

    As for Alberta I am guessing that the same madness has infected the forest fire battle there. It seems to me that they have evacuation orders that leave farmers and home owners without any means to look after livestock and property and this is all in the name of public safety. I could go on but you get the idea.

    1. in stanley park where an infestation had been located.
      then it spread to the rest of the province.
      gawd gawd gawd leftists are so fcuking DUMB, the only ones DUMBER are the ones voting for them demanding insanity.

      1. can someone some time somewhere somehow
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        1. hmmm? ‘the whole is greater than the sum of its parts’
          how about start with that?

  17. Rope is cheap
    Knots are free
    Trees are everywhere
    Except Jasper
    Do the world a favor, hang out with an environmentalist…

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